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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:29 PM
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DSM: Worcester Telegram and Gazette
April boyd, from Sen. kerry's office was quoted as a response to a letter that Sen. Kennedy's office sent out on the Downing Street Minutes.: (Notes the emphasis on the safety of troops being part of the issue. Hmmmm.)

April Boyd, a spokeswoman for U.S. Sen. John F. Kerry, D-Mass., said, "This memo raises stunning issues here at home. Sen. Kerry raised this issue in New Bedford last week and believes it has serious implications not only for the intelligence our country has used in the past but also the intelligence we are currently relying on to protect our troops in Iraq and keep us safe here at home."

Three U.S. congressmen who represent Central Massachusetts - James P. McGovern of Worcester, Martin T. Meehan of Lowell and John W. Olver of Amherst - all Democrats, signed the congressional letter authored by U.S. Rep. John

Conyers Jr., D-Mich., a ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee.

Mr. Conyers referred to a May 1, Sunday London Times story that broke the news about the memo, which he said apparently confirmed that the United States and Great Britain secretly agreed to attack Iraq before Mr. Bush sought congressional authority.

The letter states in part, "If the disclosure is accurate, it raises troubling new questions regarding the legal justifications for the war as well as the integrity of your own administration."
Kennedy insists Bush lied on Iraq
Worcester Telegram & Gazette (MA), ALL, Sec. NEWS, p A1 06-09-2005
By Richard Nangle
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:42 PM
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1. I am still wondering if he intends to speak on that
I noticed that, except for Boxer on the Foreign Affairs Committee, nobody has put the question on record in the Senate.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:50 PM
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2. I think they are getting their ducks in a row
Tying this into the whole of the Iraq debacle is smart. Kerry spoke repeatedly about the problems with the intelligence and with it being ignored, deleted or altered during the campaign. Add the DSM in as a piece and stir.

(Wonder how they'll talk about this. Could be a good speech. And yes, i absolutely believe there will be at least one, if not more speeaches on this. He has to pick up that gauntlet now. And no, I don't think it's difficult to do, I think it's time consuming to get it done right.)
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 03:09 PM
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3. I'm glad my Congressman signed Conyers' letter
Yay, Marty! :yourock:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 04:43 PM
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4. Kerry is crazy like Gore - Standard columnist attacking Kerry in advance
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 04:46 PM by Mass
of the DSM speech
No surprise he prepares that carefully.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3829928&mesg_id=3829928&page=

John Kerry: The New Al Gore
www.cbsnews.com /(Weekly Standard) 6/10/05
This column was written by Daniel McKivergan.


"It's not easy for Senator John Kerry these days. Having failed to capture the White House and facing the likely prospect of getting steamrolled by Hillary Clinton for the 2008 Democratic presidential nod, Kerry has been doing all he can to stay on the national radar screen.

<snip>

He then wandered into cuckoo clock territory by bringing up the latest effort of administration critics to prove the president -- and presumably the British prime minister -- lied about Iraq.

Kerry told the audience he was puzzled as to why Americans and the major news media aren't more interested in the "Downing Street Memo," the leaked minutes from a July 23, 2002 cabinet meeting of Prime Minister Blair published in the Sunday Times of London shortly before British voters reelected him last month. A few days before Kerry's town hall comments, Hollywood activist Tim Robbins wondered the same thing on Chris Matthews's MSNBC show. Without the prompting of the host, he brought up the memo, saying, "there should be more discussion about the Downing Street memo and less about Newsweek."

<snip>

Of course, if the issue were really about "the truth" Kerry would have also told the town hall audience to keep in mind that, among other things, on July 23, 2002 "regime change" in Iraq had been the official government policy since 1998...


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/10/opinion/main700913.shtml
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 05:27 PM
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5. Kerry crazy?
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 05:30 PM by karynnj
Seems to me that enough people should remember Kerry was the wellspoken, intelligent, non-wired, calm one at the debates? I don't think I have seen even a small piece of footage where he looks wild eyed or is screaming

So, now it's crazy to say that Bush lied. What I think is crazy is that someone would think that Kerry wanting to stay on the NATIONAL radar screen chose a small MA newspaper to push the completely outrageus idea that it would be a good idea to investigate if Bush lied. (which he has done repeatedly)
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 05:39 PM
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6. At least, they recognized that Kerry has spoken about the DSM
and condemned the silence of the media.

More than some people on DU.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:33 PM
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7. whrrrrr, grrh, wrrrrh, the sound of the Rethug slander machine
gearing up. In utterly predicible, we've done this a thousand times before way, the Rethugs will:

1. Ridicule their opposition. (See all the wingnut commentators who attacked Al Gore last year as being, out of control, crazy, a wildman, etc.

2. Question their patriotism. (If they were right thinking Americans they would be with us, after all. Remember, every question raised feeds a terrorist.)

3. Attack them as hopelessly out-of-touch with average, hardworking, right-thinking Americans. (And nuts like Gore or Kerry can't possibly speak for regular 'muricans because they are elite and like lattes.)

4. Explain how dangerous it will be for the nation if this sort of thing catches on. (And it surely offends Jesus. Attacking right-thinking Christians is not something that real 'muricans ever do.

Same old, same old. Some things never change. What's next in the script?

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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:14 PM
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8. I know we're supposed to be LLL tonight,
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 08:14 PM by whometense
and I'm pretty tired of wonk right now - but I saw Chris Matthews interview Bill Moyers tonight on Hardball (I know, I know...I was cooking dinner...)

Cognitive dissonance sprayed all over my kitchen. Where does this end? I have to hope there's a point where it all turns around on them, but to me the media domination is the most terrifying of all the terrifying things they've done.

And just now I heard a furious Randi Rhodes talk about how Sensenbrenner shut down a House hearing on the Patriot Act because he didn't like what was being said. Actually told the stenographer to stop recording the meeting and told everyone to leave. This is not our country. Have the body snatchers invaded??
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:18 PM
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9. This is our country
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 08:30 PM by TayTay
and this is most defintiely our fight. (And it can feed all the LLL stuff. It's part of the soup and mystery of being fully human.)

The press stuff is horrifying. But I also see signs of people waking up. We just have to keep plugging.

Hey, I'm going to that big antiwar march being planned for late September in DC. Anybody else? I'll be in the section marked, "Middle-aged boring broads against the war." Anybody else going?

EDIT: We don't have to be anything tonight. But I need to be LLL. It's been a while and I am pissy as hell.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:21 PM
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10. I read about Sensenbrenner in GD
He's my Rep.--and what an old gas-bag he is. Fat Cat if there ever was one--I'd LOVE to see him defeated in 06.

So did Moyers manage to get any good points across, despite Tweedy?

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