RW Xians grow “tired of ... problems associated with Bush administration”

[BurtWorm]

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/6f25d64a-da2a-11da-b7de-0000779e2340.html

According to Pew, 55 per cent of white evangelicals approve of Mr Bush, down from the start of his second term when he had 72 per cent approval ratings; 35 per cent have an unfavourable view of Mr Bush, against 21 per cent of evangelical voters in October 2004.

The percentage identifying with the Republican party increased in 2006, with 64 per cent of evangelicals saying they intended to vote Republican against 29 per cent for the Democrats.

The group also gives the party a higher approval rating with 59 per cent agreeing the Republicans do a good job, against 47 per cent from average Republicans. Rev Richard Cizik, of the National Association of Evangelicals, speaking yesterday at a debate on religion and the environment at the Center for American Progress, said: “Forty six per cent of the GOP are evangelicals. When evangelicals talks the GOP listens.”

In the immigration debate, for example, white evangelicals took the hardest line of any religious group towards immigrants, with 63 per cent agreeing that newcomers posed a threat to traditional American values, compared with 39 per cent of seculars.

[Booster]

1. Wonder if they have any idea how tired we are of their act.

[etherealtruth]

2. This group will never vote for a Dem ...

I do hope that their dissatisfaction with the Chimp and the evil cabal will make them stay home.

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. LOL! "Traditional American Values"

Pretty obvious these people have traditional American values confused with those traditional "Family" values.

[Warpy]

4. See? Every time you call a Calvinist on his unchristian BS

the light bulb goes on above the head of another fundy. <snicker>

You bet they're having second thoughts, but they're mainly fueled by gas prices, I'm afraid, combined with stagnant wages. People out there are hurting, and fundies are hurting right along with them. I'd like to take credit for part of the fundy awakening, but I can't. They're getting hammered and neither fundy god nor the little tin Jesus in the White House is saving them.

Don't expect to see any drop in gas prices until after the summer, beyond the few cents that will bring them to $2.80 in some parts of the country. We're headed for a big increase at the end of the month, and smaller increases through the summer, if past years are any indication.

Whetner or not Stupid can convince his oil buddies to sell at a loss this fall is anyone's guess. That's the only thing that would lull the idiots in this country into a false sense of economic security and allow them to vote the gang of thieves (both parties) back in.

[KittyWampus]

9. What's a Calvinist... and is he in relation to Hobbes... I am asking

seriously. Was Calvin a dogma person and Hobbes an experential person?

[noonwitch]

10. Funny

John Calvin was a prostestant reformer like Luther and Knox. Calvin differed from Luther in that he believed in predestination. Luther believed salvation was available to any and all who asked for it (which is what Jesus taught). Calvin believed that God has already chosen who will get in heaven and who won't, and that the signs of his chosen are observable in this life, i.e. a successful life, financially and otherwise.

It's very convenient for those without compassion to embrace that aspect of Calvin's teaching.

There is a college named for him in Grand Rapids, MI, that is run by the very conservative Christian Reformed Church (the dutch reformed, as my dad would say). I would say that most CRC members don't believe in the whole predestination thing, because they are out trying to get converts too often to take that too seriously. They are also pretty generous to the poor in their midst. But women can't be ordained as ministers.

I'll bet Dick Devos takes the predestination thing fairly seriously, though. I've seen some of those Amway recruiting videos "God wants you to be rich, God wants you to sell Amway products".

[KittyWampus]

11. Calvinism sounds a lot like a religious version of Darwinism

or the philosophy of "survival of the fittest".

[Warpy]

13. Hobbes described the life of primitive man as

"nasty, brutish and short." The Calvinists are trying to return most of us to just that type of life.

[stepnw1f]

5. "Values"... They Have No Sense of Value

nevermind historical precendence for "traditional". These fuck nuts just make stuff up as they go... then again most insane people do.

[warrens]

6. I heard one of those fundies on NPR a while back

Screeching that the illegals should be kicked out of the country and thrown in jail and all for defying our laws but (*sob*) WHO WOULD PICK MY STRAWBERRIES???

Greed trumping hate. It must be tough being a fundie and having those two emotions struggling with each other 24/7.

[acmavm]

7. Tough shit, he belongs to them. They inflicted the SOB on

all of us.

[AX10]

8. We need to get the American voters out to counter this group

because they (Evangelicals) will never vote for Democrats.

[slide to the left]

12. Thats how I became a dem

Don't know why I was not always one though. I have believed in socialism since 8th grade.