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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:01 PM
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What Do CIA-Wilson-Shuster-Leopold Have In Common (NRO-Proceed w-caution)
"Former Intelligence Officials"
05/24 11:54 AM - Press Patterns

What do Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, Joe Wilson, David Shuster and Jason Leopold all have in common? Seixon connects the dots:

There can no longer be any doubt that most of these explosive and uncorroborated “news” stories are being manufactured by the tight-knit group of former intelligence officials in tandem with Joe Wilson, Valerie Plame, and most likely backers in the Democratic Party. It is also probably no coincidence that David Shuster and Chris Matthews of MSNBC have carried many of the same rumors and false stories, such as the one claiming that outing Plame damaged efforts on Iran. Shuster has been hyping a Rove indictment as imminent for over a month, something only one other source has been doing: Jason Leopold.

VIPS was started to compel intelligence officials to illegally leak classified information to damage the Bush administration, and is apparently now in the business of manufacturing false news and rumor-mongering to do the same. It should come as no surprise that a group of veteran intelligence officials would have the clout to pull off such an enterprise, and that they would cut any corner necessary to fulfill their agenda.

Referring to these VIPS guys as "former intelligence officials" and nothing more is highly deceitful. They are activists, and granting them anonymity serves no purpose other than to conceal that fact from news consumers. How often have we seen this happen in major news stories about this case?

http://media.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OWJmYTgxODBiYmM0ODc5NTM4ZmVhYjRjMmU2ODgzNGQ=
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:09 PM
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1. Christ, ok, let's expose all the Senior Administration Officials too then.
Let's put all the cards on the table and see who's been lying to whom.

Fair, yes?
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:09 PM
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2. I thought we were the conspiracy nuts? Did I miss something?
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:09 PM
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3. who is Seixon?
Edited on Wed May-24-06 01:10 PM by Snivi Yllom
This is brutal, calling TO, Will Pitt, & Juston Raimondo essentially 2 bit whores for VIPS.

It's not a surprise however, and in fact easy to see that Leopold's sources for the current May 12 story are most likely the members of VIPS.

That of course assumes Leopold was not making shit up.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:23 PM
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9. Uh, seriously, what does Raimondo have to do with the other 2?
I've read Raimondo's columns here and there for years now and I had no understanding that he had the slightest thing to do with Will's circles. Am I just late to the party here?

I know Larry Johnson and Joe Wilson know each other and are on roughly the same side but well.. the Raimondo thing, I'm like, wha?

Someone enlighten me. I'm curious. But man, I don't look at NRO as a credible source, just so everyone knows... and Byron York's relying on pant-filled reports straight from Rove's personal spokesman as if that man is supposed to be a virtual fountain of truth and credibility does nothing to make me want to rely on him, either.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:12 PM
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4. I dunno who Seixon is...
...but if that's how he connects the dots, then he probably failed first grade art class.

Wow, I'm glad the vast Left-Wing Media CIA conspiracy is working for us so well! :sarcasm: I need more coffee...
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:14 PM
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5. Horray, Chris is on our side!
How did we miss that here on DU?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:13 PM
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17. that explains why hes so chummy with Tom Delay
:sarcasm:
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:20 PM
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6. Worried Much?
Getting their news and analysis from "an american in Norway"? Interesting, first York, now this. H20Man was dead on about a dis-information campaign. But will anyone raise questions about this little piece of reporting? Where's Kurtz now?

*shadow government*
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 09:03 PM
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26. "H20Man was dead on about a dis-information campaign."
Yes! You betcha! And, boy we sure are seeing it now.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:21 PM
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7. Webster's answer for Seixon
The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search box to the right.

Suggestions for seixon:
1. Saxon
2. sixmo
3. saxony
4. scission
5. Saxony
6. sexing
7. sixmos
8. siccing
9. Suakin
10. Saxons

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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:25 PM
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10. hmmm...
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:31 PM
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11. Karl Rove Goes About Business as Usual
STB: I WANT MORE!!!!!...oh, and hello, hows the bike?

Wednesday :: May 24, 2006
Karl Rove Goes About Business as Usual

While the grand jury is meeting today, I don't know if the Plame case is on the agenda. I'm not expecting any announcements. But then again, this case has been full of surprises.

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/014930.html

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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:35 PM
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12. the bike is good
I am just starting to get my race legs back from that sickness that I had a while ago.

This was the worse timing in the world because last weekend and this weekend are the State Championship races, oh well I will have to set my eyes on other races later in the year.

Can't wait to see what the news is today on this subject, the real news that is.

The more this crap comes out the more I think Rove sees the writing on the wall
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:40 PM
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14. Speed is a need...
or so says my son

So, God's speed to you and your bike....
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:23 PM
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8. Oh NationalReview.com
Now I understand... Do you???:crazy:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:37 PM
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13. Nothing cracks me up more..
... than listening to a douchebag like this author whining about "media control" and "disinformation".

Hey, you stupid sack of shit - is it only Republicans who get to put out their talking points, or can we issue one now and then too?

Oh and by the way you fucking idiot, the US did IN FACT create Saddam Hussein. Moron.

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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:49 PM
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15. Nicely Put
LOL!

*shadow government*
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:11 PM
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16. how dellusional can you get???
:wtf:
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:15 PM
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18. more Ann Coulter type of analysis - bunch of BS
we should be attacking them, they are the scumbag liars.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:32 PM
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19. Thank goodness
for the brave guardian of democracy who authored this insightful piece. I blame Joe Wilson for the lies that brought us to war in Iraq. David Shuster is an aggressive man, too. Scares me. What this country needs is a return to Dan Quayle and Pat Boone.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 08:06 PM
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25. You don't know Pat Boone
...or Pat Boon, as Dan Quayle would say.

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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:59 PM
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20. Well, that was interesting
as a pile of poop!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 05:50 PM
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21. Perfect description.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 05:52 PM
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22. That blog reminds me of a Bircher tract from the mid-1950s. The ones that
Edited on Wed May-24-06 05:56 PM by leveymg
accused Ike, John Foster Dulles and the CIA of really being part of a vast Communist conspiracy. Those little pamphlets and magazines used the word "stooges" a lot. That's right, now I remember, the little Bircher mag was called "The National Review."

How little America seems to have changed in a half-century.

Nikita's Three Stooges

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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 06:01 PM
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23. The Wilsonistas are plotting against Jason Leopold!
Oh, it all makes sense now.

Man, what the hell is this guy smoking?
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 07:35 PM
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24. some background on the author Stephen Spruiell
""National Review Online has a new media blog, and the editors are asking readers to help name it. My suggestion was Right Justified. I doubt they will use it. They’ve assigned a young reporter to the blog, Stephen Spruiell, 25. He has a Journalism degree, a Masters in Public Affairs from the LBJ School at the University of Texas, and a bit of Washington experience. Plus, he’s written pieces for the National Review. I predict he is going to do well if he stays with the media blog and develops it. This post explains his approach: “More than just looking out for liberal bias,” he says. Bravo. That would be an intellectual advance.

http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2005/06/10/frkn_nro_p.html

Prior to pursuing his MA, Stephen received his BA in Journalism from the University of Oklahoma in 2002. As a Koch Summer Fellow in 2002, he interned at Citizens for a Sound Economy where he was hired into a year-long position. In the summer of 2004, Stephen interned at National Review where he wrote this article on the G-8 and this article on tax reform among others .

http://www.theihs.org/article.php/1177.html

Stephen Spruiell
Citizens for a Sound Economy
University of Oklahoma
BA, 02, Journalism

Citizens for a sound economy
Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE) is a powerful industry-funded think tank, promoting deregulation. It was founded by Koch Industries interests .

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Citizens_for_a_Sound_Economy










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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 09:09 PM
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27. Koch fellow? Koch sucker, as in Doro Bush Koch, of the oil
Kochs?

naaaaa
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 09:22 PM
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28. Seixon Explains It All.
I feel so much better now seeing it all in print. The great liberal bias and conspiracy I've always suspected, but could never prove.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 09:31 PM
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29. Tweety? This is the only "true" news he has covered!
It is also probably no coincidence that David Shuster and Chris Matthews of MSNBC have carried many of the same rumors and false stories, such as the one claiming that outing Plame damaged efforts on Iran.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 09:51 PM
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30. Conspiracy theories from Bushbot Republicans are infinitely worse..
Edited on Wed May-24-06 09:52 PM by SeveneightyWhoa
..than even the most deranged, batty far-leftist conspiracy theory.

Take shit like this, for instance.
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