I'm amazed at what Americans have learned to put up with under Bush.

[Philosoraptor]

Lying, stealing, cheating, torturing, spying, invading, warring, bombing, genocide, corruption, secrets, pretending, ignoring, and general bullshit that the world war two generation would've considered totally unacceptable.

We've basically learned to tolerate every abomination as if it were just a reality t.v. show instead of real life. Pitiful, pitiful, pitiful.

[wryter2000]

1. It really boggles the mind, doesn't it?

So many times I've told myself, "okay this is it. No one's going to stick up for this bastard any longer." But so many people just roll over and ask for more.

[SoFlaJet]

2. yea but

there are over 20 million posts here on DU of which I'm willing to bet 98% of them are of dissent.I've been here a long time under 3 different names and have posted a few thousand myself in opposition of every one of their twisted principles

[xchrom]

3. it's the hallmark of the corporate era.

television, money, self interest ahead of community interest -- they have innoculated the citizen against outrage.

it's actually the 2000 election that marks the real highlight.

the people let the supreme court install a government on their behalf.

[redqueen]

4. not under this bush... this started under poppy bush

with the PR war

that's when america said, "sure, corporate media, lie to me. there's no fairness doctrine anymore, go whole hog!"

[napi21]

5. I don't think Americans have learned to put up with it, I think the MEDIA

simply downplays those things so much, most busy people simply have no idea! I can't even count the # of people I've told about the different rights that have been taken away, and they were SHOCKED! I always send them backup documentation so they know I'm not just blowin smoke. Unfortunately, I can't talk to everyone!

I wish I knew how to get the MEDIA to point all this out!

[schmuls]

6. You are so right! It's surreal, isn't it?

[Ezlivin]

7. It hasn't affected them directly

And by the time that it does it will be too late to make changes.

That is the most frightening aspect of all.

We need to face facts: Most Americans have absolutely no idea what "civil rights" means. If you ask most Christians, they will have a negative view of civil liberties because of their hatred of the ACLU. People can shrug their shoulders over the NSA wiretapping because they do not have a clear understanding of the importance (and existence) of the fourth amendment.

As a veteran it appalls me to see our hard-won rights and freedoms being given away by apathetic and ignorant "citizens".

[ThomWV]

8. Hate To Say It But: People Put Up With Things They Do Themselves

We are a far cry from the nation we were in 1939 in a lot more ways than George W. Bush.

People only put up with things they either do or know they would, given the choice, do themselves.

[Aiptasia]

9. I'm more surprised the Dems have had no spine through all this

The repuke spin machine screamed impeachment over a stupid extra-marital blowjob while Clinton was in the white house.

Considering all that's happened under shrub's tyrrany, why aren't more dems and progressives screaming for repuke heads on platters?

I just don't get it and it's very dis-illusioning.

[driver8]

10. I know that a lot of it is the media's fault, but not all of it.

The majority of people that I talk to just don't give a shit. (Present company excluded!). As long as these things don't affect their day to day routine, they do not give it a second thought.

Lying? "They didn't lie to me."

Stealing? "Hey -- Bush cut taxes...he's one of us."

Spying? "I don't have anything to hide...no worries."

Invading, bombing, warring? "Fighting the war on terror."

The information is out there, as we all know. If people cared, they would find it. If I mention PNAC to people I know, I'll bet you 95% of them will look at me like I'm speaking Chinese. I guess you could say that is the media's fault, but ignorance is bliss. They don't know and they don't want to know.

You can bet your ass that if Clinton was doing this, the media would make sure that the public knew about it.

[LibDemAlways]

13. Totally agree.

I've been called a "wack-o" more times than I care to think about for simply mentioning the existence of PNAC. The standard response is "If the stuff you're talking about was real, we'd hear about it on the news."

Try convincing people that "the news" isn't. Not easy.

[SammyWinstonJack]

17. So these people are gullible, greedy and self serving. And unless

one is a millionaire, bush is not "one of us". How come people don't give a shit when it's bush, but they would and did when it was Clinton? They certainly found the time to pay attention during that witch hunt. They believed every damn thing the media whores spewed and it didn't matter if the facts proved different. Hard evidence of bush lying, cheating, stealing etc. goes unnoticed and/or ignored. No wonder I constantly feel like doing this, :banghead: or this, :argh:

[driver8]

23. I feel the same way. One thing I have learned...there sure are

a lot of hypocrites in this country!!

Clinton gets a blowjob? -- impeach now!!

Bush destroys the country? -- ho hum; what time is American Idol on?

A lot of people are going to wake up one morning and finally realize that America ain't what they thought it was.

[LibDemAlways]

11. The average American is not well informed.

He/she would be way more likely to identify the names Laci Peterson, Natalee Holloway, Barry Bonds, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, etc......

than Samuel Alito, Alberto Gonzales, John Bolton, Karl Rove, Michael Hayden, etc....

I'll bet if you asked 100 people at random what's been "in the news" lately you'd hear a lot about celebrity babies, missing blondes, an injured racehorse, a sports record, and American Idol.

[driver8]

16. I am so sick of hearing about " 'Merkan Idol" I could scream!!

You would think that this is the most important thing happening to our country right now.

People...it's a television show! Get a f#cking life!

AAARRRRGGGGHHH!!!!!

[LibDemAlways]

21. Out of curiosity I tuned in for a couple of

minutes last night to see who made the finals. I had never watched this trainwreck before. My God, both of the finalists are only marginally "talented" in the most generous sense of the word. The guy looks and sounds like he might be able to eek out a career as an opener in Branson, and the young woman is attractive, but her voice? Meh. Reminded me of a Miss America contestant during a "talent" competition.

[CrispyQ]

20. A co-worker tried to argue with me that Tom Delay had

not broken any laws, except he referred to him as Tom Malloy. I told him I hadn't heard of that scandal, desperately trying to recall who Tom Malloy is. He went on to describe 'Malloy' as the powerhouse republican congressman who had been indicted. I asked, "Do you mean Tom Delay?" "Yeah, him." he said. I shook my head & asked him how how much detail he actually knew about the case considering he didn't even know the guy's name. :eyes:

This is the level of awareness of people that vote. :crazy:

[Marr]

12. I think it's the result of a couple of things.

1. The middle class has practically been destroyed in the last few decades. The average American lives check to check. They have little free time, and their awareness of the world is limited to a vague sense of having been cheated.

2. Media consolidation. More than ever, the big media is simply the PR department for Wall Street.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. Nothing new. Americans have put up with similar since 1776.

Slavery for over 200 years
Genocide on several occasions
The oppression of women
Jim Crow
Blatant imperialism
The suppression of Labor
Wars of aggression
Subversion, assasination, and aid to dictators during the (not so) "Cold War"
Use of WMD

and, a whole list of other crimes against humanity that the American people, not only accept, but cheer.

[Philosoraptor]

15. Nothing new under the sun.

All the way back to ice age days.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. Ever since Cain whacked Abel.

[eugene5debs]

19. We deserve it though

And we are going to keep on getting it until we say "enough" and do something about it.

Won't be any time soon though.

Bush's latest blunder: http://www.staggeron.org/universe.html#amero

[SeattleRob]

22. It is amazing

what's even more troubling is that the Democratic Party establishment see s to have learned the same thing too. Look at Hayden's easy ride through the Senate Intelligence Committee.

[Rex]

24. Our government is controlled by the will of the people

HAHAHA! :rofl: Sorry, just couldn't help myself.