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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 09:31 AM
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Let's get real
Edited on Sun Feb-26-06 09:44 AM by ProSense
about Republican shill and other BS:

But attack, criticize, then take credit for doing nothing? If they stick to that game plan, Democrats forever will be relegated to the minority.

The Kerry plan

But Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., says Democrats, in fact, do have an agenda.

"The single biggest thing we could do to help the economy in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio (is) to reduce health-care costs for workers and businesses," the defeated presidential candidate says.

He supports increasing the size of the military and doing more for military families. "We can jump-start new technologies, create jobs and improve our security by actually breaking our dependence on Middle East oil," Kerry said.

But, as per usual, exactly how Democrats will do all this isn't specified in such largely boilerplate talk.

If Republicans want to begin a new conservative legacy, they'd better get their game on. Voters are demanding fundamental reform. Republicans actually can gain in the midterm elections if they articulate an agenda centered on core values.

It's what Americans want and deserve.

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/s_427395.html




First, Kerry's plan sounds good to me. Second, it obviously sounds good to the author too (although he's asking how Kerry plans to accomplish what he's promising).

Similarly, yesterday in GD-P someone again posted the lame argument that Kerry was the lesser of two evils.


Here’s a sampling of what Bush (with support for the Rubber-Stamp Republicans) is doing:

Destroying the America's health care system
Trying to steal Social Security
Leaving every child behind
Outsourcing jobs
Outsourcing national security
Pushing the Alternative Minimum Tax on Americans
Turning oil industry royalties into a subsidy
Spending $500,000,000 on the Iraq war
Falsifying WMD information
Continuing an illegal war in Iraq
Failing to deal effectively with the ME peace process
Pushing his failed foreign policy that resulted in a win for Hamas
Leaking the name of a CIA agent -- Plame outing
Supporting Republican gerrymandering (Republican version of election reform---create districts in which it’s no longer necessary to suppress the African American vote at the polls)
Stonewalling election reform
Sanctioning torture
Illegally spying on American
Trying to avert blame for his administration's incompetent response to Katrina
Appointing cronies at every level and in every branch of government
Lying about dealings with Abramoff
Allowing Halliburton to rip off tax payers
Engaging in unprecedented secrecy
Usurping Congressional powers
Acting like a dictator
Endorsing payola




Here is what Kerry has in common with Bush:








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To that reporter: If Bush can find a half a trillion dollars to spend on an illegal war, Kerry can find enough funding to do what’s right for America.


People need to cut the BS and wake the fu*k up.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 09:35 AM
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1. It's the trib.
The trib is a RW Scaife rag.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 09:39 AM
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2. Yeah, I saw that article and was fooled at first into thinking it was a
pro-Kerry article about his trip. Then I read it. People just don't get it.



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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 12:13 PM
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3. Joe "Moron" Klein is at it again
And so the President finds himself in an exceedingly odd position for a post-Reagan Republican. He is acting like a Democrat, standing for abstract principles and high-minded long-term projects in the face of a public demanding easy answers and immediate results.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2481820&mesg_id=2481820
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:03 PM
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4. Still, the article says more about the ideas of the Democrats
Edited on Sun Feb-26-06 01:03 PM by wisteria
than the Republicans ideas or platforms- so to speak. I think the writer realized the things Kerry mentioned could gain some attention and had to counter them with predicable comments about not providing details or plans and just attacking. I see this a an opening for a letter defending our ideals and Kerry's suggestions. Actually, for the Tribe, I am surprised they even gave a Democratic point of view.

Thanks for posting. I live in the area and have been subjected to this POS newspaper for a long time. I won't even purchase it-I will not give Scaife a nickle of my money for him to insult my ideals and use the paper as a platform for his ideas.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 05:32 PM
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5. Even in the small number of words Kerry was given,
Edited on Sun Feb-26-06 05:33 PM by karynnj
he did articulate a positive direction. That he says they have no plans, Kerry had a very detailed health insurance plan on his web site in 2004. The small Kids First part, I think, was submitted as legislation - so it has to be detailed. By complaining that these were just ideas and words, the columnist sort of implies that they are good ideas, which is more than is said of the Republicans.

Bush has been stealing Kerry's comments from 2004 on alternative energy - but as Kerry pointed out, they'll work with him if it's real - the interesting thing is that the columnist DIDN'T say that this was a Bush idea.

The other interesting comment is when she spoke of returning to Reagan, she said stopping the mud throwing would be a good first step. This says that they HAVE been mudslinging. To me it's interesting that Kerry comes out well in this compared to the Republicans and that he is positioned in this as a Democratic leader. (which in better than he gets in the NYT)

Reading the editorial, I was trying to remember which was the "good" and which was the "bad" Pittsburg paper.
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