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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:58 PM
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Jon Brown, Freedom Fighting Hero or Villainous Terrorist?
Edited on Wed May-24-06 03:56 PM by Dufaeth
I live in the south and I'm tiring of the confederate flags on cars. I've been thinking about a bumper sticker to the effect of :

"The Confederacy may be your Heritage but John Brown is mine."

edit to add CafePress sticker: http://www.cafepress.com/secretsix.58927447
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astonamous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:03 PM
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1. I like the idea...
I have a friend that is related to John Brown. I think if you design the bumper sticker and have them made, please let me know, I would buy some for her to hand out to people.

Trudy
www.pryorsplanet.com
www.richardpryor.com
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:04 PM
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3. I'm related to one of his backers. Maybe I'll set up a cafe press later
eom
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:51 PM
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7. I set up a simple sticker on cafe press, no profit to me
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astonamous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 04:46 PM
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9. Kewl...I sent the link to my friend.
I would be she orders some. Her care is covered in Bartcop.com stickers and animal rights stickers, this would stand out in California. LOL!
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 04:55 PM
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10. Let me know if she uses it
It would be cool to know it was out there.
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astonamous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 08:04 PM
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15. She just emailed me..."I have to have that!!!!"
I bookmarked this thread and will check with her tomorrow to see if she ordered them. I will send you a PM.

Trudy
www.richardpryor.com
www.pryorsplanet.com
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:04 PM
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2. See earlier threads about flags
The Uneducated & Unwashed are actually displaying the Battle Flag of the Army Of Northern Virginia.
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:28 PM
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4. Read "Cloudsplitter," an excellent historical fiction piece on
John Brown. Exhaustive research but its fictionalixed told from one of his surviving sons. A fascinating figure.
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:58 PM
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8. I'll look for it at the library, Got a ten hour drive on friday. eom
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:49 PM
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5. Great. Wonder how many people will remember who he is and
how he warned everyone about the coming Civil War.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:51 PM
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6. I like the slogan
I don't know if he was a terrorist or a man of conscience? It wouldn't pass the WWJD test, however, as violence contradicts the Sermon on the Mount.

At the very least, the sticker will make some people think.

In one of Laura Ingalls Wilder's books, she talks about her town getting a Congregational preacher who is related to John Brown, and how he resembled him in a way that distracted her from his preaching. The minister was an interesting character in the book, too. It wasn't Rev. Alden, he was in earlier books.

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 05:10 PM
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11. one of John Brown's ancestors was Robert White
and another DUer claimed that it was estimated that 1/4 of America has Robert White for an ancestor. So lots of people must be related to old John Brown. I just checked and John Brown is also a 5th cousin once removed of Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormons. In fact, John Brown's parents were also 5th cousins once removed, both being descended from Robert White (17 may 1560) and Bridget Allgar.

It passed the WWJD test though, since Brown was also killed by the state, as he predicted he would be.
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 05:29 PM
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12. I guess a lot of people could claim more literal meaning from the slogan
:)
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 06:03 PM
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13. great bumper sticker
and i would add, Nat Turner is MY heritage....
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 06:56 PM
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14. I would add a Nat Turner sticker but free cafe press only allows one
bumper sticker. Good idea though.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 08:07 PM
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16. he's from my state
Born in Torrington, CT...
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