History Channel

[RufusEarl]

Did anyone happen to watch the History Channel last night? They ran a piece about Iran, and i swear it came straight from the WH propaganda dept.

It laid out all the reasons why this country can not allow Iran to have nuclear weapons, and it showed footage of the Iraq Iran war during the 80's.

As far as propaganda goes it was very effective, hell it had me ready to go to war by the time it was over.

Just wondering if anyone else happened to have watched the program, and if it had any effect on how they viewed Iran.

[tjwash]

1. It's been all-war all-week on the HC.

When they have not been doing the Iran thing, they have been showing how mighty, and large our weapons are. What do you expect from the channel that aired "bush for president" commercials incessantly?

[AlCzervik]

2. wow they took a night from Hitler? Typical history channel programming.

[One_Life_To_Give]

3. Taliban

They had a piece on last night about the Taliban.
Pointed out that we are partly to blame for conditions that lead to their coming to power. And that basically we can not control Afganistan only the Afganis can do that.

[noonwitch]

4. Iran shouldn't be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon

I just don't think invading them is the best way to deal with it.

[DainBramaged]

6. Here's a thought, the "World Powers" have nukes

And Boosh is threatening them with nukes, should they be submissive to our madman?

[RaleighNCDUer]

9. "Allowed" is not a relevant word.

We cannot "allow" or "disallow" sovereign nations anything. We can encourage or discourage, we can assist or hinder, we can object or not object, we can even impose sanction or not impose sanction, to try to direct their decisions but for us to "allow" would be for us to make their decisions for them and we have neither the legal or moral authority to do so.

Why, by the way, should they not have the weapons anyway? Because they threaten Israel? It's generally accepted that Israel has between 30 and 300 nukes, though it does not officially acknowledge having any. I suspect a lower number because Israel has enough financial difficulties without pouring hundreds of millions into an unproductive weapons system - perhaps 10 nukes. Which means if Iran attacked Israel with nukes Israel could wipe out better than a third of Iran's population in a matter of twenty minutes. Think Iran doesn't know that?

And what would Iran bomb? Jerusalem? The third holiest city in Islam, from which the Prophet ascended? Any target in Israel would result in more Palestinian and Arab deaths than Israeli deaths because the resulting fallout would have to land on Arab lands - Israel is too small for it to land anywhere else.

It was *'s hardline stance, his inclusion of Iran in the "Axis of Evil", and his war in Iraq and slammed the Iranian ayatollahs back into power just when the reformists were making some headway there. Now his 'fear, fear' campaign about the mythical Iranian bomb is pulling out the same talking points they used in justifying the attack on Iraq.

We need to get a grip here, and try some real diplomacy.

[DainBramaged]

5. I saw that, I thought the EXACT same thing

I guess HC needs some cahs.

[Coexist]

7. The History Channel has become Fox's step-child.

I can't watch it anymore.

[MadHound]

8. I hear you.

I was a long time fan of the History Channel, but somewhere along the line, about five years ago or so:think: they really started becoming a propaganda tool. This also about the same time that the other education channels, Discovery, TLC, etc., started changing their format to include crap like American Chopper, Trading Spaces, etc. Dreck all!

I rarely tune any of those channels in any more, in fact if it wasn't for sports, I would probably get rid of my TV altogether, as little as I watch anymore. Once in a great while there's a decent program on, but most the time these education shows are loaded with factual errors, or are just pure propaganda.

[Halliburton]

10. I liked the Crusades special that was on a few months ago

I thought that was really good. But most of the stuff that they've been airing lately has not been that great.

I also have had it with the Discvery Channel. National Geographic is better.

[MadHound]

13. Mmeh, I wasn't all that hopped up about the Crusades

I watched it, but mainly for the ironical laugh value. See, I'm very well read in history, and I've studied medievel history and the Crusades, and though I can't recall specifics right now, I do remember that I wasn't impressed with the historical accuracy it portrayed. In fact that's one of the few reasons why I tune in anymore, to see how badly they got it wrong.

[leftofthedial]

11. The Hitler Channel is quite cooperative with the bush crime gang's

propaganda needs

they helped to demonize Saddam when that was needed

they revived the Desert Storm rah rah crap when that was needed

they cheerlead for more and more and more powerfully destructive weapons systems

they are especially good at demonizing whoever is the current target of the crime gang's lust for power

[theHandpuppet]

12. History Channel: History = War

That's about all the HC consists of these days -- war and weapons, with the occasional Bible-themed program.

[mtnsnake]

14. Slightly off topic, but my cable company took away my National Geographic

channel last week, which was just about the only channel, besides Discovery, that was worth watching from time to time. We called them up about it, and they said we could still get it, but only if we bought their digital programming package. Assholes.

[annabanana]

15. I'll bet they didn't talk about the Shah that we stuck in there

on the Peacock Throne to throw out their elected government back in the 50's, did they?

[RaleighNCDUer]

16. Think the HC will ever do a one-hour show about the

Teapot Dome scandal?

In all the war programming, will they ever look at the covert war against Nicaragua, the funding of the Contras, the mining of Nicaraguan waters when we were not at war with that country?

How about a two-hour examination of US involvement in Haiti, from 1865 to the present?