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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:49 AM
Original message
Tell me
CNN isn't doing this intentionally! I don't give a damn about any syndicate subscription!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/06/29/tyrrell.kerry/index.html?section=cnn_latest
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:00 PM
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1. WHO THE HELL
is this asshole?
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #1
42. He's a very bad man.
And has been for a very long time. Yet another chickenhawk to add to the list, a tax cheating, no talent hack who was behind the Arkansas project, the 4 year, $40 million failed swiftboating attempt aimed at Bill and Hillary Clinton.

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/cov_09news.html

A Clinton critic's tax-exempt lifestyle

As head of the American Spectator's nonprofit foundation, R. Emmett Tyrrell enjoys some unusual perks -- including expensive trips to Europe, a one-third subsidy for the costs of his Virginia house and two club memberships.
Internal Revenue Service regulations governing 501(c)3-type organizations such as the American Spectator Educational Foundation strictly regulate the use of tax-exempt resources for the "private inurement" of any individual beyond "reasonable compensation" for his or her services.

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http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/cov_08news.html

funny money

Pittsburgh billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife's effort to damage the Clinton presidency by
channeling almost $2.4 million through the conservative American Spectator magazine may
end up, ironically, damaging the magazine instead by exposing it to possible tax code violations, according to knowledgeable sources and internal documents obtained by Salon.
The crisis at the American Spectator stems from the so-called "Arkansas Project," a
four-year effort aimed at producing investigative exposés about Clinton in the magazine.
The project produced little journalism, according to Spectator staffers. But it led to the
breakup of the American Spectator's founding team, which had been together for 30 years,
the dismissal of its original publisher and the resignation of three prominent members
from the Spectator's board of directors.
However, the Spectator's other co-founder, president and editor-in-chief, R. Emmett
Tyrrell Jr.
, angrily rejected Burr's call and declared the case as to whether fraud had
been committed "closed." When Burr persisted, Tyrrell convened a special board meeting at
his home and had Burr summarily fired.

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http://www.populist.com/98.3.mcgrath.html
As the camera roamed, Tyrrell spoke of his first publication at Indiana of The
Alternative. That first issue's cover was framed near Tyrrell's desk. The graphic m the
middle of the cover was of a B-52 bomber in the shape of the then-popular peace symbol.
Underneath was written "Drop It." With the Vietnam war going all-out at the time, Tyrrell
was clearly part of the conservative cadre on campus being groomed by his right-wing
elders for better days. The Alternative would, over a few years and changes of location,
metamorphosize into the American Spectator and spawn, with the help of large conservative
donors, a host of campus imitators around the country, often with the word "Spectator" in
the titles.
Tyrrell has long been a peddler of fringe ideas. His book Boy Clinton (Regnery Press) was
recently followed by The Impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton (Regnery Press), a book
about the fictional impeachment of Bill Clinton and the triumph of ultra-conservative
ideology in America. Regnery Press is a small, ultra-conservative Capitol Hill operation
funded by an array of heavy-hitting conservative donors, including Scaife.

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http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/1998/cyb19981026.asp#3

"Item: According to David Hale’s own court testimony, one of his lawyers was powerful
Washington attorney Ted Olson. Item: Ted Olson is an ex-law partner and a close friend of
Ken Starr. Item: Ted Olson is also a member of the board of directors of the American
Spectator. According to Hale’s testimony Mr. Olson began representing him in December
1993. According to a very reliable inside source, Olson hosted a meeting in his law office
that same month. It was attended by Arkansas Project operatives Boynton and Henderson. The
agenda: how best to use Richard Mellon Scaife’s millions to dig up dirt on Bill Clinton.
So Ted Olson, one of Ken Starr’s closest friends, not only helped plan the Arkansas
Project but he also represented David Hale.
"Hale, the con man who Kenneth Starr told the federal court was his prime witness.
Hale the crook that Starr asked the judge to treat with leniency, to reduce his prison
sentence and to release him from the obligation of repaying the $2 million he stole from
the federal government. The road was now wide-open for what would become a relentless four
year, $40 million pursuit of the President, one that still came up dry until Kenneth
Starr’s right-wing friends, directly or indirectly, led him to a young lady named Monica
Lewinsky."


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http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200111/york

The Life and Death of The American Spectator

The conservative magazine survived and prospered for twenty-five years before Bill Clinton
came into its sights. Now the former President is rich and smiling, and the Spectator is
dead


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http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewPrint&articleId=4351


"The Arkansas Drug Shuttle," published in the Spectator in 1995, was a fanciful tale of
cocaine smuggling, the CIA, and black cargo jets told to Tyrrell by former Arkansas state trooper L.D. Brown--who happened to be on the Spectator's payroll at the time. Indeed,
Tyrrell's dispatches stirred considerable controversy among the magazine's own staff.
"Even within the Spectator, people had problems with the stories," says
David Brock, the Spectator's star investigative reporter at the time.
.....

===

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/conason1.html

In their new book, "The Hunting of the President," Joe Conason and Gene Lyons detail the
right wing's machinations to whack Bill and Hillary Clinton, a ten-year campaign that
helped trigger the president's impeachment. Central to this effort was the so-called
"Arkansas Project," a dirt-digging effort financed by Richard Mellon Scaife and run by R.
Emmett Tyrrell, Jr., editor of the "American Spectator." As this invoice shows, the
Project hired former Army spook William T. "Tom" Golden to nose around, a process which
led Golden to meet with a source in Ken Starr's office about that Hillary Clinton
indictment (TSG's still waiting on that one). Hard to believe the independent counsel crew
wasn't so independent after all, huh?


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http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/04/06/time/hale.html

From 1993 to 1997, two Scaife foundations transferred $2.4 million to another foundation
that owns the Spectator. The magazine turned over much of that money to Stephen Boynton, a
Virginia attorney and conservative activist, who spread it around to hunt down stories
about the President through various means, including private detectives. The possibility
that the tax-exempt money was misused--which could jeopardize the tax-exempt status of the
Spectator--was apparently troubling to the magazine's longtime publisher, Ronald E. Burr.
Last year he demanded an audit by an outside accounting firm. In October, Burr was
abruptly fired by Spectator editor in chief R. Emmett Tyrrell. Now the magazine is
finishing up an "internal investigation" of the funds. It's headed by Theodore Olson, a
Spectator board member, Starr's former law partner and Hale's onetime attorney.


Read:

The Hunting of the President

Blinded by the Right

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:18 PM
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43. Great stuff!
Damn, these people are pure evil!
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:03 PM
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2. Oh, good God almighty
It's actually called the Creators Syndicate which makes sense, since the author has "created" a most remarkable tail of fiction. Okay, now I'm getting more and more suspicious about those Swifty telephone numbers -- it's a lot easier for a RW source to get their names and numbers than an opposition party would. This is an outright lie, that I can verify IMMEDIATELY:

Kerry's statement is long and lurid, and the Swifties gladly reproduced a tape of it during the 2004 election. Now these veterans are being harassed by the senator's supporters with crank calls in the night and venomous postings on the liberal website HuffingtonPost.com. On that celebrity-ridden site the names and personal information of more than a dozen Swift Boat veterans were posted by such "trusted" Huffington Post celebrities as "SatanLivesinUSA." Could this be Barbra Streisand's username? At any rate, this eminence wrote on June 24: "SwiftBoatVets who need some Black Ops done on them. I have some very good ideas I gleaned from 'CIA BOOK of DIRTY TRICKS' Don't get mad, get EVEN." Minutes later another "trusted" celebrity poster repeatedly pasted these threatening words on the page and on another Huffington Post post.

The American Spectator's indefatigable reporter, Dave Holman, found all this and reports that "Aside from one or two complaints, fellow commenters did not object to the posting of the information or the threats." Within hours the veterans were receiving threatening calls. In the early hours of June 25 one Swiftie, Van Odell, got three in four minutes, the last from a man who inquired, "I want to know why you lied about John Kerry . Traitors must die. We will get you." Holman notes that the Swifties have reported these calls to law enforcement but that they had no luck in getting HuffingtonPost to address the harassment. The comments remained posted until Holman reached Katharine Zaleski, the site's news editor, on Tuesday afternoon at her unlisted telephone number. As I say, Holman is indefatigable.


Um, I don't know how to tell you guys this, and I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say this:

We, the online supporters of John Kerry, have just been swiftboated!!!! They're making up lies about us that cannot be disproved, and are using the Swift Boat vets, once again, as the victims of a crime by . . . us!!

How do we fight this? Because what we learned from '04 is you don't stay silent when attacks like this are launched.


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. I am posting
this sucker in GD!

Kerry supporters have just been swift boated on CNN!

I read the first two paragraphs and believed it to be the same story that ran a few weeks back, but it looks like it has been updated!
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:16 PM
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7. Can you do a dKos diary, too?
Talk about the success of YearlyKos and Huff Post, how Swifty trolls have shown up on both sites, and now they have launched a multi pronged attack.

They have attacked:

John Kerry
John Kerry's Vietnam War record
the entire liberal blogosphere
Huff Post in particular
And, the most personal, online Kerry supporters

Ask that supporters of ALL candidates to please help us, because it could happen to them, too. We must stick together!!

The posting of the names, numbers, and addresses of the SBVT was no doubt done by the Right. This is an insideous attack, and must be exposed. We should DEMAND a police report from them and PROVE their accusations.


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:45 PM
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10. Done!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:10 PM
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6. Adriana Huffington should address this
These are anonymous posters other than whatever info they provided the site. She should make this clear in no uncertain terms.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:19 PM
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8. Well, if this is true and they actually rec'd harrassing calls THEN
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 12:20 PM by beachmom
the police should do internet espionage and find out who put out those addresses. And I can guarantee you, it was NOT a Kerry supporter. It was somebody from the Right. I know it, especially when I saw that troll yesterday on dKos, pretending to be a crazed lefty.

Someone should tell the senator that his online supporters have been attacked, because this will hurt OUR credibility going forward if we don't debunk these lies now.

Edited to remove obscenity. I feel like I'm going to have to behave myself better from now on.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 01:21 PM
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19. Excellent points - and you ALWAYS are well behaved
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:48 PM
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12. The only things I can think of to disprove this, are:
Supposedly these were not moderated by the blog because they came from trusted users. This means they have a number of posts. Someone needs to demand to see the prior posts of this poster(or posters). We should also demand that the SBVT demand a real investigation into this. The call detail records from the common carriers can be used to get all calls (not from the local calling area)and can easily identify the originators. This can be done legally and is what is typically done for telephone harrassment.

The American Spectator, where the article appeared and of which Tyrell is the publisher (the connection is not mentioned) was a rag when I saw it in Bloominton, Indiana in the 60s. It was just considered strange by a student population that voted 95% to get out of Asia.
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Blaukraut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:04 PM
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3. What a nasty piece of crap editorial
Who IS this guy? Initially, I was tempted to e-mail him some choice words of my own, but I don't want to make his point, so once my blood has ceased boiling, a cooler head shall prevail. :grr:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:50 PM
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13. He is the creepy editor of American Spectator
a RW rag that started in the late 1960s. The bigger question is why does CNN give him the credibility he never earned. They would never put a fringe left hit piece up.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 01:10 PM
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15. He's quoting his own wingnut rag
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:08 PM
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4. Put this in GD. They are attempting to swiftboat US - Kerry supporters by
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 12:11 PM by blm
lying about us. Ask DU to support us in this battle - because, no doubt about it, this attack is on US.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:36 PM
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9. This is ridiculous. It is filled with lies
Useless letter to CNN:

Your article, Kerry's War, places you with the disgusting Free Republic as a source of smears and lies.

Emmet Tyrell repeats long disproved charges. The Navy itself has reviewed Kerry's medals and said they were appropriately awarded. How does Mr. Tyrell think the clever young Kerry was able to get the Navy to give him 3 "undeserved" purple hearts and two extremely important medals?

I know that Mr. Tyrell would have preferred that George Bush would have had Kerry's real record of heroism and that Senator Kerry had used his connections to avoid Vietnam. It is he, not Senator Kerry who is delusional. Whether Tyrell likes it or not, Senator Kerry was a war hero. In fact, last week, on the floor of the Senate, Republican Senator Warner, who was the Secretary of the Navy under Nixon said he approved Kerry's silver star and that he had also gone back and had confirmed it was appropriately awarded.

As to Kerry's records, the non-medical records were on his web site for at least a year and the 3 newspapers indicated that they were the same as those from the Navy and were complete (except for one cover sheet from the last VN fitness report that Kerry didn't have before which recommended him for accelerated promotion.) I read these in 2004 - many of the SBVT wrote extremely glowing things in 1968/1969. They also rated him very highly, both in absolute terms and in comparison to his peers.

I have read the Huffington Post on occasion and will tell you the trusted posters (the first comments every time) are not Kerry supporters. Though the American Spectator wants to suggest that Kerry has something to do with harrasing these men, I suggest it is more likely RW trolls wanting to hurt him.

In the NYT article, a friend of Kerry was quoted as saying that they would undertake this effort even if Kerry were retiring from office. It seemed to me that they had two goals to completely refute the SBVT and to identify the source of money behind these continuing efforts. No wonder Mr Tyrell is spewing filth again.

If he can't even call a public figure by the name his parents gave him, he has a major problem. Although I, as a liberal, would be horrified, would you carry an article speaking of the Bush Crime family? That would be the equivilent distance from the mainstream.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:45 PM
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11. Thank you! n/t
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 01:01 PM
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14. Hey, did you ever hear the full Kerry - O'Neill debate from '71
I found a functioning archived version on the web. http://radioinsidescoop.com/mt-posts-archive/000172.html

Anyone here every read Deborah Lipstadt's Denying the Holocaust ? Ms. Lipstadt had some interesting things to say about how to fight smears and the methods the liars use to get their points into the public conscienceness.

We need not waste time or effort answering the deniers' contentions. It would be never-ending to respond to arguments posed by those who freely falsify findings, quote out of context and simply dismiss reams of testimony. Unlike true scholars, they have little, if any, respect for data or evidence. Their commitment is to an ideology and their 'findings' are shaped to support it.

The way of fighting Holocaust deniers is with history and with truth.


Anybody read David Brock's book Blinded by the Right ? He talks, a lot, about people like Emmet Tyrell, who are vicious attack dogs for the Far Right who consider truth incidental to an argument. A lot of the tactics that the SBVT employ were used by Far Right Wing American groups to deny the existence of the Holocaust. (They have also been used to undermine support for liberal cuases in general, but the Holocaust denyers exist in their own special universe cuase they are so nasuseating.) How do you fight a smear?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_fallacy How to make shit up and present it in a way that looks plausible. (Plausible is all these guys want, btw. They just want the argument in the public arena. Truth is irrelevant as a defense.)
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. The truth is John Warner's statement on the Senate floor n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. Thanks Tay Tay - for the link and advice
That makes so much sense and you are right - disproving every lie is impossible and hard work. It's also a losing strategy as they can create lies faster than all of us could find information to counter it.

Plausible and detailed. That likely explains the garbage the NY Sun printed on election day trying to prove that Kerry had a dishonorable discharge. They took a few facts (They took from Tour of Duty that Kerry said it was too late to apply to law school when he decided to go, he applied to BC,BU, and Harvard and got in BC) To this they added:
-Kerry lost in Nov 1972 plenty of time to apply. (Ignoring the same page that Kerry took a bit of time to get over it and had to work to pay off debts.)
-Said an anonymus official at Harvard said they rejected him because he had a dishonable discharge and he couldn't be accepted to the bar.
-He later got amnesty under Carter though a provision written by Kennedy.

The fact that Kerry was admitted to the bar in 1976 before Carter took office and was already working as a proscecutor wouldn't be known by most people. It also misses the obvious, Nixon et al harrassed Kerry for years and were behind tirty tricks, wouldn't it have been easier to mail the Lowell Sun the discharge record - I don't think they would cover for him.

What is infuriating is that Kerry has led an unusually clean principled life and has dealt with this garbage at varying levels of intensity for 35 years.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #14
18. True, which is the reason
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 01:33 PM by ProSense
CNN and the rest of the media need to stop promoting their lies!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 01:39 PM
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20. Someone posted this over on DKos
It has some good ideas. I don't think we need to refute everything, but some other ideas are relevent. I mentioned seeing it on DU, which after hitting post I wish I hadn't.

Hi Karen, (1+ / 0-)
Recommended by:karenc, beachmom
are you (or other Kerry supporters) able to put together the following:

point by point rebuttals of the claims of fact he makes
make a full list of trashy words and phrases he uses to describe Kerry and his record
We'll try to get this scumbag off both CNN and Creators Syndicate, and where ever else this column appears.

Post a diary about it, with contact links to:

CNN
Creator's syndicate (there contact us page is here)
All other places where this column appears (someone will need to track it using google).
Starting a dkosopedia wiki page on this guy is
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. It's like
Tay says, they want people to get mired in responding to their BS! The fact is that these are lies and don't belong on CNN. There is no justification for them to publish this freeper crap. What are they going to start publishing the smears against Murtha, Gore or other Democrats? Lies are lies!
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 01:49 PM
Response to Original message
21. This article comes very close to suggesting that illegal activities
are condoned by Senator Kerry. He says "Kerry supporters" but the implication is that it is part of Kerry's personal vendetta against the swifties.

Are there any lawyers here?

Did this guy cross a line?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. Karyn made a great suggestion
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. So, ProSense, you think ALL of us should e-mail them?
I just want to make sure before I do anything.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. I think so! Here is part
of there mission statement:

The Patriot Project will aggressively confront those who misrepresent the combat experience, service, or activism of veterans and their families, or who otherwise cast aspersions on the patriotism or besmirch the honor and reputation of these Americans. The Patriot Project will also work to encourage the mainstream media to be more responsible and careful in considering the sources of these attacks, and in evaluating the material they offer.


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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #25
30. I just sent them an e-mail. Here it is.
Hello,

I wanted to point this article out to you by right wing writer and editor of American Spectator R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr. Here is the link:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/06/29/tyrrell.kerry/index.html?section=cnn_latest

It's all the same lies but then adds a new twist, accusing online Kerry supporters of posting the personal names, addresses, and phone numbers of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, and then making harassment calls to them. Here is the paragraph:

Kerry's statement is long and lurid, and the Swifties gladly reproduced a tape of it during the 2004 election. Now these veterans are being harassed by the senator's supporters with crank calls in the night and venomous postings on the liberal website HuffingtonPost.com. On that celebrity-ridden site the names and personal information of more than a dozen Swift Boat veterans were posted by such "trusted" Huffington Post celebrities as "SatanLivesinUSA." Could this be Barbra Streisand's username? At any rate, this eminence wrote on June 24: "SwiftBoatVets who need some Black Ops done on them. I have some very good ideas I gleaned from 'CIA BOOK of DIRTY TRICKS' Don't get mad, get EVEN." Minutes later another "trusted" celebrity poster repeatedly pasted these threatening words on the page and on another Huffington Post post.

I can tell you as someone who posts online and as a Kerry supporter that I, nor any Kerry supporter online I know, would EVER do such a thing. The other interesting tidbit is that all of us have found it very difficult to post on Huffington Post -- none of us have become trusted users -- while the Swifties easily have their comments posted on that site.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. Your site is doing great work!!

Beachmom
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #23
26. But I didn't do it yet - has anyone else
They probably don't need to be bombarded.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. You're right,
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 02:54 PM by ProSense
not bombarded, but made aware of the situation. This is in fact the second time such an article has appeared on CNN in the last few weeks.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. I wrote them a couple of hours ago. n/t
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #26
31. Oops. I already sent mine. Hope I'm not giving them more work. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. This is great! n/t
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:55 PM
Response to Original message
28. This is an opinion of a very sick person.
The one I am pissed at is CNN for posting this
piece of crap.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:33 PM
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33. I wrote them (e-mail) a while ago. n/t
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:49 PM
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34. Here is my e-mail I just sent to CNN
I sent it to the Politics section of CNN.com:

I am writing to you in reference to a most vile and horrible hit piece by R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr. entitiled "Kerry's War". The fact that it said he writes for "Creators Syndicate" is apt, since the author simply created one long fictional story providing no evidence whatsoever for all of his accusations. There have always been slanderous writers like R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. but what makes the last few years different, is that once respected and trusted media outlets like CNN now consider it perfectly reasonable to publish stories like these that would hardly be fit to print in the National Enquirer. You, CNN, are responsible for everything on your site, and when you allow a tabloid piece like this to be associated with your name, you debase that name and destroy what you have been trying to build since the '80s. I used to live in Atlanta, and was so enthralled when I had the priviledge to take the VIP tour of CNN. CNN was the pride and joy of Atlanta and America. Yet your journalistic integrity has slid so sharply, it's like you're not even the same company anymore.

Why have I become so disillusioned with CNN? You published this article, that not only defames John Kerry, but his on line supporters, without a shred of evidence to prove it. And, I am an on line Kerry supporter, just an ordinary citizen who of my own accord felt compelled to get involved, and participate on various blogs, including the Huffington Post. And I read this piece on YOUR SITE that accuses me or like minded citizens of a crime. And it is something I would never even think of doing, because it is wrong and it is pointless. Such lies and innuendo should never be printed on CNN until people are identified as Kerry supporters and are charged with a crime. But, alas, we all know there won't ever be charges brought about, because the point of this whole stunt is the continuing saga of "swift boating" John Kerry or any other Democrat who has the nerve to think differently than what the far Right finds acceptable. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said, "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." When will CNN return once again to fighting for the truth, with cold hard facts, and stop being manipulated and cajoled into publishing propaganda and lies by writers who have no respect for anything but attacking others who don't adhere to their ideology? I will wait patiently for that answer.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 04:42 PM
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35. This is a fantastic letter
I find it so hard to believe that the media has slid so low.

The anti-Kerry stuff as really accelerated. I think that they fear that people will find that he had a real exit plan - and that Bush was never working to exit. (This likely does combine with the energy plan - and may be why they are scared. The alternative to occupying an oil rich company is to invent our way out. This is a brave thing to initiate - if it works we keep our morality and a good standard of living - but if we can't and we can't control the oil, we can't maintain our standard of living.)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 04:51 PM
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37. Excellent!
This whole thing makes me sick!
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 04:43 PM
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36. I e-mailed them too
So sick. :-(
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 05:11 PM
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38. it is intentional! google Tryrell! he's a killer.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 05:49 PM
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39. Sent this:
Opinion on CNN.com June 1:

Consider the ongoing controversy over Sen. Jean-Francois Kerry's military service in the faraway Vietnam War. You doubt that the controversy is ongoing? Just last Sunday, a front-page story in The New York Times reported that some of Kerry's supporters during his ill-fated 2004 presidential campaign are endeavoring to prove him a war hero with an unblemished record of heroism. Their targets are the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/06/01/tyrrell.swiftboating


Opinion on CNN.com June 29:

WASHINGTON (CREATORS) -- The comic career of Senator Jean-Francois Kerry is picking up steam, or gas, as the case may be. This inveterate windbag is, according to the New York Times, reopening the Swift Boat controversy of 2004 that did such damage to his presidential prospects when hundreds of the Vietnam War veterans who served with him deflated his reckless boasts of military gloire. He has undertaken this quixotic mission claiming that he can repristinate his military record despite the Swifties' evidence against it. Then the delusory senator from Massachusetts seems to think he will be a shoo-in for the presidency in 2008.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/06/29/tyrrell.kerry/index.html?section=cnn_latest


When CNN first published this piece of right-wing trash, I wrote:

Did this trash really pass CNN’s cut for constructive opinion, even along different ideological lines? I come across a lot of disgusting opinions on the Internet. Is CNN prepared to print those as well? What if the hate mongers call themselves nationally syndicated journalists?

I am disgusted by what appears to be callous disregard for truth and willful support of lies. Also, unless your editors haven't notice my point, this is a hate piece! Disguising it as commentary is disingenuous as best.

I am embarrassed by the obvious and pathetic desperation the writer displays as he quotes his own dubious publication as if it was an independent source for the following accusation:

"Now these veterans are being harassed by the senator's supporters with crank calls in the night and venomous postings on the liberal website HuffingtonPost.com."


Evidently I was right about CNN as it appears this single lie-laden piece has become a recurring fixture on your site. As an organization, it's clear that CNN does not value truth and objectivity, and I question the motives behind this author's despicable claims appearing on your site twice in less than a month's time. I can only assume that your organization is intent on endorsing lies and smears.

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:50 PM
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40. Excellent, Prosense!!
I like how our letters approach different angles. No astroturf letters coming from the Kerry supporters, that's for sure!! I hope this turns some heads at CNN.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:20 PM
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41. That's true = no repeating talking points here
I hope some one at least reads them. Do you know anything about this Creator's syndicate - the Dkos guy suggested writing them the same? Even with googling it would be hard.
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