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Fri Jan-13-06 12:56 AM
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Alito nomination looks like certainty to me at this time. |
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Sadly.
I am 99.99% certain he will be confirmed. This is the result of choices Americans made when they elected 55 Republican senators and G.W. Bush.
Actions do have consequences, but it's too bad so few Americans knew the consequences. For most Americans, I'm afraid the supreme court and the influence the President and Senate have on makeup of the court is given scant consideration in the voting booth.
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Fri Jan-13-06 01:26 AM
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Fri Jan-13-06 01:36 AM
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3. We prepare ourselves. Kennedy is the in the middle. The MSM will |
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be forced to cover Abramoff. We win in 2006. Dems then can do investigations of many things in Bush's time. Then we win in 2008. And put moderates & Liberals on the court.
Take a deep breath.
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Fri Jan-13-06 02:15 AM
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5. Um, there is no promise of any opening on the court |
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(on the radical con side) since butch put fairly young guys on. There will be four radical clerics on there, with the only immediate option being to increase the number of associate justices-at one time there were twelve. Thomas is an absolute joke, however, even though he is a dumbass, his power is pretty heavy.
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Fri Jan-13-06 02:22 AM
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6. Well - Kennedy or Ginsberg could leave and be replaced by some |
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moderate/liberal who is 40. It matters.
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Fri Jan-13-06 02:35 AM
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7. Well, yes, but Kennedy and Ginsberg are already |
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dependably liberal. How would that make a difference?
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Fri Jan-13-06 02:39 AM
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8. In twenty years it might make a difference. And gosh only knows |
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Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 02:42 AM by applegrove
how Roberts would feel if the Dems won in 2006, held senate investigations into many of the Bush WH fiascos, and willfull and illegal things came up. Some may resign. It could happen! I mean this whole neocon thing came up like a dirty secret from the 1960s and has not had to face daylight & reality until today. 2006 is the most important thing. But - sure - I'll be sad if he get's away with not answering questions. Especially since Ted Kennedy made the issues all so clear. And there is documentation hiding.
I'm waiting for the NAACP to question Alito. I heard somewhere that they had standing.
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Fri Jan-13-06 02:59 AM
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Unfortunately, I don't expect to be here in twenty years (ain't looking likely) The democratic leaders have never, and probably never will, been willing to hold anyone accountable, especially after the crisis has subsided. (Witness Ford's pardoning Nixon-that should have started a shooting riot/ the refusal to impeach Reagan-they said two impeachments in one century might bring the republic down) The dem powers that be have almost as dirty hands as the thugs and they don't want the exposure.
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Fri Jan-13-06 03:11 AM
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12. No they don't. They govern. They don't "let things happen" like not |
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enough armour.
If Dems win in 2006 - for sure there would be investigations. And for sure Bush would be innocent. We know for sure his handlers tell him what to think. So they would have protected him. There is not way Bush is going down. But in 2006, if some investigation can happen into campaign gerymandering or transparency laws could be enacted - that would be great for democracy.
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Fri Jan-13-06 03:14 AM
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13. Ah, the idealism of the young... |
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Fri Jan-13-06 03:15 AM
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14. I was born with way too much. It is a miracle I still have any optimism. |
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Fri Jan-13-06 03:23 AM
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There is entirely enough cynicism around. Moderation is for monks. Live life in great big bites.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:20 PM
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19. Oh my life is huge for me. That is what it is about. |
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Fri Jan-13-06 01:28 AM
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2. Alito will have all the respect that Thomas enjoys |
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which is none. May Specter and the rest of his ilk know the part they played in turning this country into the land of the corrupt and the home of the rich.
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Fri Jan-13-06 01:41 AM
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4. That what it looked like on The Daily Show. But doesn't the NAACP |
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have a chance to question him? Where did I hear that. The guy on TDS said "barring any surprises".
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Fri Jan-13-06 02:51 AM
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9. I have no confidence that Bush was elected, even once. n/t |
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Fri Jan-13-06 02:56 AM
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10. I'm afraid of what will happen if he is confirmed. |
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- Abortion and contraceptives will become illegal. - More rights and liberties will be taken from us to keep us safe from "terra" - Instead of "Government for the people by the people" it will be "Government for the corporations by the corporations."
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Fri Jan-13-06 03:17 AM
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15. it sucks for me and people of my generation |
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We're young and are going to have to deal with this shit for the rest of our lives.
christ, what if BC is somehow made illegal in my lifetime? Is that such a farfetched thought...? :scared:
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Fri Jan-13-06 03:34 AM
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18. Look at what wonderful opportunities you have |
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to make it better. The craziness that is your inheritance was nurtured in the belly of a constant threat of nuclear annihilation. The nuclear standoff with the USSR in the early sixties, over Cuba, was every bit as heart-in-the-throat choking as is the threat from the people that the US has fucked over for the last three hundred years, who are now pretty pissed and wanting some revenge. Those under thirty have the chance to create world peace. Please don't blow it like my generation did.
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Fri Jan-13-06 03:20 AM
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16. The pro-Roe majority on the Court still exists |
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despite Alito's nomination.
Souter, Kennedy, Stevens, Ginsberg, and Breyer will vote to uphold Roe.
If Bush appoints anyone else, it becomes very dangerous.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:24 PM
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Kennedy is a reliable pro-life vote.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:38 PM
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21. Kennedy upheld Roe in Casey |
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Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 05:39 PM by tritsofme
He might capitulate on some restrictions, but he can be considered a pro-Roe justice.
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