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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:00 AM
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Email from Freeper and my response
Edited on Wed May-17-06 10:19 AM by stop the bleeding
Below is an email I just go from someone who does work for the company that I work for, the first part is theirs(which was in all red fonts), the second part is mine(which has already been sent). I usually ignore these things but this one just set me off. Let me know how I did, also everything said in it is true as far as my family and all. Let me know if there is something that could be done better in case I need to do this again, or better yet in case I need to respond to their reply.




----- Original Message -----
From: XXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:03 AM
Subject: Fw: Red Friday


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Red Friday

Just keeping you "in the loop" so you'll know what's going on in case this takes off.

RED FRIDAYS ----- Very soon you will see a great many people wearing Red every Friday. The reason? Americans who support our troops used to be called the "silent majority". We are no longer silent, and are voicing our love for God, country and home in record breaking numbers. We are not organized, boisterous or over-bearing. We get no liberal media coverage on TV to reflect our message or our opinions.

Many Americans, like you, me and all our friends, simply want to recognize that the vast majority of America supports our troops. Our idea of showing solidarity and support for our troops with dignity and respect starts this Friday and continues each and every Friday until the troops all come home, sending a deafening message that.. Every red-blooded American who supports our men and women afar will wear something red

By word of mouth, press, TV -- let's make the United States on every Friday a sea of red much like a homecoming football game in the bleachers. If every one of us who loves this country will share this with acquaintances, co-workers, friends, and family it won't be long before the USA is covered in RED and it will let our troops know that the once "silent" majority is on their side more than ever, certainly more than the media lets on.

The first thing a soldier says when asked "What can we do to make things better for you?" is...We need your support and your prayers. Let's get the word out and lead with class and dignity, by example, and wear something red every Friday.

IF YOU AGREE -- THEN SEND THIS ON

IF YOU COULDN'T CARE LESS THEN HIT THE DELETE BUTTON --- IT IS YOUR CHOICE. WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE.

THEIR BLOOD RUNS RED---- SO WEAR RED! --- MAY GOD HELP AMERICA TO BECOME ONE NATION, UNDER GOD.

HAVE A GREAT DAY!



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Here is my reply

Both of my parents are retired active duty Army. My grandfather served in WWII, he also was an engineer for GM in which he ended up drawing up plans for the Catalytic Converter found on most cars. My family is from the Midwest. So when it comes to Mom, Apple Pie and the Stars and Stripes you won't find anyone more patriotic than me.

They(my retied Active Duty parents) like the rest of our elected officials when they took their oaths, swore by placing their hand on the Bible to up hold the Constitution of the United States of America, they did not swear by placing their hands upon the Constitution of the United States in order to uphold the Bible.

As for supporting our troops I have sent care packages which they badly need see here: www.anysoldier.com whenever I am able. In addition to this I have sent care packages for the Iraqi's hopefully it will make up for the 100,000 - 150,000 that we have killed so far in the name of WMD,s, Iraqi Freedom or whatever the talking point is this month. As a Christian I always wonder who would Jesus bomb? Furthermore, I feel that these support/care packages would not be needed if the Liberal Media did their job, which was to make this War and it's lead up a platform for good open discourse. Instead they published countless false reports about WMD's on behalf of the current Administration. - see Judy Miller NYT. To further underscore this carrying the water for the Administration - see James Risen - NYT holding NSA domestic spying story for more than a year, which if it had been released when they got it would have been sometime in the fall of 2004. The job of the media according to our founding fathers is to act as another form of check and balance on the Government, not to serve up softballs or to go along with whatever talking points that are coming out of DC at the time.

I appreciate and applaud any effort in supporting our troops, but anyone who feels this strongly about it should go down to their local recruiting station and volunteer, and if they can't then maybe they have a family member that can and shares the same views. The best way to support our troops while keeping America safe is to get their butts home yesterday.


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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:02 AM
Response to Original message
1. Well, I'm going to wear my pearls on Wednesdays...
in support of the soldiers, I'm sure that will make a big difference! Who's with me?

:silly:
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:02 AM
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2. Red is Commie Color
Commies!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:04 AM
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3. Should we be calling Lloyd, Gray & Whitehead, PC?
And let them know of the violation of their e-mail system by one of their employees? I mean...that footnote is pretty clear! ;)
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:06 AM
Original message
Should I take that out?? n/t
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:09 AM
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7. Ummm, yeah....n/t
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. done - I wasn't sure
I guess when in doubt leave it out - thank you
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:06 AM
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4. Well, that's not going to go over well here in the Midwest
Chiefs fans wear red every Friday and have for a long while, in order to show their support for the Chiefs. Dumb freepers try that shit out here, and everybody will just think that they're another fan:shrug:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #4
21. or fans of the Cornhuskers
Georgia Bulldogs, Ohio State, the list goes on
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:07 AM
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5. Just another chain letter.
I'm sure all of the people who randomly wear red on friday (What, a 1/7 probability for this?) will be cited as proof this demented little scheme succeeded.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #5
10. Gay people are supposed to wear red shirts at Disney World / Disney Land
Edited on Wed May-17-06 10:12 AM by IanDB1
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:08 AM
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6. If I beat the crap out of a Freaker
and get blood on my shirt...does that count?
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #6
9. Only if it's a Steeler fan.
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:12 AM
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12. LOL! cool. (nt)
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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:14 AM
Response to Reply #6
13. i dont own a red suit
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:12 AM
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11. Someone called them the silent majority?
When was that? Flashed right by me unnoticed?

They get no Liberal Media coverage? That dang'd LM again! Why don't they give a shout to O'Rialy, the sex offender, I bet he would put them on. Why do they expect a Liberal anything to promote their craziness? sheesh .

I recognize the vast majority of Americans support our troops. I would wager, near 100% support our troops. I also recognize that about 70% would like to support them being at peace. Anyone?
If I see someone show up on Fridays repeatedly wearing 'red', I may just have to assume they love being at war. And have no real clue as regards reality.

Finally, please speak personally to the soldiers. If the first thing they want is support and prayers, what is second? Third? Like coming home?

When red means the 'war' is over and we get to return to sanity, I'll wear it. For now, it's a boycott.

BTW, I think your family sounds great.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:17 AM
Response to Reply #11
15. No, the media don't cover them!
It must be true, because I heard John Gibson say it. And Rush Limbaugh. And George Will. And Joe Scarborough. And Michelle Malkin. And William Bennett. And Ann Coulter. And Tim Russert. And Stephen Colbert. And George Stephanopoulos.

Nope, not a peep about supporting the war anywhere at any time in the media anywhere. Hard to understand how this war ever got started in the first place, seeing as how nobody wanted it.
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Spangle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 01:57 PM
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22. THey call themselfs that.
Yet, they scream it on TV stations that they own. At the Church steps every chance they get. Etc, Etc, Blah, Blah, Blah..

They just don't understand why MORE are not standing with them, since they are the 'Majority'. So they think it's a 'silent' maojority. People are just not speakin gout about their 'issues.'

THe reality is, they are a MINORITY in every shape and form. In their thoughts, that is. IT's delusionism that makes them think they are a majority. They look at the the national census and see that 'christian' is listed as the National Majority religan. They think that means that the MAJORITY of Americans have the same religus View point. And that view point matches THEIR OWN PERSONAL view point. That is false on 3 accounts.

1) On the census, people chose the religan they 'relate' to. As in culture. Their parents considered themselfs XXX, so they are to. IT doesn't mean they are a pacticing XXX or even that they have EVER attended XXX. Hence, the 'Majority' is an actual false claim.

2) They claim that they are 'silent' because they are 'unheard' and don't publicly speak out. Hmmm.. We are talking about a group that actually OWNS many TV stations, newspapers, mags, etc. Can have a brain fart, and the world know about it in 24 hours. It's the ONLY group (minority or majority) besides NATIONAL GOVERNMENTS that can do this. They meet at least weekly, watch/read their own media to enforce thier 'beliefs', etc.. Very structured to get the 'word' out. And the 'word' is more then their religus beliefs. Hardly 'Silent' at all.

3) Simliar to number 1. However, in considering just the active 'Christians', they include all the groups who consider themselfs christians. Another words.. they see the word 'christian' and consider that THAT Christian has the (exact same worldly/political/ etc) view point as they do. Which, is a totaly false thought. Various Church groups do NOT whold the same worldly/political/etc view point as each other. Example, the roles of WOMEN. Or the ABORTION ISSUE. etc.

WIth that being said, the group that considers themself the 'silent majority' who attends churches who advocates such crazy noations as (God hates Homsexuals) and believes that (God condones inhuman behavor towards homosexuals) and that they should fight against homosexuality as if it's a holy war... And they believe points 1,2,3.. they actualy believe that IF a person IS a Christian, that person BELIEVES the same doctorine on Homsexuality. And in their stupidity they think that the census numbers showing how many consider themselfs 'Christians' relfect how many hold the same religus belief they do about homosexuality. Since that number don't scream, shout, show up in the streets, attack homosexuals.... THey must be 'silent' in their beliefs. Or being prevented from speaking out, etc.

I used homosexuality in that statement. But you can use any number of religus ideas and it would be the same point. And it also explains why they feel so 'free' to express their views in spam e-mails, at the office, at social events, etc. Because they have been told that their VIEWS are the majority. Any one who speaks differently, are just seen as a minority thought and everyone else (who are being quiet because they are embarrassed at the stupidity and not wanting to make it worse) who are quiet are agreeing with their MAJORITY VIEW.

Since they ARE a minority, they will run into a huge number of people who don't agree with them. When their words are treated as an actual ISSUE TO BE DISCUSSED RATINALY, they feel they are being attacked. An orginzied attack to make them silent. Silent like the rest of the so called 'majority.' The attacker is automaticly classifed as non-christian and part of the Anti-christ movement. Hence, built in blinders go into effect.

The silent majority is a myth. A PR stunt and used to help a minority group keep going forward against all negativity.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:14 AM
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14. Send them to the front to get shot at. Tell them to enlist now and go.
Let's see how much longer they wear red.
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:19 AM
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16. To me... Supporting The Troops means sending them body armor....
Armor for their Humvees. Not allowing this administration to give them MRI's that have expired "Use by Dates" over a year old. Not paying contractors to give the troops rancid water.

Anyone who isn't doing EVERYTHING possible to change the above mentioned NON SUPPORT is just an
unpatriotic jackass. And wearing red or sticking a yellow ribbon sticker on your car has not saved the lives of one single soldier.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:21 AM
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17. I'm sure this will help the troops as much as the yellow ribbons.
Another worthless, meaningless gesture of support for the troops this administration is abusing. I'm so sick of these assholes and their phony patriotism. They don't support the troops. They support Bush. They give a crap about the troops.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:27 AM
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18. From Snopes
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/redfriday.asp

Origins: As with other schemes intended to create a demonstration of soldarity or support for a particular group through some type of visible display, there is no truth or falsity to be uncovered here. If people participate in the suggested activity, it's real — demonstrations need not be "officially" organized or sanctioned to be symbolic and meaningful.

The only question is how effective the proposed scheme is for its purpose, and one of the drawbacks to this type of display is that it involves something perhaps a bit too ordinary. Red clothing is not uncommon, so if the participation level is not high enough to create the suggested "sea of RED," how does one distinguish participants from those who have merely donned red garb by coincidence (or because they're Nebraska Cornhusker fans)? A better scheme might be to don something one wouldn't normally wear (such as a badge) or a distinctive color combination, although these methods might also have the shortcoming of being less visible at a distance. And for some people simply wearing red as a demonstration of support may be a source of satisfaction in itself, whether or not others recognize the gesture or do so as
well.

Any demonstrative venture along these lines is, by nature, a symbolic one. There are also plenty of programs through which one can make a functional gesture of support for our troops by sending them supplies, books, or even encouraging messages. We hope that some of our readers might look into these programs as well.

Last updated: 23 June 2005
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:32 AM
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19. Brown might be a better color shirt for them to wear ~ as far as
supporting the troops unless they're on their way over there to provide extra firepower for the war they so believe in, this is empty talk.

Randy Rhodes had one of them backed into a corner on the LK Show this week. Like all war supporting young Republicans, past and present, he tried to get away with the claim that he's serving his country by sitting at home telling everyone to 'support the troops'. For the first time on National Television, the question was asked 'why aren't you in the military'?

During the Clinton administration when the rightwing made such an issue of being in the military, I thought for years that all these war and military supporters, like Rush L. O'Reilly et al, had served, because no one ever challenged them. I was stunned to find out that not one of them had ever served and had in fact 'fought hard' to AVOID serving.

Thanks to Randy Rhodes for finally exposing the hypocrisy. The little war monger was made to look like the foolish hypocrite he is for all the world to see. Had Democrats done that a long time ago, we might not be where we are today.

Good letter, but don't expect to reach through the cult-like indoctrination this rightwinger has been exposed to. They all need to be seriously deprogrammed after over 15 years of subjection to propaganda. Good for you though, for trying. You never know when a light might go on in one of their heads.
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ktlyon Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:45 AM
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20. This is an inappropriate e-mail. Hopefully management was unaware.
Someone needs to have a talk with this person. If someone in the future can point to not wearing red as a reason for not being promoted it could be a lawsuit. Management needs to nip this in the bud, since it is out, a big stink could be made if it is party based already.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 03:07 PM
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23. On the bible?

There weren't any bibles around when I was sworn into military service.


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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 03:58 PM
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24. UPDATED REPSONSE
Edited on Wed May-17-06 03:58 PM by stop the bleeding

----- Original Message -----
From: ********
To: ******

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: Red Friday


yes i agree with you. i was just forwarding an email that had been forwarded to me.
i didnt actually realize i had even sent it to you..i apologize if this was an inconvenience



******
MY REPLY:

No need to apologize, I posted it on a message board for people to take a look at what is going around the internets.

Thank you
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