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AGENDA21 Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 08:30 AM
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Chavez Proposes South American Union
Caracas, Apr 22 (Prensa Latina) After its withdrawal from the Andean Community of Nations (CAN), Venezuela steps up its role in the Common Market of the South (MERCOSUR) as a step towards a South American Union.

While ratifying his country´s leaving of CAN for being ineffective after the signing of free trade agreements with the US by some of its members, President Hugo Chavez reiterated the pro-integration projection of his next steps.

An aspect clearly established in the concept of Venezuela´s foreign policy is that withdrawal from CAN is not an isolationist attempt, but rather reflects the criterion that the bloc has departed from the principle of cooperation.

In Chavez´ opinion, instead of looking for asymmetrical relations with the US, what the current situation demands is increased awareness on the importance of "a nation of republics" assumed by indigenous ancestors.

http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID=%7bBB6F54AC-96C2-46FD-A305-2F2F1DBA3091%7d)&language=EN
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 08:31 AM
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1. That would be a great start. I said before we need a North American Union
modeled after the EU.

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 09:14 AM
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2. Yeah..because we really need more globalism.
:puke:
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 10:03 AM
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5. Well globalism is not always bad...
it is the corporate globalism we must fight. I would take globalism over nationalism any day.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 11:02 AM
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6. Globalism and nationalism are not mutually exclusive
We can take care of our own and have fair trade and global justice at the same time.

The term "nationalism" has a negative associations for many, but just look at Chavez trading oil for doctors, buying off Argentina's debt, practically giving away fuel to the poor in the US, etc. At the same time he provides free healthcare, education and food to the poor in Venezuela. And now he wants to create a Latin American trade block. It's a first step toward another kind of globalization.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 11:21 AM
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7. It's a modern world. With good, ethical people in charge, good things can
come out of globalization. I don't oppose it at all. I think it's miraculous and astounding.

It IS happening. It is the future, and it's almost here. I would rather embrace it, and welcome it and make sure that the best things come from it, than refuse to believe it and let the bad guys take over and ruin it, destroy all the good things and ravage its potential.



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hansberrym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 11:37 AM
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8. How do you propose to prevent the "bad guys" from taking over?


Once a global government is in place and rule by philospher kings firmly established, what will prevent a slide into world tyranny?

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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:01 AM
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10. well, therein lies the problem. You've got a hitler-class leader now in
the USA, and it certainly wasn't from within that hitler was taken down. It took outside intervention to remove hitler.

The american people are too apathetic and dispossessed to come together to remove the bush regime. Voting is no longer a relevent manner in which to raise a voice, since it's now run by diebold. With the CA legislature firmly ramrodding diebold into place for the pending elections, California will now cheerfully deliver the state to the republicans, securing any needed votes for the future.

I realized 1.5 years ago that the USA will also need outside intervention to remove the bush regime. I've said for some time now that it will take NATO in the streets of DC to remove them. That's why I left the USA last year.

You're going to need a revolution.

That said, you can't stop globalization -- and you shouldn't. You must allow it to take place and be absolutely certain you protect the old, ancient and historic ways while moving ahead with technology. The most important part of advancing technology is to preserve the relics from the past. I speak specifically of the ancient civilizations still living deep in the jungles of south America. They're perhaps the greatest treasures in the hemisphere.

As far as the people go, to be charged with the preservation of integrity and ethics, you have some good people in positions of great potential for leadership and you'd best support and encourage them, in spite of the goings on of the nefarious criminals in charge at the moment. Keep Gore, Edwards, Kerry and Boxer as protected and close as you can. Encourage their patronage of Chavez and Castro. Castro is a visionary, and it's possible that the leaders who follow him will also shine as brightly. Chavez will rise to be a true hero of a generation. Those 6 people are who should be charged with bringing the continent into the new world.

Good luck.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 10:01 AM
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4. As if Canada and Mexico want to share US military costs.
Canada has already decided not to participate in a continent-wide ballistic missle system.

Moreover as the Arctic Sea is cleared of ice territorial claims on resource exploitation are going to emerge that make the US vs Canada as well as Canada vs EU competitors in that arena.

I think the notion of a North American Union reached its high water mark with NAFTA, and domestic US politics may soon turn NAFTA completely sour.


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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 09:48 AM
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3. Chavez is a very smart man.
If we believe in Unions then we must believe he is correct.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 11:53 AM
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9. sounds like a good counterbalancing influence
Edited on Sun Apr-23-06 11:55 AM by Douglas Carpenter
this is part of the reason why he's considered such a threat.



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