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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 11:40 PM
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Can this be for real? I just don't believe it!
Edited on Mon Nov-27-06 11:48 PM by wisteria
DURBIN Calls on Supporters to Support OBAMA

This is the original link.

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/index.htm


Durbin urges Obama to run for president
STANFORD, Calif. (CNN) -- Comparing Sen. Barack Obama's political skills to that of former President Bill Clinton, Sen. Richard Durbin called on his political supporters Monday to urge his fellow Illinoisan to run for the Democratic presidential nomination.

"In all my years in politics, I have only met one other person who connects with people as well as Barack does: former President Bill Clinton," Durbin, an influential player in Democratic politics, wrote in an email urging them to sign an on-line petition. "That says a lot about Barack's superior skills as a politician and a leader. I have complete confidence that Barack will be able to unite Americans across our country in support of a new agenda of hope."

A recent CNN poll shows that Obama enjoys strong support from Democrats for a possible presidential bid, but still trails President Clinton's wife, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-New York, by 18 percentage points.

Durbin, who is set to become the Senate Majority Whip in January, has created an on-line petition titled "Run, Barack, Run!" on his webpage for people to sign.

"Barack has said publicly that he is considering a run, and part of his consideration will doubtlessly include measuring the level of his support from Democrats across the country," Durbin wrote. "So let's show him how strong that support is."

In a statement to CNN, Obama's communications director Robert Gibbs noted the Illinois senator is considering a run.

"Senator Obama hasn't yet decided whether he will run for president, but he greatly appreciates Senator Durbin's support and counsel," Gibbs said.


-- CNN Political Editor Mark Preston
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 11:41 PM
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1. Do you have a link? n/t
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 11:41 PM
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2. what are you talking about ?
for President ? that's no surprise. they are from the same state and Durbin has said he wanted Obama to get into the race.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 11:43 PM
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3. Yes, sorry. It's below.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:00 AM
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4. Wow
I'm not surprised that Durbin is supporting Obama, because for months he has said that he would strongly support Obama's candidacy for president, but the "Run, Barack, Run!" petition is perhaps going a little too far . . .
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:06 AM
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5. I find this shocking. It seems to be playing favorites and is not
a very diplomatic move. I could only find Durbin's senate site and their was nothing about this on their.
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:08 AM
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6. Remember that EMK has already endorsed JK.
The petition may be a bit much, but I don't think this is too far out of the ordinary.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:13 AM
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8. I thought of that too, but EMK remarks were more courteous and
mentioned that he thought he would make a good president saying he would support him again. But, he also elaborated and said we have many fine candidates and I would certainly consider then also. EMK backing, just doesn't seem as all out as this one is. A petition and an e-mail? Come on, Kennedy never took it that far.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:16 AM
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10. Kennedy said he wont consider anyone else if JK runs
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:17 AM
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13. I'm not really up on petition etiquette, but
I'm not sure Senator Durbin is being discourteous in this case.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:10 AM
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7. there is nothing wrong with it , Kennedy would do the same for Kerry
the petition is kind of weird. but it's not inappropriate or anything.

the Senate sites can't be used for campaign purposes that's why you don't see anything on there.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:16 AM
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9. An e-mail sent to supporters with a petition? Kennedy never took it that far
I found no other sites for Durbin, so this must of just been an e-mail. I also found nothing on it on "Run Obama Run". Maybe I an wrong, I just thought this was way over the top.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:19 AM
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11. Kennedy did more than an email and petition when Kerry first ran in the Primary
Kennedy lost weight so he could be in good physical shape to get out there and support JK anyway he can. and he was always out there for him.

there is nothing unusual with homestate senators supporting the other if/when they run for president.

as for the petition to urge obama to run, i see it more as stupid rather than over the top.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:57 AM
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12. So what. Durbin likes Obama and he says so. Why does this bother you?
The petition idea is a bit weird and seems to show that Obama is not really ready to go, but except that, I am not sure what the issue is?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:20 AM
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15. His position in the new senate makes him more influential and
I just thought he would of remained neutral.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:24 AM
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16. among Primary voters, Ted Kennedy is much more influental than Durbin
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 02:26 AM by JI7
Durbin might be more influential in terms of Senate Business but we are discussing a Presidential Race here.

do you think Kennedy should stay out of the Primary because of his influence which comes with his family name ?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:26 AM
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18. He could determine how much support a candidate might receive
from fellow senators.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:28 AM
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19. Kennedy might be able to determine how much support
liberals give to whoever he supports so maybe KEnnedy should not support anyone?????
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:33 AM
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14. Not surprising, Durbin is to Obama as Kennedy is to Kerry
Of course Durbin is going to help Obama. I think if anything, he wants to help Obama get a VP spot by showing people how popular he is, because I highly doubt Obama will run for the top spot.

I don't see why this is a big deal.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:24 AM
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17. Well, I am sorry at this point that tI posted it. It just didn't seem appropriate
or someone in Durbin's position to be so outspoken in his support of Obama. I suppose they're isn't a big deal then. I will just drop it.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:13 AM
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20. exactly
Months and months ago --I'm thinking like 6-9 months ago, at least--I read that Durbin had been pushing Obama to check out presidential-run possibilities. I also think it may have to do with a favorite-son thing, who knows. In the meantime, my own son, who lives in Illinois and first put me onto Obama when he first started to run for senator in the primaries, way before Obama got nationally "famous"; my son supported Obama with enthusiasm fin senatorial primary and general election, but has cooled considerably on Obama in the last few months. He knew all about the sleezy real estate deal in Chicago, agreed it was small potatoes compared to W./Rove/Cheney and co., but still talked about it with distaste..Reviewing possible candidates over Tgiving, he was alarmed by thought of Hillary (does ANYone really support her? I've met several people who think she'll be the candidate, but no one who WANTS her to. .), said Obama doesn't yet have experience, but if he were the candidate , he'd "hold his nose" and vote for him, but clearly had lost his initial enthusiasm. I guessed that he thought some Obamamaniac friends of ours were naive.

I like Obama well enough , and agree he's a fantastic speaker (I heard his 2004 convention speech in the hall, and I was blown away at the time), but he has way way too little experience to be president, and he is way too untested even to be a serious candidate. The funny real estate deal: a sign his star has risen too far, too fast, and a warning to us as well as to him on how untested he really is. The suprisingly cautious, conservative voting record: think, guys, this is not the record of a real leader, at least not one I"m impressed with. And, while I'm not one of the Obamaniacs, I do think (or hope) that he fundamentally has enough intelligence and good sense, or at least his wife (who works in Chicago and has a pretty high-power job there) does , to see that a presidential run is very premature, and also potentially very disruptive of his family. If he does decide to go ahead, then, to me it will mean that the hype has gone to his head, and he really has lost his moorings. And that will become evident to more people over time.

I've gotten generally fed up with my fellow Dems lurching from one hearthrob of the month to the next. Come on, fellow Dems: have the confidence and spine to choose someone who's right for the job, and then SUPPORT him: don't keep looking for a Telegenic Messiah on a White Horse to come and rescue you from reality . I'm as frustrated at my fellow Dems these days as I am at MSM and Bushco. Maybe even more so, since I expect more of them than I do of the media and the Repugs. Sometimes my fellow Dems just strike me as silly.

I caught a bit of Hardball last night-- near the end, Tony Blankley was talking. His picture of Obama pretty much mirrored my own thoughts. It's a strange world indeed when I find myself agreeing with people like Tony Blankley!! Maybe it's because the Repugs have some distance from the Dem field and aren't as emotionally involved as my pathetically insecure party. (I agree that some of the MSM treatment of Kerry is explained by the fact that someone of them are embarrassed to admit that they were wrong, about Kerry, about Iraq, and other issues of the day. There's also a junior-high pack-mentality peer-pressure thing going on, which is totally frustrating to me. Can't any of these guys think for themselves? or just THINK, already?)

Folks, this will all sort itself out. There's been a holiday break, most of political attention has been on Iraq disaster and on the new members of congress, no one knows what they're talking about --neither the Talking Heads, nor the voters-- as to 2008. (Remember how many pundits were totally wrong about how the 2008 primaries turned out? Talk about "toast": the MSM is t he group that should be toast! amazing that these gasbags still have their jobs!). Kerry will continue his good work in the Senate, and will resume his wonderful speeches again,and he will start to hit some well-chosen talk shows and blow people away, and , with help from us, from the thinking and/or gutsy members of the media, and his staff (please, JK staff, he does need some really effective PR here) . He will continue to sway voters one by one, just as he did in 2003-2004, in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Caroline, Nevada, and elsewhere.

I think that Hillary, Obama, Edwards, et al will seem much smaller as the winds of real life and real scrutiny begin to hit.
People voted sensibly in 2006, and it felt like , for once, they were voting on the issues.
The issues will be even more urgent in 2008 than they are now.


But, in the meantime, the voters and the MSM do need some help. As they say, nature abhors a vacuum. So, while people take their time to wake up and get serious, we've got to spread the word. Not just here on the Kerry forum, but in mentioning JK's qualities, and our support and admiration for him, to other blogs, to friends, coworkers, family, a bit at a time, a person at a time. WE'VE GOT TO BE THE MEDIA.

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