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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:41 PM
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Does this name ring a bell for anyone
Juliet Eilperin a Washington Post correspondent, who dicusses enviroment and politics.

She was just on Al Franken, saying that Barack Obama just did a huge rally and he and he brought up global warming which has hardly been mentioned during this election. Puhleeeze.

Then good old Al asked her about the Kerry blotched joke and the bitch said that not really and that he wasn't making an impact on the trail anyway and wasn't drawing the crowds. Then good old Al goes right into Barack Obama and how good are his chances for '08, well you know the answer, same as all the other pundits.

:argh:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:46 PM
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1. She lied about him on the campaign trail in '04
Kerry, who has participated in virtually every major international climate negotiation, now says that it is too late to join Kyoto, which takes effect in 2008. He says he would restart international talks and push for legislation establishing a pollution-credit-trading system to cap domestic carbon-dioxide emissions.

Bush's quest to produce energy on public lands puts him at odds with Kerry as well: For the past two years, Kerry helped lead the Senate fight against drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, which the president supports. Bush has also approved about 70 percent more drilling permits on public lands during the first three years of his administration than Bill Clinton did during the preceding three years.

Sierra Club Executive Director Carl Pope said with this energy strategy, in addition to decisions to ease development on some wetlands and allow logging in national forests, the Bush administration had stripped environmental protections from tens of millions of acres of public land.

"Every president has left more of America's landscape protected than they inherited," Pope said. "Bush has gone in the opposite direction."

Both James L. Connaughton, who chairs the White House Council on Environmental Quality, and William O'Keefe, president of the conservative George C. Marshall Institute, said Kerry takes extreme positions on environmental issues. O'Keefe said Kerry is "always pushing standards or goals without regard to costs or consequence," while Bush "tends to strike a balance between the benefits and costs and consequences of going forward."


10/27/04 WaPo
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:50 PM
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2. this needs a reply
Good God. Kerry is decades ahead of everyone else on this. For someone who's a self-professed environmental writer, this is in the category of criminal negligence or even more criminally, willful misrepresentation. Judging f rom a quick scan on google, she seems to me making quite the rounds lately, too, so for SURE she shouldn't get away with continuing to repeat that kind of s_____in other places. I/we could write her at the Post, but it would also be good to yell at Al Franken. If you know of any mechanism for seeing actual transcripts or audio replay of broadcasts, and ot replying to Franken/Air America or whatever, please pass it on. If you can remember specific time, that would also be helpful. WHY WON"T PEOPLE GIVE THIS MAN THE CREDIT HE DESERVES?!:nuke:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:12 PM
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3. I do not know if Obama brought up global warming, but her comment is correct.
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 02:14 PM by Mass
Global warming is not a major subject of this election (and, yes, Kerry probably mentionned it once or twice, but the subject of this election was Iraq, not global warming).

For the rest, we are back in the Washington insider talks. Not sure why we even bother. And it is true Kerry did not try to make huge rallyes. He is better at convincing people in smaller venues, so what?
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:35 PM
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7. But
she said it as if Obama was the only one who brought it up. I know its not the main issue of this election, it is just the petty nontruths that get to me.

Why we bother? Sorry but that hit me wrong.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:40 PM
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8. How would she know? She is not following Kerry.
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 02:41 PM by Mass
I am done being upset by these types of pettiness. There is a much bigger problem in the media and this is just a symptom. I'd like to see the Democrats address the larger symptom and not follow the media diktat. This type of attacks will touch anybody who does not follow the script if it is not addressed.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 03:40 PM
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11. It's big here
Maybe it's a regional thing and that's why I hear more about environmental issues. I never really thought of it before. But they're actually using global warming in campaign ads for governor here. When I compared Dean's supposed great environmental record with what we consider environmentalism, I realized there might be a bit of disconnect on the whole thing. So maybe that's the difference.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:23 PM
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4. Rangel at it. Sometimes, you wonder what it is with Democrats.
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 02:24 PM by Mass
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,227746,00.html

GIBSON: I have got to get your take on the Kerry thing. He's suddenly out of sight.

(LAUGHTER)

RANGEL: Thank God.

GIBSON: Been silent.

(LAUGHTER)

RANGEL: That's right. I went in my pockets: How much money you need to get out of town?

(LAUGHTER)

RANGEL: Use my credit card.

(LAUGHTER)

GIBSON: Is he a pariah now in your party?

RANGEL: No. It's not the first time he's said things that he wasn't exactly proud of.
But I really am more critical of the president using his dumb joke as a vehicle to work up and get the military angry. Now, we didn't have to polarize the military.

GIBSON: I don't think — you saw that thing that came from the Minnesota National Guard, that picture, that joke they made of him. The president didn't have to get those guys worked up.

RANGEL: I don't really think — listen, if I was in the military, I would have had the personality...

GIBSON: Which you were.

RANGEL: I would have done the same thing, too. You get someone that makes a dumb mistake, stick it to them.

But the president wasn't doing that. The president was polarizing and implying that Kerry was unpatriotic and deliberately attacked those people. And that wasn't so.

GIBSON: Charlie Rangel may be the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee.


Rangel is totally illogical:

1/ Make fun of Kerry. It is cheap and fashionable.

2/ Blame Bush.

3/ Say he would have done the same thing as Bush.


(and, of course, Rangel has never done anything controversial...).
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:32 PM
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6. Oh, they all have to jump on the hate Kerry bandwagon because it is
the in thing to do right now. I don't really take Rangel seriously, does anyone else. He is more of a flamboyant personality then he is a real policy maker and leader. Oh, and he is from NY, Hillary territory. Maybe he needs to read the NY Times.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:26 PM
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5. Can someone explain to me why Kerry is so lied about by the Press.
I just don't get it. Why lie about what he has done.

The comment is cute to, now that the dirty trick hasn't panned out as well as the Repubs had hoped, they now claim he made no difference while out campaigning for other candidates. Gee, I wonder why they even bothered to make a big deal out of all of this then. I want to apologize in advance to the founders of the woman's movement for what I am thinking about this woman but I can't help it- Bitch.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:53 PM
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9. I think it all goes back to
1.) Vietnam
2.) BCCI
3.) Iran/Contra

He can't be bought, he tells the truth, and he is therefore to be feared, mocked, and loathed as much and as often as possible.

Hunter Thompson:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/6562575/fear_and_loathing_campaign_2004/

BULLETIN
KERRY WINS GONZO ENDORSMENT; DR. THOMPSON JOINS DEMOCRAT IN CALLING BUSH "THE SYPHILLIS PRESIDENT"

"Four more years of George Bush will be like four more years of syphilis," the famed author said yesterday at a hastily called press conference near his home in Woody Creek, Colorado. "Only a fool or a sucker would vote for a dangerous loser like Bush," Dr. Thompson warned. "He hates everything we stand for, and he knows we will vote against him in November."

Thompson, long known for the eerie accuracy of his political instincts, went on to denounce Ralph Nader as "a worthless Judas Goat with no moral compass."

"I endorsed John Kerry a long time ago," he said, "and I will do everything in my power, short of roaming the streets with a meat hammer, to help him be the next President of the United States."

*****

Which is true. I said all those things, and I will say them again. Of course I will vote for John Kerry. I have known him for thirty years as a good man with a brave heart -- which is more than even the president's friends will tell you about George W. Bush, who is also an old acquaintance from the white-knuckle days of yesteryear. He is hated all over the world, including large parts of Texas, and he is taking us all down with him...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 03:36 PM
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10. He tells the truth
Gads, the horror! But that's it in a nutshell. I've just been emailing whatever columnists that use the phrase 'troops in Iraq' and flat out calling the liars. They say he's a bad candidate when they're the ones lying about him and what he's done and what he says. :crazy:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 09:00 PM
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13. I agree - and it's no accident that the same list is why we trust him
Reading about the latter two in 2004, I almost had the feeling that he was a stealth reformer - with enough other credentials that he could win on those and then he would genuinely clean up the country and transform how we deal with other countries. Isn't it odd that a man whose goals are those we mouth is unacceptable because the power elite in reality never believed in them.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 03:42 PM
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12. Partly, Dems are telling the lie too
I really don't know what to do about that.

And like I always say - call me anything but cupcake!! (That's feminism, imo)
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