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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:09 AM
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This guy's really starting to get to me.
I can't hold a candle to TayTay's loathing of Gerorge Allen, but I'm starting to get there.

The Carpetbagger has this frightening quote from U.S. News up:

Conservative Republicans are becoming increasingly convinced that Virginia Sen. George Allen will run for president in 2008 — and win. "He's got the right pedigree," says a longtime Bush adviser. "He's conservative, he's a former southern governor, and he's likable."

Another GOP sage notes that Allen's chairmanship of the National Republican Senatorial Committee gave him a chance to travel the nation and polish his stump speech. "People like him," the official says. "He's the one in the race who's got that Bush quality."


As Stephanie says, "Donde los YIKES."

I've decided to start a "How dumb is George Allen contest. Come and enter if you have a good one.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:13 PM
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1. Oh. My. Gawd! Senator Barfbag is in the lead for '08
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 12:34 PM by TayTay
I think I'm going to have a stroke. Okay, somebody needs to pull Gov Warner aside and ask him, pretty please with sugar on top, if he will abandon his long-shot bid for the Presidency in '08 and take on Sen. Barfbag. We cannot allow this loon, this insult to concept of human intelligence to get anywhere near the White House. (There must be a way to make the race palatable for Warner. Somebody must have something on Warner that could be used as a wedge. For God sake man, Bush was a disaster, Allen is a freaking clone, only, heaven help us, even dumber.

TayTay is going to go and bang her head against the wall for a few minutes so she can feel less pain than this post has engendered. (And I know, i have to face this possibility sooner or later, but it makes me nauseous.)

Has anyone else watched this clown in committee or on the talk shows?

Sunday, Aug 21st: Press Conference with Allen (and Hagel, but look at this moron's quote:

Q Senator, Senator Hagel made a comparison between Iraq and the Vietnam wars. Do you see any comparison, or do you have a comment on that?

SEN. ALLEN: I have a great deal of respect for Chuck, since he served in Vietnam. I don't see it as an apt comparison, as I said on the show. Vietnam, they had a North Vietnamese government. Their ideology -- there was an ideology; it was communism; not one that has proven to be very worthwhile, but nonetheless, they had an ideology, there was a motivation, they had a government.

"The terrorists in Iraq are either remnants of Saddam's regime, which repressed so many people, other than those favored few that were part of that -- you know, his cronies and thugs -- that that's not what anybody in Iraq wants to go back to."

"And then you have the al Qaeda terrorists, who hate everything that we stand for, the concept of equal rights for women, freedom of religion, freedom of expression, the way we dress, the music we listen to. All of that they hate. And the only government that they represented or was comparable to them was that Taliban regime, which, again, the people of Iraq are not going to want to go to. Even the Sunnis wouldn't want to go back to that. Clearly the Kurds and Shi'ites wouldn't, and even the Sunnis wouldn't want to go to that sort of regime. So it's a completely different situation as far as the forces of opposition that we're facing in Iraq as opposed to Vietnam."


What Allen said in the first SFRC hearing on Bolton about cnadidates he likes: "Now, Larry Eagleburger's comments deserve special consideration in this discussion. We often hear about a man being a football player's football player, or a woman is a woman's woman. Well, Larry Eagleburger is a foreign service officer's secretary of state. " What?????
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:23 PM
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2. Dumber than Bush, but I see him as more dangerous
if he gets the right crowd around him.

Bush is unable to deliver a speech and to speak without notes even if his life depends on it.

Allen, unfortunately, is very good if he has been given a script. He is able to speak naturally without seeming to read.

I am concerned that, as he is pretty much a blank slate and very malleable, some wizzard at the GOP decides he is the right man to carry the flag of all these particular interests. As long as he does not have to say more than talking points, he could be a very dangerous candidate.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:26 PM
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4. I totally agree,
since intelligence, thoughtfulness, and integrity do not seem to be part of the skill set required to be president.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:25 PM
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3. Sorry to be the bearer of such bad news,
but you know, watching the way the current GOP works, it makes a kind of twisted, sick sense that they would consider him a top prospect. He's as morally vacant as * and lies with equal impunity.

We need to do everything we can to take the bastard DOWN. I do wish Warner could be convinced to run against him.

Isn't is bizarre that a jerk who is considered a weak incumbent should at the same time be considered a top presidential prospect?? Move over, I need to go bang my head on the wall too.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:37 PM
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6. I understand. I just cannot stand the man
He thinks the insurgents in Iraq have a problem with us because of the way we dress and the music we listen to. I'm sorry, but, I just cannot abide this boob. (And I wish he wouldn't show up for SFRC hearings anymore. He cannot possibly construct a decent thought about foreign policy, it is beyond his limited mental capacity. He needs to stop before he strains something in his maw, er, head.)
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:27 PM
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5. And what the hell does this mean?
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 12:53 PM by TayTay
This man is not dealing from a full deck: This is from the second Bolton hearing in April, 2005.

ALLEN: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Bolton, a lot of this has gotten off onto this tangent of this speech. And I find it interesting, this fascination with the process of speech composition.

But I did like to have it somehow relevant to the major issues that you will address as ambassador to the United Nations. And I have a hard time determining how this has anything to do with advancing freedom and democracy.

Senator Dodd mentioned he agreed with all your statements -- your advocacy, your characterization. Maybe he doesn't like some of the adjectives. I like adjectives, and I like your adjectives as well, that you use.

But regardless, the issue is stopping proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. The issues are reducing Russian nuclear warheads, advancing freedom and of course efficiency and accountability at the United Nations.

And trying to figure out -- and I'm glad to hear that we're going to read all this testimony. And I hope it's done quickly, so that we're not off on too long of a detour off the main track here.

And I think that we shouldn't be slowing up a vote on a tangential issue at best."

What? Virginia, explain how this retard got to the Senate?

I mostly hate Allen because he is on two committees that Kerry is on and I have to listen to him attempt to compose a thought. It is such a painful and long process to observe. And I am partisan and think that Sen. Kerry is quite bright and asks good and thoughtful questions that are relevent to the actual topic of the committee hearing. And this low IQ moron, just annoys the shit out of me. Having him and KErry in thne same committee room asking questions is like looking at the difference between a Porsche and tricycle. No doubt both will get you somewhere, but one is undoubtedly better, faster and can take you to a further location.
Sigh!

If you don't find the following evidence that God has a sense of humor then you are not paying attention:

Subcommittee on Technology, Innovation, and Competitiveness
Senator John F. Kerry (D-MA), Ranking Member
Senator George Allen (R-VA)

One man belongs on this Commerce sub-committee. One man can't even spell any of the words of the committee name.

(Moe, Larry, the Cheese! I just have to accept that I have a George Allen problem. I will go out now, smell some flowers, watch a pretty landscape for a few minutes and get over it. Don't do this to me.)
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:54 PM
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7. He already flip-flopped !
When Cindy got down to Crawford he was on the news saying that Georgie should meet with her.

Then this weekend he was on one of the Sunday shows saying No, he shouldn't.

These repugs are not going to be able to live down any flip-flops after the way they used it against Kerry! Even when you listen to AAR, or KO, it is always with pleasure to point out their flip-flops.

"Payback is a mutha":evilgrin:
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:27 PM
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8. Nice catch.
Now all we need to do is keep up the drumbeat. He doesn't seem like one who will rattle as easily as Frist did.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:42 PM
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9. Seems like Sen. Allen would be a perfect choice
for the Rethug's next candidate. He has a famous father, he's not the brightest light on the Christmas tree so he could therefore be easily manipulated, he already has the smirk down pat, and his name is George so the wing-nuts won't have to learn a new name (that'd be hard werk).

While I don't know that my disdain for the man rivals Tay Tay's, I also can't stand the sight of him. When he was Governor (I'm in NC but watch VA TV channels) I used to have to flip to another channel if he appeared on my screen because there is just something about the man that I can't bear to watch. Something about that condescending little smile of his just gives be the willies. Maybe that was the "Bush quality" that I was reacting to way back then but just didn't know what to call it!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:43 PM
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11. I am usually filled with the milk of human kindness
I am nice to kids, pick trash on the streets and contribute to noble charities. Honest, I am a real sweetheart. But there is just something about that man that drives me up the friggin wall. He has those flat, dull, doll's eyes that don't register any semblance of human intelligence. And he smirks. (I think you're on to something. It must be the smirk.)

With apologies to Lerner & Lowe and My Fair Lady

Why Can't the Rethugs Teach Allen How to Speak?

Look at him, a prisoner of the gutter,
Condemned by every syllable he ever uttered.
By law he should be taken out and hung,
For the cold-blooded murder of the English tongue.

Allen: Duh! TayTay imitating his Duh!
Heaven's! What a noise!
This is what the Rethug population,
Calls an elementary education.
Whome Oh, Come now, I think you picked a poor example.
TayTay Did I?

Hear him in his Committee Chair,
Dropping football's everywhere.
Speaking English anyway he likes.

Why can't the Rethugs teach their Senators how to speak?
This mauling of the language, by now,
Should be antique. If you spoke as he does, sir,
Instead of the way you do,
Why, you might be dropping in the polls, too!

Hear a Santorum, or worse,
Hear a Hutchinson converse,
I'd rather hear a choir singing flat.
Chickens cackling in a barn Just like this one!
Allen Garn!(Duh!) (I ask you, sir, what sort of word is that?)

Why can't the Rethugs teach their Senators how to speak?
This mauling of the language by now should be antique.
If you spoke as they do, sir, Instead of the way you do,
Why, you might be stuck in Iraq, too.

Help! There must be a way to avoid this man. I just conveniently forgot that he is also on the Small Business and Entrepreneurship Committee with Sen. Kerry. (This is like a test from God, right! How much Allen can poor Sen. Kerry take before his head explodes.)
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:46 PM
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12. hahahaha
Well done!!!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:52 PM
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14. Is he intentionally stalking Kerry or figuring Kerry picked the
right committee - so he's copying. But think of it this way, following Allen, Coleman, Burns and others, Kerry just sounds even more rational, sane and intelligent in comparison. I think it's more likely Allen's head may explode trying to follow Kerry's comments and understand them - especially when all the experts start referring to Kerry's point rather than his.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:54 PM
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15. That was great!
:applause: You've really been on a roll lately with your writing. (Loved the classroom scene from a couple of days ago!) Poor Johnny, he's simply surrounded by non-English speaking idjits. Just think though how much fun it would be to watch a Presidential debate between JK and Sen. Mydaddywasafootballcoach. It would be like deja vu all over again!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:23 PM
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10. Why do I viscerally dislike all the "likable" Republicans
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 07:24 PM by karynnj
and really really find the supposedly "unlikable" Kerry to be charming, intelligent and very likable. Teresa was 100s of times more sympathetic, kind, open and warm when she spoke than the rather plastic Laura - but she was also not likable - although she was likable when married to Senator Heinz.

Who are the "They" that keep telling us who is "likable" as if it wasn't something we should discern.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:51 PM
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13. It's because we no
longer live in the reality-based world. Everything is because they say it is so. Black is white. The sky is green. Bush is charming. Laura is perfect.

Shudder. I never liked Bush from the first time I laid eyes on him. Even before I knew anything about him factually I knew he was bad news. Watching him literally made my skin crawl. Laura gives me the creeps as well - she's the perfect Stepford Wife. But he's so obviously a cheap bully, a hollow man, a nobody, that anyone who ever refers to him as "likable" has no credibility. He makes babies cry, and I bet cats and puppies loathe him as well.

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