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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:56 AM
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Alito nomination looks like certainty to me at this time.
Sadly.

I am 99.99% certain he will be confirmed. This is the result of choices Americans made when they elected 55 Republican senators and G.W. Bush.

Actions do have consequences, but it's too bad so few Americans knew the consequences. For most Americans, I'm afraid the supreme court and the influence the President and Senate have on makeup of the court is given scant consideration in the voting booth.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:26 AM
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1. OK
So what's the next move?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:36 AM
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3. We prepare ourselves. Kennedy is the in the middle. The MSM will
be forced to cover Abramoff. We win in 2006. Dems then can do investigations of many things in Bush's time. Then we win in 2008. And put moderates & Liberals on the court.

Take a deep breath.

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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:15 AM
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5. Um, there is no promise of any opening on the court
(on the radical con side) since butch put fairly young guys on. There will be four radical clerics on there, with the only immediate option being to increase the number of associate justices-at one time there were twelve.
Thomas is an absolute joke, however, even though he is a dumbass, his power is pretty heavy.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:22 AM
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6. Well - Kennedy or Ginsberg could leave and be replaced by some
moderate/liberal who is 40. It matters.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:35 AM
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7. Well, yes, but Kennedy and Ginsberg are already
dependably liberal. How would that make a difference?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:39 AM
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8. In twenty years it might make a difference. And gosh only knows
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 02:42 AM by applegrove
how Roberts would feel if the Dems won in 2006, held senate investigations into many of the Bush WH fiascos, and willfull and illegal things came up. Some may resign. It could happen! I mean this whole neocon thing came up like a dirty secret from the 1960s and has not had to face daylight & reality until today. 2006 is the most important thing. But - sure - I'll be sad if he get's away with not answering questions. Especially since Ted Kennedy made the issues all so clear. And there is documentation hiding.

I'm waiting for the NAACP to question Alito. I heard somewhere that they had standing.

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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:59 AM
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11. I hope that happens.
Unfortunately, I don't expect to be here in twenty years (ain't looking likely)
The democratic leaders have never, and probably never will, been willing to hold anyone accountable, especially after the crisis has subsided. (Witness Ford's pardoning Nixon-that should have started a shooting riot/ the refusal to impeach Reagan-they said two impeachments in one century might bring the republic down)
The dem powers that be have almost as dirty hands as the thugs and they don't want the exposure.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:11 AM
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12. No they don't. They govern. They don't "let things happen" like not
enough armour.

If Dems win in 2006 - for sure there would be investigations. And for sure Bush would be innocent. We know for sure his handlers tell him what to think. So they would have protected him. There is not way Bush is going down. But in 2006, if some investigation can happen into campaign gerymandering or transparency laws could be enacted - that would be great for democracy.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:14 AM
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13. Ah, the idealism of the young...
I envy you. :toast:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:15 AM
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14. I was born with way too much. It is a miracle I still have any optimism.
But I do. I just do.

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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:23 AM
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17. Wallow in it.
There is entirely enough cynicism around. Moderation is for monks. Live life in great big bites.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:20 PM
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19. Oh my life is huge for me. That is what it is about.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:28 AM
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2. Alito will have all the respect that Thomas enjoys
which is none. May Specter and the rest of his ilk know the part they played in turning this country into the land of the corrupt and the home of the rich.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:41 AM
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4. That what it looked like on The Daily Show. But doesn't the NAACP
have a chance to question him? Where did I hear that. The guy on TDS said "barring any surprises".
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:51 AM
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9. I have no confidence that Bush was elected, even once. n/t
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Jamison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:56 AM
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10. I'm afraid of what will happen if he is confirmed.
- Abortion and contraceptives will become illegal.
- More rights and liberties will be taken from us to keep us safe from "terra"
- Instead of "Government for the people by the people" it will be "Government for the corporations by the corporations."
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:17 AM
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15. it sucks for me and people of my generation
We're young and are going to have to deal with this shit for the rest of our lives.

christ, what if BC is somehow made illegal in my lifetime? Is that such a farfetched thought...? :scared:
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:34 AM
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18. Look at what wonderful opportunities you have
to make it better. The craziness that is your inheritance was nurtured in the belly of a constant threat of nuclear annihilation. The nuclear standoff with the USSR in the early sixties, over Cuba, was every bit as heart-in-the-throat choking as is the threat from the people that the US has fucked over for the last three hundred years, who are now pretty pissed and wanting some revenge.
Those under thirty have the chance to create world peace. Please don't blow it like my generation did.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:20 AM
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16. The pro-Roe majority on the Court still exists
despite Alito's nomination.

Souter, Kennedy, Stevens, Ginsberg, and Breyer will vote to uphold Roe.

If Bush appoints anyone else, it becomes very dangerous.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:24 PM
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20. uh, no it doesn't
Kennedy is a reliable pro-life vote.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:38 PM
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21. Kennedy upheld Roe in Casey
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 05:39 PM by tritsofme
He might capitulate on some restrictions, but he can be considered a pro-Roe justice.
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