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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:59 PM
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More to say about Jupiter/Neptune/Chiron - it IS Barack Obama
I have watched this planetary stuff enough for many, many years.

Barack Obama IS the avatar of this energy and I do mean nationally AND world-wide
He is the representative of this NEW ERA OF HOPE.
It does NOT mean that he is a Holy man
It does not mean he was ordained by Rome or Michael the Archangel

It does mean he is the COLLECTIVE MANIFESTATION of what we need now.

It's really, that simple.

In this incredibly awsomely complex complicated world of astrology, some things are simple
The beauty of this archetypal language is that it all comes down to simplicity.

and this is one that is VIVIDLY CLEAR

These 3 planets have been FORMING since 11/4/08, see?

it does not mean effortless Shangrila
it does not mean Camelot or that mommy is going to come back and save us all with a magic binkie
it does not mean it will be painless
it does not mean the ressurection of JFK
it does not mean we won't have stress

it does mean it's the beginning of turning the corner and learning to treat each other the way we should have all along.
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:16 PM
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1. You're absolutely right...
"It does mean he is the COLLECTIVE MANIFESTATION of what we need now.

and I think we knew this when we elected him. Thanks for your posts--always full of such good information.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:23 PM
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2. Thank you Japple
He know he's the instrument. He is us. Thank you.

It is exciting (Jupiter)
It is healing our faith (Neptune)
It is healing all (Chiron)

it won't solve your lawn mower problem
it won't solve your problem with the IRS

it's much BIGGER
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:41 PM
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3. I like it! A lot!
But are you SURE we can't get one o' them there magic binkies?
:rofl:
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 06:04 PM
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4. Open wide
spin around 3 times
stick out your tongue
and wait and see :rofl:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:42 PM
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5. 2,997; 2,998; 2999, Wait! Did you only say spin
three times?

:rofl:

I'm waiting for my magic binky now too!

Weird, Mom's nickname as a kid was Binky.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 10:31 AM
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6. You JUST missed it
you quit too soon! I said THREE THOUSAND
Dang

pucker up
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 03:05 PM
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7. Interesting insights about this conjunction, politics and Aquarius
Edited on Wed May-27-09 03:41 PM by Dover
I ran across this article about the current conjunction of Nep/Jup/Chiron in Aquarius and though it's a bit rambling it hits on some very interesting aspects of potential meanings for this conjunction.
A few weeks ago I had posted an article by an astrologer who also linked this conjunction to a generation who had their natal Pluto in late Leo (which this conjunction opposes). Well, the author of this article reminded me that many of that same generation also were born with Chiron in Aquarius, so they are also experiencing a Chiron return during this time.
So anyway, here is an excerpt about some aspects of Aquarius relative to political types that often gets overlooked:


Misconceptions about the Sign of Aquarius vs. Basic Astrological Fundamentals and Some Revealing Astrological Research

No matter how ubiquitous, basic astrological fundamentals and some important research tell us that Aquarius is NOT typically a progressive and enlightened consciousness. Yes, the Fifth Dimension got it wrong in their song. Aquarius, like Taurus, Scorpio and Leo, is a FIXED sign. These are signs associated with getting and holding power. Aquarius, a FIXED AIR sign wants to control “the air.” The Sun is here in midwinter in the northern hemisphere, when we control the air within by excluding the different air outside. We close the door when the air is right; we open the door when we want to change the air. Saturn is the traditional ruler of this sign, imposing boundaries, Uranus’ association with the sign is usually not so much about liberation and freedom as it is about creating controlled openings for change. Although Aquarius can be related to heating and air conditioning, “Air” astrologically is associated with mental and/or social control. In the early 1970s a Harvard Lampoon comedy recording, called (if I remember correctly) Radio Dinner, parodied a political protest rally. “Power to the correct people!” shouted out a voice. That, in my opinion, is the essence of Aquarius. Yes, some Aquarians want true democracy, but most only want “the right” people to decide, often oneself or one’s own choice(s).

For example, Dick Cheney is a Sun in Aquarius. When tasked to find the best Vice Presidential candidate, he chooses himself, and convinced others of the correctness of that choice. Although both FDR and Lincoln were considered progressive Aquarian Suns, they, like Cheney, imposed what they thought was best for the American public, trusting that people would back them up afterwards, rather than merely representing the wishes of the people sought before actions were taken. Note that Ronald Reagan and Dan Quayle were Aquarian Suns. In the early 1970s a Sun Sign survey, published in American Astrology magazine found that in a then far more liberal US Congress and Senate, the majority of liberals were Aries or Pisces, the most middle-of-the-road were, not surprisingly, Libra Sun Signs. However, the most “right” wing archconservatives were all Sun Sign Aquarius.

Right wing conservatives are not absolute true conservatives, but rather are conservative about some things, like racial equality and economic equity, but conveniently open to change if it suits their own interests.

Aquarians might seem to reference the past, but they are focused on who will control the future.

The glyph for Aquarius looks like parallel waves. Clue: Airwaves = Radio, TV and related mass media driven by technology and electricity (hence, including the internet). The issue of who controls the airwaves is completely an Aquarian issue. It’s no surprise that the implementation of mandatory digital TV will occur in February 2009 while the Sun is in Aquarius. Inner “planets” (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars) in Aquarius can give a personal interest in mass media. Jupiter or Saturn here can control or be controlled by the above board politics of mass media. Outer “planets” (Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) plus Chiron can consciously or unconsciously influence or be influenced by media, in different ways, depending upon the specific planet in question
...cont'd

http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2009/05/18/astrology-jupiter-chiron-neptune/


There was a PBS program about the life of Barrack Obama and one scene in particular stuck with me.
It was about his college days at Harvard and his rise to become president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review.
A black woman colleague/friend at the time (a liberal) is interviewed saying how perplexed she was that Obama spent so much time socially hanging out with the staunch conservatives, which he admitted to her was very stimulating even if he took exception to some of their ideas. And this woman was even more perplexed and hurt when Obama was selected as the first black man to become president of that review (due in large part to support from his conservative 'friends') and he chose several of these conservatives for important positions on the Law Review while choosing NOT to hire her.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:25 PM
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8. I wonder if this has anything to do with it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=93391&mesg_id=93391

(I just posted it, but would have probably posted it here rather than as a separate thread if I had remembered this thread's subject line.)

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