Why do I go to Kos. Why, why, why.

[LittleClarkie]

I was doing okay until this person started playing junion psychologist. Apparently he can't understand how heartbreaking going up against the right wing smear machine can be, esp. when you live in Freeperville like I do. Why, if some tubby little Hannity listener upset me by bouncing around and chanting flip flop would it mean that I secretly feared the tubby little Hannity listener was right.

AND this person won't admit he's getting his news from the Herald. Mmmm, KOOLADE!

I went over to the Huffington blog and gave HER a piece of my mind as well. Next they'll be calling him "Live Shot."

I've half a mind to dig up an article on Dean froom the Herald and post it over there as if it meant something.

Good GOD. I'm about ready to cry here.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/28/205650/362

flippity flop (3.33 / 3)
Sen. John F. Kerry back-pedalled on blistering criticism of the war in Iraq, conceding that ``progress'' has been made recently in the battle-scarred nation - despite what he termed continued failures by President Bush.

``There is some schedule showing what you (need) to do to get Iraqis standing up and defending themselves which is now suddenly beginning to happen, so there are some signs of progress,'' Kerry said during a 30-minute speech at the Park Plaza Hotel. ``The only way we're going to be successful there - and ultimately, success is going to have to be somewhat redefined - is to create sufficient stability to get the troops home.''

He later added while speaking to reporters: ``The Iraqi forces are improving somewhat. Whether it's enough to hold the line is obviously a very serious question.''

While acknowledging gains, Kerry called the war ``deeply troubled'' and said he is working on a timetable for a troop pullout.

``I want us to be successful. We all in America want it. Our troops are doing an incredible job. They deserve better choices in support of them,'' he said.
by debraz on Wed Sep 28th, 2005 at 19:47:21 CST


unadulterated disgust (4.00 / 2)
that "flip flop" shit makes me want to puke. if you want to parrott GOP talking points take theselves to some other goddamn site. i don't give a fuck if you think they're accurate or not. goddammit... seeing this shit from 'progressives' enrages me....
by Hounds on Wed Sep 28th, 2005 at 21:19:43 CST

Thank you (none / 0)
And that's exactly what it is, or they wouldn't be using EXACTLY those words.

And I suppose we all still believe that Al Gore said he invented the internets.

(stage whisper) and you know, that Dean fellow is supposed to be a waffler...

The memory of a tubby co-worker bouncing around me, literally bouncing around, going "flip, flop, flip, flop, flip, flop" still makes me go red in the face with anger.

I tried to deal with it with humor this time. But the last thing any of us needs is RW talking points on our own damn side.
by Kerrycrat on Wed Sep 28th, 2005 at 21:25:12 CST


Red in the face with anger? (none / 0)
THAT is my friend what we call a clue. Your anger is a sign that YOU believe it holds some truth, otherwise, you'd be unphased, or maybe even laugh.
by debraz on Thu Sep 29th, 2005 at 06:06:29 CST


Quoting from the Boston Herald might also (none / 0)
be considered a "clue."

But let's assume you know my mind better than I do, arrogant though that may be. Let's see, when else did I get red in the face other than at the sight of a fat man bouncing up and down and taunting me. Hmm.

Well there was the time the local DJs started singing "B-Double-E-Double-R-U-N" in reference to Max Cleland. Hmm. So I guess, deep down, I suspected that Max didn't deserve respect for his service. Assuming you're right, of course.

And then there was the whole Swift Boat thing. So I must have suspected that Kerry really didn't earn his medals.

Interesting.

But I still find it MORE interesting that you consider a Right Wing rag a suitable source from which to quote. Very interesting, indeed.
by Kerrycrat on Thu Sep 29th, 2005 at 15:27:38 CST


Courtesy of HuffPo (none / 0)
if that's "right wing rag" enough for you.

Yes, believe it or not, no one or nothing can "make" anyone angry - including you. It's your emotion, you own it. You can pull a Brownie, and do a heck of a job blaming whoever you wish. If that "makes" you feel less angry.

Funny thing about anger. In the end, it's always about lil' old you.
by debraz on Thu Sep 29th, 2005 at 17:31:37 CST


You didn't quote Huffington's Blog (none / 0)
You got the link from Huffington's Blog, then quoted from the Boston Herald.

Shame on both of you for taking the word of Boston's answer in print to "Fox News." Gee, the Right Wing media isn't noted for pulling things out of context or anything.

As for the rest of your post, I have no idea what that has to do with anything in particular. Didn't blame anyone. Just pointing out where you get your news.

And also that your attempt at Junior Psychology was woefully inept.

Kindly remove your head from your ass, and stop agreeing with the Right Wing just because it happens to be Kerry they're talking about.

Would you quote them if they had something negative to say about Dean or Clark or anyone else? How about Dennis. I'm sure they love Dennis.
by Kerrycrat on Thu Sep 29th, 2005 at 19:42:23 CST

[paulk]

1. because you want to be angry?

:hide:


seriously, stay away from that place - it's bad for you...

[LittleClarkie]

2. snap

!@#%^&%$#@!!.

Yeah, I should. But then there are about a dozen folks who appreciate alittle water in the desert, Kerry-wise.

Ignorant is one thing, but smug, condescending ignorance is almost too much. Iiieeee.

What I SHOULD do is post my Kerry news and then run.

I did have one good thing happen though. After Bush's Katrina speech, when Kerry sent a statement to RawStory, I posted it on Kos and ended up on the recommended list. It was quite cool. Sometimes I think there are more Kerry folks over there, but the anti-folks are just more vocal.

But then again, it's Kos, so who am I kidding.

[fedupinBushcountry]

3. Huff post

The first time I posted there I got banned. Why? Because I hit her with her own medicine. I told her how could she speak of a failed Kerry campaign, when she failed as well in her campaign in California. Truth hurts, and like any right wing in Independent clothing, she had me banned, and my post was deleted.

Made me feel good though because I knew I got her, and she didn't want anyone reading that about Miss Perfect. She has never liked Kerry, and I think I know why, because he is so much more than she will ever be. She is nothing more than an opportunist. IMO.

I stay clear of DKos, its Deaniac heaven, and always has been, I mean Kos backed Dean, and oh how it hurts that Kerry won.

[LittleClarkie]

4. Let's see if I get banned too now

since I called her on her Herald quote. I bet they won't even post it.

As for Kos, sometimes don't you just get the feeling some folks are RW plants. I swear, Kerry could find a cure for cancer and they'd still say "fuck him!"

Eh, I'll continue to post Kerrygoddess' stuff there, but maybe I should post and run more often. There are a few clear heads over there, so I post mainly for them.

[wisteria]

6. I think you should post and run!

I do it all the time, its usually a big waste of time to try and get some of them to see reason. I basically post positive Kerry things for those who feel intimidated by the anti - Kerry bullies.

[LittleClarkie]

16. Yep, the dude I quoted is still blathering on

(I just peeked) tut-tutting about how I'm blaming his source without having the whole transcript of Kerry's speech. That was NOT the point. The point was that the Herald likely pulled perfectly accurate quotes out of context. That's what the RW media does. But the fool is dodging the point. How could someone be so damned dense. I'm catching on that he's only trolling now. And I swear he's a lurking freeper.

I don't care what anyone says, there is no excuse for using Boston's equivalent of Fox News for your source.

[LittleClarkie]

5. Okay, who is Votekerry?

Thanks for having my back!

[Mass]

7. My pleasure

I tend to hit and run. After a couple of minutes reading this crap, I feel like taking a bath.

[rox63]

8. I read Kos for some of their non-Kerry stuff

I don't post there, because I'm not a glutton for punishment.:spank: But they occasionally have some good non-Kerry-related stuff.

Edit to add: I like some of their stuff like this:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/29/181822/366

[ginnyinWI]

10. yeah, just when you think Dailykos is worthless--

you see a gem like that. I don't go there, but it was posted at DU. That guy(?) Hunter is an excellent writer and he was spot-on! That was a very satisfying read. I'd recommend it for all lovers of good writing (and for haters of Bushco, too!)

[whometense]

11. I love that post.

Hunter does write crap about Kerry - but that was a good one!

[ginnyinWI]

12. well at least he mentioned "Swift Boats", twice. :-) n/t

[Mass]

13. I like that post

Unfortunately, most are not that way.

kos has a post on the frontpage answering to Obama post.

The answer, basically, could be summarized that way: if somebody we like casts a vote we disagree with, we're fine with it; if it is somebody we dont like, kill him.

We all knew this already, but this double standard is driving me crazy.

[whometense]

14. I never go over there anymore except

if a link looks interesting or is about Kerry. I was over there a LOT, trying to change minds before the primaries, and I lost any respect for Kos back then because of his closed-mindedness. All that crap about whether he was/was not working for Dean is just blather. He always sided with Dean and therefore hated Kerry. It's apparent that in his mind there is no room for both of them in the public sphere.

He has every right in the world to his own opinions, but that fact disqualifies him as a host to a wide range of democratic voices. He sets the tone, and the tone is and always has been hostile to Kerry. And Kerry supporters.

[LittleClarkie]

15. The other thing I like is that Conyers and Cindy post over there

as well as a few other luminaries. So it's good to at least see who's recommended at the mo'

And as I said, I was proud that I got Kerry on the recommended list for his "leadership is not a toll free number" comment.

[karynnj]

9. I don't know how you stand it

That person is arrogant beyond words and stupid to boot. Anger is a normal reaction to the negative stimulus presented, how one responds when angry is under your control, but not the anger itself.

You don't have to post the BH Dean comments - post anything that doesn't list him as the savior of the party and the man who would have decimated Bush and they whine. I love that Sheehan (formerly one of their icons) obviously "got" Kerry, but she (or people around her) seemed annoyed by Dean's letter.

I've been leary going there because they have no place to hide like here.