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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 04:18 AM
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I saw Richard Clarke speak tonight!
He came to campus and talked for about an hour. It was in a smallish lecture hall, and since we had arrived early, we were lucky enough to grab seats in the front row. He spoke about terrorism and how to effectively combat the jihadists, the continued vulnerability of America to terrorist attacks, and the disastrous approaches the Bush Adminstration has taken to fighting terrorism, including alienating Arab sentiment and infringing on civil liberties at home. After the talk, I got my copy of "Against All Enemies" signed!

It's really late and my brain is shutting down, but I'll go into more details about what specifically he said tomorrow, if you guys are interested.
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Forever Free Donating Member (542 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 06:11 AM
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1. I'm so jealous!
I have his book, Against All Enemies. Its an EXCELLENT book. Everyone needs to read it. BTW where do you go to school WildEyed?
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 05:20 PM
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6. I haven't had a chance to read it yet
But it's now next on my list. I go to the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign - home to the #1 Illinois Fighting Illini basketball team! It was a great lecture - right now I'm in a hurry (stats exam tonight at 7, eek!) but I'll post more specific details of the talk later on.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:10 PM
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10. I know one of the library directors at your school
She also posts on DU, and she says that 90% of the library staff are liberals.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:16 PM
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12. Cool!
I've seen a few people from CU here, don't know any of them in "real life" (as it were) however.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 08:20 AM
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2. sounds good, i can't wait to hear more about it
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:46 AM
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3. Yes, don't hold back
Tell us everything.

I will give you a list:

US preparedness on future attacks. (That Atlantic Monthly article from Jan/Feb that was wicked frickin scary.)

What he thinks of Condi becoming SecofState. (Clarke called her incompetent.)

The fundamental ignorance and arrogance of this Admin. (They are still screwing up on the WOT.)

What about the situation in Syria, The Iraqi elections and the prospects for a US withdrawal. The state of the Iraqi army and their (laugh, laugh) troops. What about Abu Ghraib? Is that still causing the US problems in the ME? Has * done one thing right since he got elected? Just one?

Well, that is my starter list because my wonkiness cup floweth over. (Sorry. I will try and take my anti-wonk pills now and not bother decent hard-working college students anymore.)
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 12:56 PM
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4. I listened to Michael Scheuer on Wisconsin public radio today
("Anonymous", the former CIA agent). He says we are no safer today from terrorism, and in fact probably less safe--and wonders why the prez and everyone are diddling around talking about Social Security reform, when we are still in such danger of an attack. :eyes:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 04:07 PM
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5. Because we have a moral vacuum at the top
Edited on Wed Mar-09-05 04:35 PM by TayTay
I think that * and company know that the country is in danger of an attack and that this time people will question why we didn't act to prevent it in a more forceful way. The RW has no answer for that. There is no defense against giving Wyoming more money for Homeland Security than NYC on a per capita basis. None whatsoever.

So these immoral Rethugs are grabbing what cash and benefits they can while they can. They are morally repugnant bastards. They are taking care of themselves and their rich friend now, because they can. This bankruptcy bill is a piece of shit. Everyone knows it. But it will pass because the Rethugs are immune to moral arguments and to appeals to compassion. They just don't care about the people.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 05:21 PM
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7. I will address these in due time
When school isn't attacking me so. Perhaps tonight I can provide a better recap.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 08:52 PM
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8. I love that man. It kills me how the really great US heroes are being torn
down with lies by the Bush coverup artists and the complicity of the media.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 07:10 PM
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9. Okay more details
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 07:13 PM by WildEyedLiberal
First, he spoke about how the United States needs to respond to terrorism more effectively. He explained that there are four concentric circles; the smallest and innermost being al-Qaeda, followed by jihadists of all stripes who wish to attack Americans or Westerners; then, a larger circle of those who support jihadists and sympathize with them but do not actually pick up arms to fight; and lastly, the Muslim world as a whole. He stressed how critical it is for America and the West to win the "war of ideas" and reach the two largest circles, so that support for the two smallest (actual terrorists) will wane and the Muslim people as a whole will be more receptive to helping us capture or kill the jihadists.

He also spoke (and this was very chilling) about how we have NOT made the world safer through the war on terror, and that in fact, the number of self-described jihadists has risen; the recruitment for al-Qaeda has risen; the funding for terrorism has not abated; and the number of terrorist attacks and fatalies has increased since 9/11. Apparently, the "war on terra" and the "spread of democracy" from Bush's PNAC playbook actually are counterproductive. Who'd ever have thought?

Ever more disturbing, he talked about how the United States is still incredibly vulnerable to a terrorist attack. Despite the Bush Administration's arrogant reassurances that they have "kept us safe" since 9/11, given that it generally takes 3-5 years for al-Qaeda to plan an attack on that scale, the so-called lull means nothing. Apart from airline security, the United States is pathetically vulnerable to another attack. The train system is practically unguarded (even after the tragic bombing of commuter trains in Madrid a year ago tomorrow which killed hundreds of people); ports are largely uninspected; and chemical plants and large manufacturing centers have minimal, if any, security. He talked about the large amounts of highly-enriched uranium that are unaccounted for, and how just a small amount of it could be detonated with a conventional bomb (thus making a "dirty bomb") which would spread nuclear radiation and catastrophe to any major American city. Scary stuff.

He then talked briefly about the danger of suspending civil liberties at home in order to fight terrorism. He stressed the unconstitutionality of the Jose Padilla case (an American citizen who has been detained without an indictment for over two years) and Guantanemo, and of the Abu Ghraib crimes, and how this does nothing to help us fight terrorism, but instead is decaying the fabric of our society. Finally, at the end of the lecture, he explained why he named his book "against all enemies." He said that it was a line from the oath that military enlistees and government officials must swear upon entering office - they must swear to defend the U.S. Constitution - not the president or any other elected official - "against all enemies, foreign or domestic." The implication was clear, and he got a standing ovation. I liked it so much I decided to co-opt it into my sig line. Against all enemies, indeed.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:11 PM
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11. I wish BushCo had listened to Clarke n/t
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