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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 07:59 AM
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For GlobalVillage: Santorum is an idiot
This is starting to get good. Santorum really is as dumb as a bag of cold rocks, isn't he?

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/07/13/santorum_resolute_on_boston_rebuke/

Santorum resolute on Boston rebuke
Insists liberalism set stage for abuse
By Susan Milligan, Globe Staff | July 13, 2005

WASHINGTON -- Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, the third-ranking Republican in the Senate, refused yesterday to back off on his earlier statements connecting Boston's ''liberalism" with the Roman Catholic Church pedophile scandal, saying that the city's ''sexual license" and ''sexual freedom" nurtured an environment where sexual abuse would occur.

(SNIP)

US Representative Barney Frank, a Newton Democrat, called Santorum ''a jerk" and pointed out that the senator tried to use the levers of the federal government to block the removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube, an act that Santorum likened to ''execution." An autopsy found that Schiavo's brain was half the normal size and that she could not see anything.

''This is one of those people who claims to have had eye contact with a blind woman," Frank said.

Representative Martin T. Meehan, Democrat of Lowell, said, ''There's not much you can say about someone who claims to have read the Bible cover to cover and came away from it thinking it encourages hatred for fellow human beings."

David Wade, spokesman for Senator John F. Kerry, said, ''Sometimes you wonder whether Rick Santorum can possibly believe the radically wrong words that escape his mouth."


Okay, this looks like it could go several more rounds. Just wanted to let you know GV that My Senator is obviously prepared to go 15 rounds with yours. (And I mean this as a good thing. Cuz I know you dislike Santorum as much as I dislike Romney.) Again, I can't wait for Teresa to weigh in with some well-chosen words.

TayTay, signing off from the decadent, sinful, liberal and fun state of Massachusetts!


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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:54 AM
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1. Does it get any better than this?
You may have to revise your opinion of Santorum downwards. Is there anything even dumber than a sack of cold rocks??
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:56 AM
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2. Really, this is just too good
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 08:56 AM by TayTay
In a Battle of the Wits between Barney Frank and Rick Santorum, I gotta tell ya, it's Barney in a first-round knock-out. That guy is funny.

GV: ARe you loving this or what?
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:02 AM
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3. I have to add that it takes
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 09:02 AM by whometense
a really really big bag of rocks to make Mittens look statesmanlike. Brian McGrory:

I asked Mitt Romney about this. He's starting to hang out in this crowd, raising money for a conservative political action committee in Washington just last night.

His spokeswoman, Julie Teer, called back and said: ''What happened with the church sex abuse scandal was a tragedy, but it had nothing to do with geography or the culture of Boston. What we know now is that the sex abuse was occurring around the country and around the world. Boston was just the first to find out about it."
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:23 AM
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4. Go get him, JK.
Please! go 15 rounds with this nut. Soften him up good for Bob Casey.

:-)
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:15 AM
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5. Kennedy is on the floor asking for Santorum apology.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:35 PM
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6. GV & MH1: Just read and enjoy. Kennedy Smackdown
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 12:38 PM by TayTay
of Sen. Santorum. Wow! Uncle Ted just nailed him. (I take it back Uncle Ted. You are too a snappy dresser.)

"Rick Santorum owes an immediate apology to the tragic, long-suffering victims of sexual abuse and their families in Boston, in Massachusetts, in Pennsylvania and around this country. His outrageous and offensive comments - which he had the indecency to repeat yesterday - blamed the people of Boston for the depraved behavior of sick individuals who stole the innocence of children in the most horrible way imaginable."

Senator Santorum has shown a deep and callous insensitivity to the victims and their suffering in an apparent attempt to score political points with some of the most extreme members of the fringe right wing of his Party. Boston bashing might be in vogue with some Republicans, but Rick Santorum's statements are beyond the pale.

Three years ago, Senator Santorum said "While it is no excuse for this scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." When given an opportunity to apologize yesterday, he refused and instead restated these outrageous statements. The people of Boston are to blame for the clergy sexual abuse? That statement is irresponsible, insensitive and inexcusable. Rick Santorum should join all Americans in celebrating the accomplishments of the people of Boston.

Apparently Senator Santorum has never heard of the enormous contributions of our universities and industries to our quality of life, our economic strength, and our national security.

Harvard and MIT have produced 98 Nobel laureates whose work has made an enormous difference to America's strength.

Their graduates contribute to industries, to government, to our communities throughout the nation and the world. In fact, only a quarter of MIT's graduates remain in New England.

Their research keeps our nation secure. The Pentagon, the CIA, the military, the Energy Department, the Veterans Administration, all turn to MIT and Harvard for the technologies and strategies to protect our nation from those who would hurt us.

And their research into cancer, children's health, housing, community development, and so many issues continues to make an enormous difference to the well-being and health of our children and families.

More than a dozen current U.S. Senators were educated in Boston. Senator Frist was trained as a heart surgeon at Harvard Medical School. Senator Dole went to Harvard Law. Senator Alexander went to Harvard's School of Government. Surely, my honorable colleagues wouldn't go to a school that is somehow contributing to the downfall of America? No. They went to a worldwide leading institution to prepare them for incredible careers of service and leadership.

Senator Santorum's self righteousness also fails to take into account the enormous amount of good will the people of Boston demonstrate for the less fortunate.

They started the Massachusetts Childhood Hunger Initiative, working with leaders in 20 low-income communities to end hunger among our children.

Boston's Children's Hospital has been ranked first in the nation every year for the past decade in its care and concern for sick children.

The quality of life for Boston and its families is rated third in America. Massachusetts has the lowest divorce rate in the nation.

Massachusetts ranks in the top ten states in the nation when it comes to addressing the needs of at risk and vulnerable children, including our efforts to address low birth weight babies, teen homicides, high school dropout rates, and other challenges to our children. Pennsylvania does not rank in the top ten.

Boston gave birth to America's liberty. The values that sparked our Revolution continue to inspire Bostonians today - love of freedom, dedication to country, and concern for our fellow citizens.

The men and women of Boston have served honorably in our armed forces. They have fought and died for our country, so that their children might live in freedom and opportunity.

The abuse of children is a horrible perversion and a tragic crime, and I am proud that the good people of Boston and Massachusetts were leaders in coming forward, shedding light and demanding accountability for this devastating violation of children. Sadly, the sexual abuse of children is a problem throughout the world, and it is not confined in any way to members of the clergy or to one city or one town. Every state in the country has reported child sexual abuse, including Pennsylvania.

On behalf of all of the victims of abuse and the people of Boston and Massachusetts, I ask that he retract his unfounded statements and apologize. I think the families of Massachusetts were hurt just as much by this terrible tragedy as the families of Pennsylvania. Abuse against children is not a liberal or conservative issue. It's a horrific and unspeakable tragedy. Sadly, it happens in every state of this great nation - red states and blue states, in the north and in the south, in big cities and small. The victims of child sexual abuse have suffered enough already, and Senator Santorum should stop making a bad and very tragic situation worse."



Whew! Crystal Patterson posted this on DKos today.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 04:29 PM
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7. One of the Santorum quotes in the first link you posted was ...
"I was just saying that there's an attitude that is very open to sexual freedom that is more predominant" (in Boston).

That quote right there shows what an idiot the guy is - sexual abuse of children (no matter where it's done or who does it) really has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with the ABUSE OF POWER. That is something that Santorum, as a Republican should be very familiar with!
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:53 PM
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8. LOL, what a lovely surprise!!!
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 06:02 PM by globalvillage
I would like to extend my appreciation to the fabulous Senator Kennedy of the equally fabulous State of Massachusetts for his most excellent and liberal thrashing of the POS from PA who dares to claim the same title.
And of course to all of you for supporting the cause!
Just got home from work, where I did 'see' Teddy, but was not able to listen. I was quite curious, but simply unable to turn up the volume due to all that pesky work stuff.
This calls for a twofer.





:toast:

On edit, a big shout out to Barney Frank. Did JK have a statement as well, or just through Wade? Either way, I hear ya, John.

One for each of you.


:applause: :applause: :applause:

edit edit
Meehan, too. You Mass people rock!!!
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:23 PM
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10. Bob Kerrey came up with that slogan "Santorum is Latin..."
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 06:19 PM
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9. Could definately go a few rounds
As a matter of fact if anyone comes up with anything useful, PM me. Please.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:01 PM
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11. Here's another article blasting Sanitorium
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05195/537671.stm

Love it how this is getting into the MSM :)!

"When asked about his references to cultural decay and cultural liberalism, Santorum said, as he does in his controversial new book "It Takes a Family," that he believes one of the effects of the sexual revolution was to create "inhibition of limitations on sexual activity, which can lead to extremes and extremes which are very damaging and very hurtful."

OH - tell it to Gannon!:smoke:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:22 PM
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12. But what the hell does have to do with Boston?
Santorum can kiss my Masshole! What a POS.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:37 PM
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13. Now Tay Tay, don't talk about this good religious man like that
When talking about Santorum, POS is much too kind:P



I am watching c-span 2 right now, and he just voted against the Byrd ammendment. What a piece of work!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:06 PM
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14. I like your sig pic
Ban Rethug Marriage indeed. LOL!

And I will try and control myself.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:30 PM
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15. I wish I had some cahoonees (however you spell it)
meaning balls :)

I would just buy it and put it on my car. BUT I work with ALL repuglies. I get enough attitude when I read my Mother Jones mag in the breakroom:silly:
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:21 AM
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33. It's cojones. Secretary Albright, is that you?
:-)

Frankly, pirhana, I think you need something like "I love my country. It deserves better leadership!" on your car. That would close a few mouths.

In fact, I wish I'd said a variation of that when I was confronted while demonstrating outside a Tom DeLay fund-raiser. Oh, well. The answers always come to me a few hours later. :shrug:
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:18 PM
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16. Moral dilemma.
Santorum is doing a book signing around the corner from my office. It's at -- surprise, surprise -- the Catholic Information Center. I prefer the Newman bookstore myself -- much more liberal. :-)

Anyway, my dilemma is this: Do I grab an old copy of The Catholic Worker, roll it up, and administer it to Santorum's posterior?

For those of you who don't subscribe, The Catholic Worker is only slightly more lethal than the famous wet noodle. Flies would laugh and point if they were confronted with a rolled-up Catholic Worker.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 05:38 AM
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17. There's got to be something a bit heavier
you can use. I'm not suggesting you whack him with a bible or anything, but maybe a decent sized hymnal?
I expect there will be plenty of flies as well, his book is a piece of crap.
Go and get a book autographed for me. Tell him your name is Bob Casey. Seriously, I'll pay you if it says:

To Bob Casey-
You're welcome.
-Rick Santorum

:rofl:

Puuullllleeeeaaaasssseee!!!
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 06:19 AM
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19. Heh heh.
That would be good!

:rofl:
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 05:47 AM
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18. How about whacking him with a copy of the new
Harry Potter book? That's gotta have some heft to it and besides, it's "evil" don't ya know! Fundies (regardless of denomination) run screaming at its site.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 06:34 AM
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20. Harry Potter is EVIL.
He makes children read (GASP)
And think (OH NO!!!)
And use their imagination (MUST. STOP. POTTER.)

LOOK OUT! Something wicked this way comes...

Imagine. A big, thick book that the readers don't take literally. One that they can digest and find the underlying theme (good over evil) without parsing every word. Or simply enjoy for what it is...fiction.

Why are most 10 year old Harry Potter readers so much smarter than fundies? Because no one has yet taught them not to be. I feel for kids who aren't allowed to read Harry Potter. The idea that some of them are going to have to sneak it under the covers with a flashlight is more than a little sad.







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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 07:00 AM
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21. Formal Apology
I was hoping a true statement of apology would come from the ahole Senator from PA, but I guess that's too much to ask. So, I'll have to take a leadership role here, and apologize for him and for PA.

"To the 6.5 million residents of Massachusetts, let it be said that the residents of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania do hereby most sincerely apologize for the disgusting remarks made by 'Senator' Santorum regarding the Catholic church pedophilia scandal and directed, most inappropriately, at the good people of Boston, and furthermore, that we elected the jackass in the first place."

Wish I could do more.



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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 08:16 AM
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23. I may have jumped the gun here.
I see that Santorum did make a statement yesterday.

July 15, 2005
Quote of the Day
"I don't think Ted Kennedy lecturing me on the teachings of the church is something I'm going to take particularly seriously."

-- Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), quoted by the Harrisburg Patriot-News.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2005/07/15/quote_of_the_day.html


Apparently, Teddy called the jackass in advance, just to give him fair warning and allow him to apologize and avoid the verbal ass-whopping.

July 14, 2005
Kennedy Rips Santorum
"In a rare personal rebuke of a colleague," Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-MA) "lambasted" Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) "from the Senate floor yesterday, demanding an apology for the Pennsylvania Republican's online comments connecting Boston's 'liberalism' to the child sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic Church," the Boston Globe reports.

Kennedy called Santorum in advance, saying "It was his opportunity to apologize, and he refused."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2005/07/14/kennedy_rips_santorum.html



And I understand Mittens didn't call for an apology!!! Are they covering that little tid-bit on the local news? That loud noise you hear is Romney and Santorum's poll numbers crashing.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 06:30 PM
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26. Santorum is just permanently in jackass mode, I see.
I don't much like the national trend of being unapologetically asinine and obtuse and insensitive and self-absorbed...and regarding it as being resolute. Anyone with a reasonably functioning brain would have recognized Santorum's statement as a diabolical combination of self-righteouness, ignorance, and just plain mendacity. :grr:

Yeah, the HARRY POTTER BOOK, applied liberally to the Santorum tuchis, seems the right course of action...

BTW, I'm a Catholic, and the only time I've heard a priest talk about Harry Potter was from the pulpit, and he basically said they were tales of good versus evil.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:19 PM
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27. More of Santorum bashing Kennedy
Edited on Sat Jul-16-05 11:20 PM by MH1
I saw this on Arrive.net, from a group called Catholics for Faithful Citizenship. Not sure how important they are (I'm not Catholic myself) but it has another quote from Santorum bashing Kennedy:


http://press.arrivenet.com/pol/article.php/669307.html

"a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm”. – Rick Santorum on Boston “Fishers of Men”, 7/12/02 /Catholic Online

It is interesting that Mr. Santorum makes this statement as his alma mater Penn State is not known for its Conservative values, unless Joe Paterno’s Football playbook would be considered. Furthermore it is interesting to note the number of “Conservatives”, including President Bush, who graduated from schools in the area of this “political and cultural liberalism”.

"I am for proper formation, something I would challenge Sen. Kennedy to be for. Proper orthodox formation within the teachings of the Vatican. I don't think Sen. Kennedy would follow that very closely." - Rick Santorum 7-14-05

As Catholics for Faithful Citizenship we find this statement very suspect. Senator Santorum’s voting record on issues of importance to the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops is a dismal 40%. During the same 108th Congress, Senator Kennedy scored a 60% on the same Catholic issues, placing him in the top 5 of Catholic Senators. Senator Santorum’s record on Catholic issues thus far in the 109th Congress appears to be equally as dismal as evident by his recent vote in favor of CAFTA, a trade agreement that clearly is against the culture of life. He has also taken a pro death penalty position that is clearly in opposition to the Bishops Conference Campaign against the Death Penalty.


I tried to find an online version of the scorecard being referenced but was unsuccessful. This could be useful to help Casey, if we can substantiate it. Of course we know the record - but scorecards like this are convenient to point to.

Who are the other Senators in the top 5? Any chance one of them also hails from Massachusetts?

And, any one want to give the short version of what the heck he means by "proper formation"? I hope it's not too blasphemous to say that the phrase "missionary position" comes to mind... (surely showing I have no clue...)
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:50 PM
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28. From 'Catholics R Us' website
Edited on Sat Jul-16-05 11:51 PM by TayTay
320.24 Understanding of Catholic doctrine and belief and its historical development

- Ability to engage in faith formation based on Catholic doctrine.

- Ability to engage others in reflection and dialog on major issues related to Catholic identity and doctrine.


http://faithformation.charlottediocese.org/Catholic%20Doctrine%20in%20Theology9.htm

I lied. (Venial sin. Two 'Our Fathers', Three 'Hail Mary's' and a 'Glory Be' for me.) It's from the Charlotte diocese. Still, it's good.

Santorum hits Kennedy with a 'I'm more Catholic than you' uppercut. The lean, agile and dumb Senator from PA is dancing. He is using Kennedy's divorce and past wanton ways against him. He has Kennedy up against the ropes.

But the wily and round Senator from MA is not done yet. He responds with a hay-maker to Santorum's jaw. "The abuse of children is a horrible perversion and a tragic crime, and I am proud that the good people of Boston and Massachusetts were leaders in coming forward, shedding light and demanding accountability for this devastating violation of children. Sadly, the sexual abuse of children is a problem throughout the world, and it is not confined in any way to members of the clergy or to one city or one town. Every state in the country has reported child sexual abuse, including Pennsylvania."

Oh, Santorum is wounded. He's wobbling. Looks like he's trying to get back to his corner so he can tag his partner and send a fresh Catholic Rethug Senator into the ring. Kennedy goes back to his corner as well and tags his tag-team partner and Sen. Kerry steps into the ring.

How many more rounds will it go folks? Stay tuned.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:01 AM
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29. Is it just me,
or has anyone else detected a certain level of glee on the part of the two MA senators when it comes to this fight? Not too smart of Santorum to take this one on.

I was watching O Brother Where Art Thou earlier - how's this for a quote? "He's dumber than a sack of hammers."
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:04 AM
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30. I think that too
Ahm, I think Sen. Kennedy is having too much fun. And I think Sen. Kerry can go home and tell Teresa that he nailed the bastard. (And Teresa smiles her bet knowing smile.)

Yeah, they are having fun. Hel, I'm having fun with this and I'm on the sidelines.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:08 AM
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24. Oh, you are so sweet. Apology not needed, but gratefully acknowledged
I feel bad for the poor people of the Great and Noble Commonwealth of Pennsylvania who have to put up with this jackass. From the Mass end, this has been fun. Teeing off on Santorum is like a tonic to the soul and it's so damn easy. (Sinfully easy.)

I might have a gift for you later, just to show that I know (and the people of MA know) that this is a Santorum production, not a PA production. (PA voted for John Kerry. Message received.) I have a satire in mind that I want to write (that I will find funny, your mileage might vary) about how Santorum sees Massachusetts.

If I can find the time and avoid interruptions, I will write it for tomorrow. And sweetie, I love Pennsylvania, and I know that the good folks who live there are ill-served by this jackass. Again, I will contribute money to defeat him and I know my Jr Senator is going to contribute money to defeat that idiot.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:23 AM
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25. Oh, and let me add a "Thank You"
Good people of Massachusetts, let me just add a "thank you" to that apology.

Santorum, of course, misses the fact that the abuse happens all over the country -- in Red and Blue areas -- but it was in liberal Boston where we put a stop do it.

It was liberal Boston that caught these sick bastards and put a stop to the abuse of children by grown men.

That's right. The conservative areas of the country didn't put a stop to this. It was the liberals, those crazy permissive moral relativists, who stopped the preying on innocent children. The conservatives, those moral values voters, did not.

So, Senator Santorum, you are right. It is because of the liberal atmosphere of Boston that resulted in the Catholic Sex Scandal -- we would not let the abuse stand.

http://www.patridiots.com/001732.html
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 07:35 AM
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22. Maybe Santorum should move to Florida
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:27 AM
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31. Tom Oliphant's commentary on Santorum's idiotic statements
The apostle of bizarre insensitivity
By Thomas Oliphant, Globe Columnist | July 17, 2005

WASHINGTON

IN THE END, I've decided, after a decade of absurdities, Rick Santorum is not funny, just weird.

The Pennsylvania senator's latest outburst of cruel insensitivity -- imagining some tie between the ''culture" of Boston and the behavior of priest-rapists -- is garden variety demagoguery.

I'm glad he has been denounced and called to account by Senator Edward Kennedy and Representatives Ed Markey and Barney Frank, but I worry that the condemnation of Santorum's bizarre behavior may elevate his comments to a level of seriousness that is not merited.

(note from Rox - Why didn't he mention Kerry?)

--- snip ---

It is not even accurate to assert that Boston was the center of the child abuse horror. A demagogue feasting off headlines could be forgiven three years ago for equating headlines with deeper truth, but the fact is, as Kennedy put it, that this horrific scandal knew no state or ideological boundaries. Using a simple, clarifying concept -- priests accused as a percent of priests in the affected diocese -- the ''center" turns out to have been Covington, Ky. -- known to business travelers everywhere as the home of Cincinnati's airport. The percentage of accused priests there from 1950 on was 9.6 percent, compared to 7 percent in Boston.

Read the rest here: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/07/17/the_apostle_of_bizarre_insensitivity?mode=PF
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:07 AM
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32. For your reading pleasure: Philly columnist Tom Ferrick
So, Santorum, you don't say...

When it comes to U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum, you have to wonder about the Wacko Factor.

That's my name for that nagging suspicion among voters that an elected official is a little... well... wacky.

In politics, to be seen as a wacko is nearly always fatal. If it happens to Santorum in the 2006 election, my bet is that the coroner will rule it a suicide.

<snip>

"While it is no excuse for this scandal," Santorum wrote, "it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm."

Liberalism as a cause of sexual abuse by priests. Hmm.

Detective: Look, Father, we've got you nailed on this charge. Tell us, what made you do it?

Priest: I couldn't help myself! I was under the influence of Eleanor Roosevelt and Adlai Stevenson.


<snip>

Liberals favor "no-fault freedom," Santorum writes. In turn, this has led to "the debasement of women, mental illness, and an epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases, causing infertility, cancer, even death."

Say what?

As to the working-mother thing, Democrats were quick to note that it is easier to stay at home with the kids if your husband is a U.S. senator who makes $162,000 a year.

And I was helpfully pointed to several news articles from 2003 that reported that Karen Santorum had a job in the late 1990s. She was a $4,000-a-month consultant for BrabenderCox, an advertising firm run by John Brabender, who always has been the honcho behind Santorum's Senate elections. {emphasis added by MH}

"She helped us try to get accounts and often acted as our Washington representative," Brabender told UPI. "She was both a stay-at-home mom and a professional at the same time."

So there you have it. The best of both worlds.

<snip>

Santorum's people have a stock response to criticism of his wilder comments: Rick is an honest, bright guy who speaks his mind. So there.

I agree. Judging from his recent comments, I'd say that Rick Santorum has one of the finest minds of the 13th century.



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:52 AM
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34. MA delegation asks apologies to Santorum
http://kerry.senate.gov/v3/cfm/record.cfm?id=240731

MASSACHUSETTS CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION DEMANDS SANTORUM APOLOGY

Senator's Comment Blaming Massachusetts For Child Abuse Offensive

Washington, DC -- Below is a letter the 12 member Massachusetts Congressional Delegation wrote to Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum today, asking him to apologize for his suggestion that Massachusetts is to blame for the tragic child abuse scandal that has caused immeasurable pain to families in the Bay State, as similar scandals have for countless families in other states including Pennsylvania.

Dear Senator Santorum,

We are writing to request your immediate apology for your outrageous, erroneous and insensitive comments made about victims of abuse in our home state of Massachusetts and the excuses you made for unconscionable acts committed against children.

Three years ago you said, "While it is no excuse for this scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm," and on Tuesday you reinforced those comments. To place blame on the people of Massachusetts for the sexual abuse scandal is fundamentally wrong, and we believe you owe the people of our state an apology.

The victims of abuse have endured a long and painful process. This terrible tragedy has affected brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, friends and entire communities. It has hurt parishes where trust has been shattered. At a time when the victims and their families work to find peace and heal after suffering through this tragedy, your comments can only exacerbate their horrible pain and suffering.

We are deeply disturbed that you would offend Massachusetts by using an abuse scandal, one that has been mirrored in your state and in others, to score cheap political points with far right political groups. The exploitation of children is a tragic and perverse act, and the people of Massachusetts are working hard to bring the perpetrators to justice. Sadly, child abuse happens in cities large and small across our country, and your words are hurtful to victims everywhere.

We now urge you to apologize to the people of Massachusetts and set the record straight, so the people of the Commonwealth and abuse victims elsewhere, including those in Pennsylvania, will know that the responsibility for these heinous crimes rests only with the perpetrators themselves.

Sincerely,

Senator John F. Kerry Senator Edward M. Kennedy Congressman Edward J. Markey Congressman Barney Frank Congressman Richard E. Neal Congressman John Olver Congressman William D. Delahunt Congressman Marty Meehan Congressman John Tierney Congressman Michael P. Capuano Congressman James P. McGovern Congressman Stephen F. Lynch # # #
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 03:19 PM
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35. RNC holding summer meeting in Pittsburgh 8/4-8/6
Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 03:19 PM by MH1
I posted in the PA forum, hoping for some folks to organize a protest or three.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=175&topic_id=6317&mesg_id=6323

The committee, which has never held a summer meeting in Pittsburgh, selected the city partly because Democrats have made Santorum a target as he runs for re-election in 2006, RNC spokesman Aaron McLear told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.


Seems like a good time to be getting a message out about what this asshole is really about.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 03:33 PM
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36. You all should come visit.
Sounds like fun. Any ideas for signage?

I'M A WOMAN AND I WORK
GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT, RICK?
DEFEAT SANTORUM '06


PITTSBURGH AND BOSTON
TWO CITIES WITH ONE GOAL
DEFEAT SANTORUM '06


Help. I need creative ideas, here.

Thank you for posting this, MH1.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 03:39 PM
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37. Excellent.
I especially like the second one.

I'll see if I can come up with some. But you've got a great start on it. Did you see my leaflet idea on the other thread?

For a flyer title:

Rick Santorum:
Do you really know him?

Then a listing of some of his most wacko statements/actions.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 03:45 PM
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38. Good idea. That would be a pretty long list.
Wonder what billboards cost?

HEY!!!

:think:
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:42 AM
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39. Editorial in today's Post Gazette re Santorum/Boston
Editorial: Santorum and sin / After working mothers, the senator insults Boston

<snip>
Boston happens to be the cradle of the revolution that guaranteed Sen. Santorum the right to say the stupid things he does. It is also a city not unlike Pittsburgh. It has its harbor and we have our rivers, but it also heavily Catholic with, yes, lots of liberals, plenty of proud working-class inhabitants as well as high-tech innovators and academics at great institutions.

When the senator shoots his mouth off about Boston, he comes close to maligning Pittsburgh. It will be something to remember in 2006 when voters consider the fate of Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Embarrassment.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05199/539542.stm
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:02 PM
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40. Heh. No love for Santorum
in his "home" state? Bwahahaha.

I am not a nice person. I not only hope he loses; I hope his bid for reelection flames out in the most humiliating possible way.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:13 PM
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41. Wow! That was quite the smackdown
I'm glad you posted the link.

Mucho love from Bostonians (and Massholes in general) to Pittsburgh. This was a tremendous editorial.
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