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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:35 AM
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Elderly Iowa Woman Has 'Do Not Resuscitate' Tattooed On Chest
Elderly Iowa Woman Has 'Do Not Resuscitate' Tattooed On Chest

Medical Experts Doubt Inking Is Legally Binding In Court

POSTED: 2:26 pm EDT May 16, 2006
UPDATED: 3:10 pm EDT May 16, 2006

DECORAH, Iowa -- An 80-year-old Iowa woman has made her final wishes perfectly clear -- it's in ink on her chest.

Mary Wohlford of Decorah has a living will and has told her family her wishes if she's incapacitated. Now, she spelled it out with a tattoo that says: "DO NOT RESUSCITATE.''

Her decision is raising legal issues. Some medical and legal experts said they doubt the tattoo would be binding in the emergency room or in court.

Decorah's Bob Cowie, chairman of the Iowa Bar Association's probate and trust law section, suggested that people sign a living will or authorize a medical power of attorney.

http://www.local6.com/news/9225454/detail.html

Interesting...
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:36 AM
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1. Let's hope for her sake that the reason she needs resuscitating
Edited on Wed May-17-06 11:36 AM by DS1
in the first place isn't due to being caught in a fire, which burns over her DNR tattoo.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:37 AM
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2. "Medical Experts Doubt Inking Is Legally Binding In Court"
Well how can "they" determine what her wishes really were? :sarcasm:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:38 AM
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3. They're experts, she ain't :)
Or So they believe.

I think it comes down to though - is a person able to reasonably communitcate in an emergency, and if the medic does not try will he/she get sued for not trying to save her life.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:44 AM
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5. I'm sure Bill Frist knows.
;-)
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:00 PM
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15. !
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:43 AM
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4. Awesome!
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:48 AM
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6. It might hold up, if properly countersigned and witnessed
Edited on Wed May-17-06 11:53 AM by TechBear_Seattle
I just spoke to a notary in my office. She said that, under Washington State law, it would be valid if properly witnessed and signed in the presence of a notary public, who then signs and applies her seal. HOWEVER, under state law, having those signatures and seal then tattoed would amount to tampering and/or altering a notarized signature and notary seal, which are felonies.

Very interesting question.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:50 AM
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8. The inking's not bad,
but the Notary stamp could HURT!
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:54 AM
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10. Heh, most states allow for an ink stamp rather than an embosser
In Washington, the embosser is preferred (it makes it much easier to tell an original from a copy) but not required.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:49 AM
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7. Down in Texas, a tattoo would do the trick but only if it says...
...I have no money and no insurance.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:51 AM
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9. reminds me of my ankle surgery
the nurse wrote on the correct foot something like "fix this one" and put a sock on the other foot.

Not sure that a tattoo is exactly the way to get the message across, but if it works....?
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:59 AM
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13. I remember seeing this of action being recommended after
the guy in Florida (?) got the wrong leg amputated. Oops!

Don't be afraid or embarassed to take the initiative and write in big fat marker "NO!" on the limbs you would like to keep.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:03 PM
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16. "NO? I thought it meant "ON", as in operation on this leg".
My bad. ;-)
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:59 AM
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14. I had a sticker over the operative eye
and a shield over the good eye last week.

It worked.
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:07 PM
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17. Good news! Hope you have a speedy recovery!
B-)
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prole_for_peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:31 PM
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18. when i had my carpel tunnel surgeries the nurse would
put a big X on the hand NOT to be operated on. but i wondered if the doc would get it. what if he thought it meant " X marks the spot"
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:56 AM
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11. I admire her creativity, but I'm glad she's also got a Living Will.
Everything needs to be spelled out clearly and legally.

My grandmother had a DNR, but somehow communication got mixed up between her doctors, the hospital doctors, and the staff at the hospice she went into. She went into cardiac arrest and was revived. She lived another painful, agonizing few weeks. (She died of lung cancer.)
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:42 PM
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19. I understand your perspective
but the Living Will is not for everybody. My mother would have not had the last 3 years of her life (which she desperately wanted) if she had had a living will. One medical crew almost let her go based on the wishes of her (not-so-sharp) stepdaughter, when she had five living children of her own. I could tell some horror stories about the problems with living wills. I appreciate the woman writing her wishes on herself. She made it clear to all.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 01:19 PM
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21. I didn't say the Living Will was for everybody.
I'm saying that in THIS case, I'm glad the woman isn't relying only on her tattoo, and that she actually has a Living Will in place.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 03:58 PM
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22. OK not arguing
Just making a comment. Personally from what I've seen, I'd rely on the tattoo more (in terms of intent) than the Living Will, though of course you have to have both for the legality of it.

People think that the problem is that they will be "kept alive against their will." From what I've seen, you need to state it very strongly if you have a serious chronic illness, but you DO want to be kept alive. This goes counter to popular belief.

Just making the point is all. Probably should have posted it to the OP.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:58 AM
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12. Nurses threaten that all the time
especially those of us who have been through a lot of code blue.

Still, the best bet is someone with a medical power of attorney. I've seen living wills overturned by hysterical relatives. I've never seen a power of attorney overturned, no matter what shrieking right to lifer distant cousin has turned up threatening lawsuits if you don't do chest compressions on Grandma whose rib cage is as sturdy as a strawberry box...





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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:54 PM
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20. My kinda woman
I bet she was a spitfire in her youth. Would love to meet her and just talk for a spell.
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