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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:01 PM
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Kerry on C-SPAN2 (nt)
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:13 PM
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1. I saw it.
I wish there was a way we could TVO him. Record anytime he is on.
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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:13 PM
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2. Anyone know what just happened?
JK said he'd yield for a question but wasn't yielding his time and now there's a whole list of people speaking, specifically Brownback?

Does someone with a better grasp of how this works think JK will be on again soon?

Thanks!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:15 PM
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3. I expected him to be back before Senator Brownback
I thought I had missed something - because I'm making cookies.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:20 PM
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4. A whole lot of confusion..
... both over there and with me here, very busy doing very boring stuff on the computer while listening to C-SPAN. I don't think he will be back after Brownback. I think it will be Hulk Stevens once more, then Durbin & Boxer, or something like that...
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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:21 PM
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5. bizarre! n/t
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 08:27 PM
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6. I caught some of it
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 08:27 PM by TayTay
I have Kerry from last night and tonight on TIVO. (Just by pure blind luck or Kerrydar, not sure which or both.)

Sen. Jay Rockefeller spoke first tonight about the Senate Intelligence bill that went to a conference committee with the House. (One of 3 that the Senate is trying desperately to get passed before Christmas.) This bill had an amendment on it by Sen. Krry that passed, on Nov 9th by 82-9. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00318 To Wit:

TEXT OF AMENDMENTS -- (Senate - November 10, 2005)

SA 2507. Mr. KERRY (for himself, Mr. Reid, Mr. Biden, and Mr. Dayton) proposed an amendment to the bill S. 1042, to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2006 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe personnel strengths for such fiscal year for the Armed Forces, and for other purposes: as follows:


At the end of subtitle D of title X, add the following:

SEC. __. REPORTS ON CLANDESTINE DETENTION FACILITIES FOR INDIVIDUALS CAPTURED IN THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM.

(a) Secretary of Defense Report.--

(1) REPORT REQUIRED.--Not later than sixty days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Defense shall submit to the Committees on Armed Services of the Senate and the House of Representatives a detailed report on the knowledge of the Secretary, and of the personnel of the Department of Defense, on whether or not there exists, or has existed, any clandestine facility outside of United States territory for the detention of individuals captured in the global war on terrorism, whether operated by the United States Government or at the request of the United States Government.

(2) ELEMENTS.--The report required by paragraph (1) shall include the following:

(A) Whether or not the Secretary or any personnel of the Department of Defense have affirmative knowledge that a facility described in paragraph (1) exists.

(B) If the Secretary or any such personnel have affirmative knowledge that such a facility does exist--

(i) the existence of such facility;

(ii) any support provided by the Department of Defense to any other department, agency, or element of the United States Government, or any foreign government, for the establishment, operation, or maintenance of such facility;

(iii) the amount of funds obligated or expended by the Department in furtherance of the establishment, operation, or maintenance of such facility;

(iv) whether the Department has transported individuals captured in the global war on terrorism to or from such facility, and if so--

(I) the number of such individuals;

(II) the date of transfer of each such individual to such facility;

(III) the place from which each such individual was so transferred,: and

(IV) the identity of the agency or authority in whose custody each such individual was held before such transfer;

(v) whether any detainee in such facility is expected to be prosecuted by military commission or another system for administering justice; and

(vi) the interrogation procedures used on each individual detained in such facility.

(C) Whether or not the Department has ever held any individual captured in the global war on terrorism at a facility controlled by the Department at the request of, or in cooperation with, another department, agency, or element of the United States Government, and for any such individual so held, a detailed description of the circumstances surrounding the detention of such individual and the disposition, if any of such individual.

(3) FORM OF REPORT.--The report required by paragraph (1) shall be submitted in classified form.

(b) Director of National Intelligence Reports.--

(1) REPORTS REQUIRED.--Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Director of National Intelligence shall provide to each member of the Select Committee on Intelligence of the Senate and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence of the House of Representatives a detailed report setting forth the nature and cost of, and otherwise providing a full accounting on, any clandestine prison or detention facility currently or formerly operated by the United States Government, regardless of location, where detainees in the global war on terrorism are or were being held.

(2) ELEMENTS.--The reports required by paragraph (1) shall set forth, for each prison or facility covered by such report, the following:

(A) The location and size of such prison or facility.

(B) If such prison or facility is no longer being operated by the United States Government, the disposition of such prison or facility.

(C) The number of detainees currently held or formerly held, as the case may be, at such prison or facility.

(D) Any plans for the ultimate disposition of any detainees currently held at such prison or facility.

(E) A description of the interrogation procedures used or formerly used on detainees at such prison or facility.

(3) FORM OF REPORTS.--The reports required by paragraph (1) shall be submitted in classified form.


The Rethugs bastards in the House stripped this amendment from the Defense Bill (S.1042.) So bear in mind, that this had passed by 82-9. The cowards in the House just dropped it in deference to the White House which doesn't want any restraints what so ever on whatever it wants to do.

So, Sen.Rockefeller talked this evening and set up the little talk by Sen. Kerry. When JK spoke he talked about this Defense Re-Authorization Bill and how the White House it's it's evil little minions in the House have been denying democracy at every turn and doing things by whim and caveat, no matter what the US Senate says. (A very small cabal of evil bastards runs Congress and nothing gets by them that they don't want to get by them.)

Clear?
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