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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:19 PM Original message |
Musings of a middle-class poor person |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. When you start getting the bills |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. That's why the title of my post read the way it did |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. I hear ya |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
45. That's crazy and scary |
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BeTheChange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:08 AM Response to Reply #3 |
42. Threaten to file for bankruptcy and offer to settle for way less.. |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
67. wow transportation costs of 18k are really high!!! |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-18-06 11:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
86. Both myself and my wife are self employed |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-19-06 12:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
91. I had my own business and health insurance |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. Thanks for pointing this out. |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. There is hope on the way...I am working with a congressional group |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. That's sounds great |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. The website is not up yet I think. Right now we are working on |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Idaho politicians are all Republicans, but... |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Well this year I think we have people running everywhere... |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. I've checked the Idaho Dem web site, but found nothing |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Oh! I meant that your state party would have links (in theory) to |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Found 'em! |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:10 AM Response to Reply #32 |
48. I sent an email to Larry Grant |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 07:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
66. I sent the plan I wrote out for Nov. Vic. yesterday to the list serv so |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. Well, several points need to be made. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Actually, we don't need single-payer...just universal coverage. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. We need SINGLE PAYER |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 11:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
38. I disagree...there's a way to incorporate them constructively. |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:14 AM Response to Reply #18 |
49. Are you currently working in the medical field, Warpy? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:54 AM Response to Reply #16 |
46. We need single payer |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:43 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Rather than just bemoan the state of the system, why not look for a way |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:54 AM Response to Reply #16 |
54. Except that the private insurers will refuse to insure sick people |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. They won't have a choice. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 09:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. Then they will just jack up the rates to cover their exhorbitant profits |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 08:01 AM Response to Reply #71 |
78. Those increases will be absorbed by the government for those that need it. |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. I get your point |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. "A volunteer was told, "give the patient a children's aspirin?" |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. It wasn't a Candy Striper, if that's what you're thinking |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-18-06 01:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
83. This worries me |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. "monitoring you for adverse reactions" |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:17 AM Response to Reply #29 |
50. LOL - that's funny. |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. Wait until you get the $196 bottle of Flonase! |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thank doctors and the insurance lobby. - n/t |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I don't think doctor's are to blame |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Doctors blame patient lawsuits for high doctor bills. |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. I ask doctors who tell me that to watch the stock market and see if |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. Doctors who refuse to see patients are to blame |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
8. do you ever watch cspan when they have the senate or house on |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Democrats controlled both the Senate and House for decades |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:23 AM Response to Reply #23 |
51. We got Medicare, Medicaid and SCHIP |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 09:57 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. None of those help me |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. I don't either |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-18-06 01:00 AM Response to Reply #51 |
82. They are actually planning on some to die |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'm so sorry this happened to you. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
13. I'm all for national healthcare. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
15. You've hit on my pet issue...the one that means the absolute most to me. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
24. battle on for universal healthcare! You now have incentive! |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
26. Universal health care is a no-brainer, thanks |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
27. Deleted message |
jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. We all pay taxes. |
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adriennui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. i hope you forgot the sarcasm logo |
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Robbie Michaels (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
35. K&R |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
36. I wanted to buy into a subsidized national health plan |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:29 AM Response to Reply #36 |
43. That's the way I've been feeling lately |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. I took a different route |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:57 AM Response to Reply #36 |
55. We can't afford to subsidize private insurance company profit |
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Daphne08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:02 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Yep. n/t |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Thank you for letting me die |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 09:41 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. It it the insistence on profit that is killing you |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 02:28 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. No, its the unwillingness to compromise, |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 06:19 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Yes, the government does the heavy hauling |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 06:41 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. That's how we take care of everybody |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-18-06 12:00 AM Response to Reply #76 |
81. Those who have the bells and whistles now don't NEED subsidies |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
39. Somebody has to pay for those 3 million dollar homes and country |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 01:11 AM Response to Original message |
40. National health care |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:41 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I don't know why we aren't all rioting in the streets |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 10:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
72. I understood what you meant |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-19-06 12:33 AM Response to Reply #44 |
92. I understand |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
41. Good post... |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:02 AM Response to Original message |
47. yours is the most widespread serious problem in America |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 09:51 AM Response to Reply #47 |
57. I supported Hillary's plan |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 11:44 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Abso-friggin-lutely, neither Democrats nor Republicans are |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. I blame Dems who are in the pockets of insurance companies |
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4_TN_TITANS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
59. Just one medical disaster away..... |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-19-06 12:44 AM Response to Reply #59 |
94. we don't |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
61. Universal Healthcare NOW |
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StellaBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
68. Can I quote this in my blog? |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-18-06 11:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
87. Go right ahead. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
69. Remember during the 2003 primary debates |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 02:35 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. He was for single payer health care |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 08:05 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Exactly! |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
77. I'm in the back of your boat. No insurance and no hope of being |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
80. If you make enough to pay taxes, THERE IS NO SAFETY NET... |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-18-06 01:59 AM Response to Reply #80 |
84. it took me a long time to understand this... |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-18-06 11:57 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. That's one of the saddest stories I've heard in a long time |
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Tracyjo (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-18-06 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
85. Do whatever you can do not to go to an ER! |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-18-06 11:43 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Sometimes it is necessary |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-19-06 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
90. I'm with YOU! op |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-19-06 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
93. without insurance you have no contract |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-19-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. That's complete and total bullshit |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-19-06 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
95. My wife has.. |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-19-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Don't tell me that |
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