KOEB Meeting -- 5/12/06: Howard Beale Appreciation Society Edition

[Patsy Stone]

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechnetwork2.html (Link contains video and audio)

Beale: I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth; banks are going bust; shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter; punks are running wild in the street, and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it.

We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat. And we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be!

We all know things are bad -- worse than bad -- they're crazy.

It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out any more. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, "Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials, and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone."

Well, I'm not going to leave you alone.

I want you to get mad!

I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot. I don't want you to write to your Congressman, because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street.

All I know is that first, you've got to get mad. You've gotta say, "I'm a human being, goddammit! My life has value!"

So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell, "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!!"

[ralps]

1. Hi Patsy, Hi Everyone, I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this

anymore!!!! :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Patsy Stone]

2. I think that could be a mini-DU meet up tool

Everyone on DU go to your window and scream that out at a certain time and day et voila! Meet your DU neighbors. :) If it's just you, that's just as much fun. Nothing to lose, everything to gain. :hi:

[SharonRB]

4. That's a great idea, Patsy!

Shabbat Shalom.

[ralps]

3. This Washington Post/ABC Poll is seriously flawed & I "heart" John Dean

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Patsy Stone]

5. People hadn't had a chance to digest it.

They may not have even heard about it yet. Just wait...

[ralps]

10. The actual poll questions are totally bogus. Here are a couple of the

questions
44. What do you think is more important right now - (for the federal government to investigate possible terrorist threats, even if that intrudes on personal privacy); or (for the federal government not to intrude on personal privacy, even if that limits its ability to investigate possible terrorist threats)?

Investigate Respect No
threats privacy opin.
5/11/06 65 31 4
1/8/06 65 32 3
9/7/03* 73 21 5
9/8/02 78 18 4
6/9/02 79 18 3
*9/7/03 and previous: "FBI" rather than "federal government"
45. It's been reported that the National Security Agency has been collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans. It then analyzes calling patterns in an effort to identify possible terrorism suspects, without listening to or recording the conversations. Would you consider this an acceptable or unacceptable way for the federal government to investigate terrorism? Do you feel that way strongly or somewhat?


------- Acceptable ------ ----- Unacceptable ------ No
NET Strongly Somewhat NET Somewhat Strongly opin.
5/11/06 63 41 22 35 11 24 2

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :grr:

[gkhouston]

67. have you read the actual question?

Long, confusing, and carefully worded to elicit the desired response. They got what they were shopping for.

[spooky3]

12. Hi, ralps and everyone! Did you see Mediamatters.org's

critique? Keith seemed to rely on it when he made the comment that it wasn't true that the database was used only for #s and calls.

See the story:
Flawed Wash. Post/ABC News poll suggested no link between NSA data collection and warrantless spying -- despite Post's own contrary report

http://mediamatters.org/items/200605120005

[ralps]

18. Hi spooky3, Thanks for the link

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[bleever]

6. Say, what's that at the top of the Greatest list? Could it be??

Why...yes; yes, it is!

And me without a giant pool of champagne to swim around in naked and laughing.


:)


:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

8. Well, it's about fucking time!

Jesus! :hi:



Here's a start!

ed: pic.

[SharonRB]

9. Oh, my

Go lookee, everyone...We wish you a merry Fitz-whatever, we wish you a merry Fitz-whatever...

[Berry Cool]

13. I am worried and I do not want to jump the gun.

Until I see this said somewhere besides a liberal Web site, I will find it hard to believe. :shrug:

I hope they're right. But nothing has happened yet, and now Monday is the soonest it can. Monday...when Keith will not even be ON. :cry:

[WolverineDG]

23. Woo Hoo!

:woohoo: :woohoo: *

dg


*will be turned into :cry: :cry: if this is just more administration bull shit.

[SharonRB]

7. I think it's time to buy Qwest stock

:loveya: John Dean

[Berry Cool]

11. Keith looks lovely in lavender tonight.

Glad to see John Dean again--he now says * is worse than Nixon!

If only more people were not "good Germans" who saw nothing wrong with their phone records being collected!

This is not conservatism! This is not necessary for protection against terra!

It's SNOOPING, that's all!

:hi: kids! Is Fitzmas really going to come, or is it all just rumors and Repugs feeding lefties lies to morally devastate us when we keep expecting indictments that never arrive?

[ralps]

16. Randi & Thom Hartmann both announced that Rove would be indicted

on their programs today, Thom is sitting in for Sam & Janeane. Merry Fitzmas weekend you all. :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :party: :party: :toast: :toast: :bounce: :bounce: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :patriot: :patriot:

[SharonRB]

17. Randi and Ed will both be on Larry King tonight

Larry will not be there.

[ralps]

20. I'll have to switch over to Cnn to watch Randi

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Berry Cool]

19. Yeah, but is that just wishful thinking or is it for SURE????

I'm afraid to be too happy!!

[ralps]

22. We'll see soon & I hope Jason Leopold is right on this. So far the people

at www.firedoglake.com haven't posted any articles comfirming Jason's article. :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :shrug:

[SharonRB]

27. Will said it's an exclusive

I just finished reading the whole thread.

[bleever]

35. Will has never steered us wrong on something of this magnitude.

I have put all of my eggs into this basket.

:thumbsup:

[SharonRB]

38. Mine are right there with yours, Bleev

[Patsy Stone]

39. True dat

And imagine the reaction at DU if it turned out that he was wrong. He's not going to publish this if he doesn't know it for sure. Here or anywhere else.

[WolverineDG]

26. I emailed Qwest today

asking when they were coming to Texas. All they offer here is long distance. :cry:

dg

[ralps]

29. It's the same w/ Wisconsin. I checked out the Qwest website & they only

offered long distance here :cry: :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals:

[Clark2008]

36. Better than here.

They don't offer jack here.

:(

[Botany]

14. Did I ever tell you that you are my Fav EDV?

Great Start!



BTW The New York Times says that the voting machines might have problems.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2622370

:rofl:

But what about the Lindbergh baby?

BTW Great Post earlier today No Data Mining?


Schneier on Security
April 14, 2006
AT&T Assisting NSA Surveillance

Interesting details emerging from EFF's lawsuit

According to a statement released by Klein's attorney, an NSA agent showed up at the San Francisco switching center in 2002 to interview a management-level technician for a special job. In January 2003, Klein observed a new room being built adjacent to the room housing AT&T's #4ESS switching equipment, which is responsible for routing long distance and international calls.

"I learned that the person whom the NSA interviewed for the secret job was the person working to install equipment in this room," Klein wrote. "The regular technician work force was not allowed in the room." Klein's job eventually included connecting internet circuits to a splitting cabinet that led to the secret room. During the course of that work, he learned from a co-worker that similar cabinets were being installed in other cities, including Seattle, San Jose, Los Angeles and San Diego.

"While doing my job, I learned that fiber optic cables from the secret room were tapping into the Worldnet (AT&T's internet service) circuits by splitting off a portion of the light signal," Klein wrote. The split circuits included traffic from peering links connecting to other internet backbone providers, meaning that AT&T was also diverting traffic routed from its network to or from other domestic and international providers, according to Klein's statement.

The secret room also included data-mining equipment called a Narus STA 6400, "known to be used particularly by government intelligence agencies because of its ability to sift through large amounts of data looking for preprogrammed targets," according to Klein's statement.

[bleever]

21. Lindbergh baby.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

And did you see the hybrid Bay-air? Wild, man.


:toast:

[Patsy Stone]

24. LOL

BTW The New York Times says that the voting machines might have problems. :rofl:

Oy. Soon, they will connect that stolen election to Rove, and then I'll be able to sleep again.

[Botany]

15. Snark!

1st day on the job for the future former press secretary.



melting snow!

[Berry Cool]

25. LOL! The "Banana Phone" song again!!!!

That cracks me up every time!

[Berry Cool]

28. Hats off to Patsela tonight, and Shabbat Shalom

What a great beginning to the thread!

[Botany]

30. Bleever Dams

[bleever]

32. Or is that, damn bleevers?

:scared:

[Patsy Stone]

31. Okay, I guess I really gotta do it...

I have to actually read about Scientology. And I suppose I have to read Dianetics, too. If I start giving money for churches and clay tables, come get me out of there. No matter how much I beg, or how much I plead. :eyes:

[ralps]

34. Will do Patsy

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[WolverineDG]

40. Not a problem over here, Pats

I've known that Scientology is a big scam forever. My dad read every form of sci-fi known to man, had a decades-long subscription to Asimov. He thought L Ron was full of it. He taught me well.

dg

[bleever]

43. I can tell you.

Fake religion, created by sci-fi writer, incorporating bits of and pieces of other religions and self-actualization techniques from client-centered psychotherapy, with little things that actually make you feel better if you've never had any exposure to such potentially positive techniques before, and structured in such a way as to maximize your dependence on the "church", while taking maximum advantage of its status as a religion to escape taxation, investigation, or regulation.

Stay. Away.

[SharonRB]

45. Run, Katie, Run

As fast as you can.

[Patsy Stone]

58. I know, I know

I should... But... Cults fascinate me. :)

[ralps]

33. Do we need to hear more about Scientology??? I say Hell No!!!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :grr:

[Botany]

37. Hold metal rods and tell people are secrets ....

..... Screw that ..... I just get Rev. Cheese to give me a blanket forgiveness
every 3 months ..... she works for

BTW Isn't that auditing just like confession in the Catholic Church?
Tell somebody your dirt so they can manipulate you.

[ralps]

41. It sure sounds that way to me, & maybe I'll have to ask RevCheesehead to

give me a blanket forgiveness every so often?? :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[WolverineDG]

42. Except no one keeps a record of what you confess

well, they're not supposed to anyway.

dg

[WolverineDG]

44. delete

[SharonRB]

46. She was one of my favorite Lily Tomlin characters

And that's the troof!

[WolverineDG]

48. Edith Ann!

Sorry, I moved my thread to be a reply to the main post, not my own. :hug:

dg

[SharonRB]

53. Another one of my favorites.

I loved everything Lily did on Laugh In. I also loved her one-woman show. Another Detroiter.

[Patsy Stone]

55. She rocks!

And now Randi's gonna be on! Wheee!

[CBHagman]

65. If you go to confession, make sure it's to Father Rivera.

George Carlin fans will know what I'm talking about. :evilgrin:'

Seriously, though, ever since I moved to this particular diocese, I've had nothing but good experiences with confession. I guess we have exceptionally cool priests. :shrug:

I do stay away from the scary conservative places, though. :scared:

[gkhouston]

68. were we not promised a week's reprieve from Tom Cruise bullshit

on Thursday evening? Keef: :spank: :spank: :spank:

[WolverineDG]

47. Is this the person to whom I am speaking?

I said it earlier today in another forum, but I would pay good money to see an Ernestine skit on the NSA phone/wiretapping scandal. I was just a young 'un, but I remember she was a riot about Nixon.

dg

[bleever]

49. Monica! Looking good, looking happy.

That's the way we like you.

:)

[Botany]

52. No kidding everbody likes their dogs more than their "others"

100% of the time they are glad to see you .... no human is ever like that.

[gkhouston]

69. boy, that segment was offensive

if you treat your boyfriends like pets, no wonder they run off. Try treating them like people for a change. :eyes:

[SharonRB]

50. Good luck with that whole recount thing

I'm sure it has as much chance as a recount in Ohio or Florida.

[ralps]

51. Today's Worst person in the world is.... Lauralee Medley for faking an

injury & getting up from her wheelchair. :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[SharonRB]

54. Have a great weekend and a Happy Mother's Day,

everyone. I'm off to watch Randi and Ed. Don't forget Madeline and Richard Clarke will be on Bill Maher tonight if you have HBO.

See you on Fitzmas!

[Berry Cool]

57. From your lips to God's ears!

Stay away from the $cientologi$t$ kids! They're just an effective means of parting rich people from their money and don't you forget it!

Have a great weekend, and to those who have moms still living or are moms...Happy Mothers' Day!

See you Tuesday...damn, wish Keith would do a live Countdown on Tuesday morning!

[Botany]

56. Whistle Blowers

:rofl:

[bleever]

59. Ed and Randi on Larry King right now.

Happy weekend, KOEBers!


:toast:

[Patsy Stone]

60. Watching

They're doing very well. :toast:

[bleever]

61. See here now:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1174134&mesg_id=1174134

:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

62. Been there...

done that... :)

Have I said, "Wheeeeeeee!" recently?

[bleever]

63. Just don't say "Wii".

Youch! Talk about marketing faux pas...pases...pas's...pas'...you know what I'm trying to say.

[Patsy Stone]

64. Faux pii?

Here's another: Say, WA? http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5353303

[bleever]

66. Reminds me of Yuma, AZ, who spent tons of dough to come up

with a slogan to encourage tourism.

The result?

"Come experience our fine sense of Yuma."



:rofl: