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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 06:19 PM Original message |
CDC recommends routine HIV tests: no informed consent or pretest counsel |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. If you knew you had HIV.... |
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NobleCynic (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. Frankly, |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 07:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. 'doctor-patient confidentiality should still apply right?' |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 07:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. What states require the reporting of names? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Privacy laws are only as strong as the legislatures' will to uphold them. |
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NobleCynic (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 11:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
42. At the least I think it is in the public interest |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 11:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. But why is HIV at the top of the list? |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
3. The CDC recommendations include informed consent. What they |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 07:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yes, people should know their status. |
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meow2u3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Even the sexually abstinent and monogamous should be tested |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. However the decision to be tested should rest with the individual |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 10:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. Patient has the option to decline the testing, right? |
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NobleCynic (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 11:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. From what they say yes, |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 12:26 AM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Do they know they are being tested for HIV? |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 12:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
50. Transmission is still misunderstood. |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. Names don't go to the CDC. Not for AIDS or any other reportable |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 09:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I do not completely trust this goverment right now. |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. Seems fine to me, always seemed odd getting asked if it was ok... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Of course it's not OK. |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Exactly. And why do they only stop with HIV? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
8. This isn't a good move |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. So many people still don't know the difference between HIV |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
12. In the early 90's, my grandmother had an HIV test while in a coma |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. We are supposed to treat everyone as potential HIV due to lag time |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Medical personnel DO take universal precautions |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. What does spitting have to do with anything? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. It has nothing to do with anything |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I was just curious about some of the things you said in your post. |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
19. if only we had done this years ago... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. 'There is no "right" to spread deadly diseases' |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. testing is part of it |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. So how will you determine which of 1 million Americans you will quarantine |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Quarantine? That was GHWB's proposal while he was VP. |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 09:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. quarantine is a reasonable measure to take with some individuals... |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 09:39 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. HIV is not spread by coughing, like TB. What other individuals would you |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. that "not spread by coughing" argument is just covert moralism |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 12:11 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Cough...I'm co-infected with TB and HIV. Guess what I just gave you? |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 12:39 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. I was addressing your original retarded argument that we |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Your argument is flawed |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. If AIDS hadn't originally been pegged a "Gay Plague" |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. I don't see how she proposes to quarantine millions. |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I acknowledge that concern, but that was still no excuse... |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 10:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. You're right about stigma except for one thing. |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
35. Back in 1996 I was tested for HIV without my consent. |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 10:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. That's disgusting. |
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poppet (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 01:18 AM Response to Reply #35 |
53. Routine in pregnancy |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
38. There is no such thing as "the AIDS virus". |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 11:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. And Jack, I purposefully changed the headline in th OP for here |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 11:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. No problems with your banner. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 01:02 AM Response to Reply #40 |
51. We *are* good. |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. And, buddy, I've agreed with everything you've said so far. |
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NobleCynic (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
46. After reading through all the posts up to this point |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 01:05 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. "Are there any circumstances...separating out individuals..." |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 02:11 AM Response to Original message |
54. I am tested for HIV every two weeks |
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