Verizon Wireless did NOT turn over numbers to nsa?

[orleans]

i just called to find out when my contract was up--and the woman i spoke to said that verizon WIRELESS did not turn over info.

i doubted that, but i googled and found this :

"Verizon Wireless spokesman Jeffrey Nelson definitively said his company — a joint venture between Verizon and Britain's Vodafone (VOD) — was "not involved in this situation." His counterparts at Cingular — an AT&T/BellSouth joint venture — and Sprint Nextel Corp. (S) were less explicit and did not deny any participation."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,195205,00.html

i told her that verizon wireless should contact the press and have them correct this because it was my impression from the usa article that it included verizon wireless.

anyone else know anything on this, one way or the other?

[northzax]

1. don't need to

wireless calling histories are, in essence, publically avaliable already. For $50, I can get a list of everyone you talked to last year...

[wtmusic]

5. Where does the list come from?

Has the NSA set up "secret rooms" at Verizon to intercept all communications, as they have at ATT?

How the NSA is able to collect the information is important--whether it is logged and analyzed automatically, or whether they actually have to hunt it down.

[northzax]

6. as a general rule of thumb

assume that anything that is transmitted over airwaves is picked up by the NSA.

[wtmusic]

7. Do you have a source for that? nt

[northzax]

8. yeah, it's what the NSA does

electronic surveillance. they basically suck everything out of the air. it's what they do.

[sutz12]

2. Fox news = spin

[MADem]

3. Yeah, but if you had a Verizon landline, bend over!

And as another poster noted, cell records are easy to get.

[katty]

4. i have Verizon, they should do a major press release NOW

[orleans]

9. that's what i told the girl i talked to

because i was under the impression that verizon wireless was doing this shit too. if they're not--they need the press to clairfy it. because i am on the verge of switching companies--but if the wireless isn't doing it then i guess i'll stay with verizon for my cell phones.

[Sgent]

10. It shouldn't matter

just because a subsidiary didn't commit the sins of the company this time -- you are still supporting the profits and activities of the owner.

Its equivalent to saying that even though your pharmacist refuses to fill birth control -- you'll continue to use him for all your needs except birth control.

[orleans]

11. actually--that's what i said to the woman i spoke to...

(not the part about birth control & pharmacies--but the part about still being a part of a company who is doing this.... she kept saying the wireless part isn't doing it.)

whatever....