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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 06:07 AM
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Words spoken in funeral flag-folding draw flap
Words spoken in funeral flag-folding draw flap
The Associated Press
Posted : Friday Oct 26, 2007 11:38:39 EDT

RIVERSIDE, Calif. — Flag-folding recitations by Memorial Honor Detail volunteers are now banned at the nation’s 125 veterans graveyards because of a complaint about the ceremony at Riverside National Cemetery.

During thousands of military burials, the volunteers have folded the American flag 13 times and recited the significance of every fold to survivors.

The first fold represents life, the second a belief in eternal life, and so on.

The complaint revolved around the narration in the 11th fold, which celebrates Jewish war veterans and “glorifies the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.”

The National Cemetery Administration then decided to ban the entire recital at all national cemeteries. Details of the complaint weren’t disclosed.

Administration spokesman Mike Nacincik said the new policy outlined in a Sept. 27 memorandum is aimed at creating uniform services throughout the military graveyard system.


Rest of article at: http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/10/ap_flagfold_071026/
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 06:30 AM
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1. The National Cemetary Administration hates Jews? n/t
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 06:56 AM
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2. Why is this even an issue?
Oh those poor down trodden christians, always on the dirty end of the stick.
No one respects them. Everybody besmirches their good name and works. Ahhh... :nopity:

This is stupid. Why does it seem like all it takes is one person to complain about something and suddenly you can't do whatever anymore?
I think a better solution would be to do or not to do on a case by case basis. But then that would make sense and we can't be having too much of that now can we.
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NYVet Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 09:27 AM
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3. Some claification of your comment requested please.
Could you clarify what you mean when you say
"Oh those poor down trodden christians, always on the dirty end of the stick."

The reason I ask is because, as a Christian, I believe in the same god of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob as is referenced in the ceremony, and I was wondering what you meant by that comment.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 10:32 AM
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4. What other group would have a problem with:
"The complaint revolved around the narration in the 11th fold, which celebrates Jewish war veterans and “glorifies the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.”

and not any of the others?
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NYVet Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 07:58 PM
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5. Buddists, Hindus, Muslims, Wiccans...
Those are just a couple of the groups that may have a problem with the ceremony.

When I read the article, it said that the complaint was made by an unnamed person. As I said, I am a Christian, and I have zero problem with the Jewish faith.

I don't see the leap that took you from unnamed person to a Christian that made the complaint.
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