Has there been anything on the Rove indictment??? I keep thinking

[movonne]

about what I read that maybe gonzales had the indictment sealed...God I hope not, but anything is possible in this administration...

[kstewart33]

1. My bet is that something will happen tomorrow or Friday.

Most "sources" are saying action (or not) will come by the end of May. Can't see Fitz acting over Memorial Day. So late this week seems more likely.

Sealed or not, an indictment's the same.

[MallRat]

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[OldLeftieLawyer]

3. There is no indictment

That's all anyone knows.

There is no indictment.

Gonzales is recused from this matter, and cannot intevene. Plus, courts seal indictments, not AGs.

Relax.

When something valid happens, Patrick Fitzgerald will announce it.

Until then, no one knows anything, except that there is no indictment.

[Hugin]

5. I have a question for you...

I heard yesterday that Fitzgerald isn't a "Special Prosecutor" in the
sense of previous investigations and therefore lacks the autonomy and
independence of a "Special Prosecutor". Which, what I was reading, came
to the conclusion there are many avenues of impeding or overturning
the current investigation.

I'm not up on my nuance in these matters. But, doesn't that mean this
could all really be for nothing? Someone behind the scenes could just
throw the switch and it would be over?

[OldLeftieLawyer]

8. Read up on Fitzgerald,

read about his other job, the one in Illinois. Find out how the law works, and under what kind of mandate he's currently operating with regard to the Plame outing. You'll appreciate it more if you research it yourself, and it's readily available in a multitude of sources.

Then, understand that, in our legal system, there is no "behind the scenes." Someone's told you that there are people who can make things happen within the judicial system, but those people lied to you. Same as that article claimed a "sealed indictment" had been handed down almost two weeks ago, which was, and continues to be, absolute twaddle.

You'll like what you learn about Fitzgerald and his impeccable reputation for hard work, fairness, and getting to the heart of the matter. His conviction record ain't bad, either.

It's all for something, and the legal system is working. Perhaps not as quickly as some people would wish, but the wheels of justice, as they say, grind exceedingly slow, and exceedingly fine. The results may not comport with the bloodlust for a Rove indictment that seems to compell a lot of people to do and say silly things, but the results will be whatever Fitzgerald and his brilliant staff can glean from what has happened.

In the meantime, the really big story is the Libby case. That's where the action is, in case you were wondering. The CIA hasn't taken kindly to how this administration has treated them - particularly Mary McCarthy - and that has turned out to be very, very bad news for Scooter Libby. So, keep your eye on that, and watch what happens.

Have fun.

[movonne]

20. Thank you ... I appreciate your post ...

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. Gonzalez can't seal anything

Only the judge can do that.

[MADem]

17. Not only that, Gonzalez cannot TOUCH this case

He is REEEEEEEEECUSED and REFUSED!!! He has absolutely NUTHIN' to do with it, he can't touch Fitzgerald, though we know he'd dearly love to dip his beak in. That's what happens when you are formerly a WH counsel with working ties to those under investigation!!!!!

[dogday]

6. Where did the newspaper clipping with

Cheney's handwriting come from? It was filed May 12, 2006 in the Libby case...

I know Libby would not of supplied evidence against himself, and I know Cheney would not release evidence that incriminates himself... So how did Fitzgerald get this important piece of information?

Anyone have any ideas on this????

[hang a left]

9. My best guess is that is was turned over by a cooperating witness.

Libby knows who it is you can be sure. I think that is why Fitz included that little tidbit in his filing, to fuck with Libby's head. Now who could that have been?? Rove, Hadley, Matalin, take a guess. That is all we can do until the book comes out.

[dogday]

10. It had to be someone in the know

This came from Cheney's desk....You have to wonder who had that kind of access???? The May 12, 2006 of this document is also telling....

[hang a left]

11. That is just the date the info was stuck into a Fitz filing.

We don't know when Fitz got the handwritten notes on the NYT edition. If you read the motions and responses you will find that Team Fitz adds a little snark in each and every one.

[dogday]

13. True but it was a late evening filing

and that gives me pause...

[DemReadingDU]

15. could be Armitage

The word is that Armitage is cooperating

[MADem]

18. Probably right out of the files

If it's a working memo from the VP, even if it is written on toilet paper, they keep it. And make ten copies....

[deansyawp]

7. no news

No new news other than more speculation, as far as I know. The $64,000 question is whether the Grand Jury is meeting today, and if it is, if it's meeting with Fitz re: Rove, but this is unknown (as opposed to the customary entirely unhelpful "the GJ is scheduled to meet," which, of course, means absolutely nothing). Presumably members of the SCLM (Schuster?) are waiting outside the courthouse to see if they can see anything, so we'll know if they see anything interesting ...

[ChickMagic]

12. I have much better accuracy with my magic 8 ball

than I do with the ramblings of pundits. I asked it
this morning if Rove will be indicted today and it
said "Most likely". That's as close to the truth
as we're gonna get.

[Jersey Devil]

14. Pundits said in October there would be as many as 27 indictments

I'm not sure if they meant "indictments" or "counts in indictments" but in either case they were way off base, as usual.

[ChickMagic]

16. I remember that

My magic 8 ball said "not likely" when asked about all the counts.

[AuntPatsy]

19. You have it exactly with this administration and it's lackies anything

is possible, to ignore that very real threat and the very fact that they continualy ignore the law of this land pretty much limits those who are attempting to stop them.