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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:32 AM
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Bush on NSA phone snooping: "We will do so within the laws of our country"
Edited on Thu May-11-06 12:05 PM by bigtree
It's not clear if he's saying he followed the law or . . .

Is he saying that he acted out of the FALSE authority he got from the 9-11 authorization?

Sounds like the latter. Sounds like he's out on the same limb on this as the rest of the illegal spying on Americans.

WHAT LAWS DID HE FOLLOW!?

Looks like he's saying he gave the authorization for the NSA to BREAK the law and that made it lawful.

SAME LIE. Same illegal spying ruse.

He followed the laws like he's followed all the rest of them, BY NOT FOLLOWING THEM, bending them for his own purposes, throwing the constitution in the wastebasket.

Treason. Tyrant's reign with a timid opposition and a compliant Congress.


Here's a collection of reports about NSA phone snooping from Electronic Frontier Foundation
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:35 AM
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1. Phew! I feel SO much better....
although ABC News just sent me this alert:

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

BUSH: WIRETAPPING 'STRICTLY TARGETS AL QAEDA SUSPECTS ONLY,' SAYS THE 'PRIVACY OF ORDINARY AMERICANS IS FIERCELY PROTECTED'



http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396

Doesn't that make you feel better, too? He's fiercely protecting our privacy. That's hard work!!!!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:40 AM
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3. the CNN shill declared that the spying saved us from another attack
If we just bend over a little further . . .?

world peace. I swear.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:44 AM
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5. If they really have a database of ALL phone calls
You think by now they would have figured out who sent the anthrax to members of the press and congress?

You know, the military grade anthrax that only a handful of people have access to?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:46 AM
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7. they did figure it out, that's why they quieted down the investigation
all roads led back to the military
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 12:06 PM
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10. I think they knew from the begining
and had no interest in any investigation leading anywhere
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:47 AM
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8. Oh, gee willikers, did they say which ONE?
Oops! I forgot, that would be classified information, unless there is an election just around the corner.

What I'd like to know is the number of terra-ists they've caught through this mega-technical-secret-you're fired if you tell method they aren't using against the common Joe-six-pack.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 12:19 PM
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11. what can they possibly learn?
Edited on Thu May-11-06 12:19 PM by bigtree

O'BRIEN: All right, the amount of data here is truly staggering, and I'm sure that the NSA has some of the finest supercomputers on the planet. But what are they able to do when they put all those phone numbers and all of those records into the computer? What can they possibly learn?

CAULEY: Well, only the NSA knows that for sure and they are not saying. But certainly with this aggregated mass of data, they can slice and dice this a multitude of ways and you cross-check it with other databases, other information, they would have access to, which is considerable, and, again, secret. There's no telling. But that -- that is a question.

O'BRIEN: Do you know if there have been specific investigations or arrests, for that matter, that have been generated by this data?

CAULEY: I do not know for sure. I have not been able to determine that.

O'BRIEN: All right. And as far as we know, how long has this been going on?

CAULEY: Since at least -- since at least 2001, with the 9/11 attacks. Possibly the groundwork was laid prior to that. But certainly since 2001.


CNN's Miles O'Brien spoke Thursday with Lesley Cauley, the USA Today reporter who broke the story.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/11/cauley/index.html
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:39 AM
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2. Remember "One end of the communication must be outside the United States"
Edited on Thu May-11-06 11:40 AM by kurth
- George W. Bush.

"This is not about intercepting conversations between people in the United States, this is hot pursuit of communications entering or leaving America involving someone we believe is associated with al Qaeda."
- Gen. Michael Hayden

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:44 AM
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4. I didn't really hear an explanation of the spying. Just be assured it was
Edited on Thu May-11-06 11:44 AM by bigtree
"within the laws of our country"
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:45 AM
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6. that is easy to arrange
just route a lot of call through Canada, then back into the US.

There you have it!
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:50 AM
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9. Lying dogs.
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