CNN: Could this be Gore's moment. right now

[Gabi Hayes]

Bill Schneider, amping up the skepto:
"a lecture by Al GORE?"

[Gabi Hayes]

1. does Bush plan to see it?

then showing a clip of Bush looking like an idiot:

"uhhhh, uuhhh, doubt it."

then a clip of him on SNL: gas 19 cents a gallon

[hatrack]

2. Have they mentioned earth tones? The Internet? Love Story?

Have they begun to snicker and giggle yet?

Give them 90 seconds and one of the above WILL surface, I'll doubledamnguarantee you.

[Dunvegan]

3. If they really want to anger Gore (who shoots back doubledamnfast)...

...these days, they might want to doubledamn re-think a thing or two about all that dead-wrong crap.

[Miss Chybil]

4. Sounds to me like they were playing Gore up and Bush down.

Wish they would have done that a few years ago.

[Gabi Hayes]

7. I'd agree.....especially that Lettemanesque snip of Bush, in which

he epitomized the inarticulate, smirking, bobbleheaded doofus that he reveals himself to be to all but the most delusional hagiophytes

[Gabi Hayes]

5. it was actually pretty positive, after the snarky intro

ended with this question: could a country possible elect a man who served eight years as vice president, then lost in his attempt at the no. 1 slot, only to disappear from the political landscape for the next two presidential cycles?

It worked for Nixon in 1968, and the timing could be right for him now

has the press changed its narrative on him?

with the release of the movie today, and concomitant coverage, it'll be interesting to see how he's treated

Lehrer did a very evenhanded look at him just now, as well, with the New YOrk Magazine author of a long article about him (which made, in 7000 words, NO mention of the media's treatment of him in 2000), and a former aide.

could it possibly be that everybody, media included, is SO frickin' fed up with the junta that they're actually going to become reality based?

sorry, but it's fun to be optimistic ONCE a year, or so

[hatrack]

12. Well, if he DOES end up making a run, or putting a toe in the water . . .

They'll be snarking and snarling and sneering all the way to the bank, cuz we wouldn't actually want a thoughtful, intelligent guy as president when we could have Just Plain Folks, now would we?

:eyes:

[neoblues]

8. IF They Do... This Time We Must Fight Back!

Those things were falsehoods intended to destroy Gore's public image--and they worked great given the complicity of the MSM and it's frenzied mass repetition of the lies. I mean, they were repeating clearly altered/adulterated statements they stated were "Quotes". They were changed statements and provided out of context--and presented with universal condemnation and derision. No one stood up and demanded retractions.

If anyone did any of those things to a Republican candidate--inside of 24 Hours the Republicans would have organized a massive counterattack of letters and emails in the millions. We, however, despite our "sophisticated" use of the Internet never managed anything remotely similar--not even by 2004 when Kerry was assassinated in/by the MSM/media conjointly with the Swift Boaters. We have to DEMAND the Truth, at least when it's so blatantly abused. If they dare to present such unadorned lies--lies that we can easily show for what they are... we cannot afford to let such pass again.

[Gabi Hayes]

9. the internet WAS used in both the instances you cite, but manifestly

IGNORED by the M$M.

the same sort of firestorm ignited by the likes of the RW appartchiks that got Dan Rather FIRED were totally ignored in similar circumstances turned against Clinton, Gore, and Kerry

[Dunvegan]

10. Gore fires back like a shot now.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_allen_l__060524_gore_positioning_him.htm

Does he, like many Democrats, think the election was stolen? Gore pauses a long time and stares into the middle distance. "There may come a time when I speak on that," Gore says, "but it's not now; I need more time to frame it carefully if I do." Gore sighs. "In our system, there's no intermediate step between a definitive Supreme Court decision and violent revolution."

[Gabi Hayes]

11. right...somebody posted a similar link, in which David Boies, when

asked if he thought Gore considered the election stolen, said, in effect, "Yes."

It's so far off, 2008. what on earth is going to happen between then and now

he sure looks good, though, in comparison with whatever else is out there

[neoblues]

17. True enough...

The M$M did blatantly ignore the opposing view. Indeed, I was there too, on the Internet. However, my own experience and the articles of analysis by liberal/progressive analysts indicated that our efforts simply lacked the kind of organization, immediacy and numbers mustered by the Republicans on and off the Internet in their attacks on and efforts to influence the media (which is almost funny since the media scarcely every said an unkind word about--and no false attacks upon any Republican candidates). That's not really saying that even if we had matched them it would have altered the agenda of the M$M in any significant way. So, I don't differ with you in any significant way here.

Nevertheless, we, as a group have got to find a way to get our message out and likewise, we must not let these personal/image assassinations on our candidates to succeed. If we have to run actual direct protests organized to occur simultaneously in cities across the country--just to demand media corrections or to oppose a M$M feeding frenzy, then that's what we'll have to do. We cannot again fail to reach enough people with the Truth. The Right-Wing Noise Machine must not have the last say in such cases.

I'm saying that this is altogether too important not to do whatever it takes to address it. Next to ensuring we get a fair, honest and verifiable election/vote, this must be a priority. Sure, breaking up the M$M Oligopoly must be done, but since we have zero hope of reversing their control, we have to do whatever is needed to at least stop their specific allowance of what they would call "the Politics of Personal Destruction" (a name they invented for false attacks on Republican candidates, but an activity they exclusively perform on Democrats (in the rare instance Democrats engage in this, it's different because the damaging statements are True, so the name is not applicable!)).
That you may know and agree with, but it doesn't hurt saying since you never know who is going to read this nor what they believe (not that they'd believe me, but it would give them food for thought).

[Kahuna]

15. I didn't see the Latest Whoreward Fineman piece on MSNBC posted yet..

But I read it this morning on MSNBC's website this morning. Fineman says he saw Gore at a showing and went up to him and said something to the effect that this lecturing stuff is his calling instead of politics. He said Gore dismissed him with a grunt. I whipped an email off to Fineman letting him know how he had a lot of nerve telling the guy who actually WON the election that he was better off without it. I then went on to hold Fineman and his ilk responsible for all the deaths, the destruction of the Twin Towers, Katrina, and the emptying of our treasury.

[johnaries]

13. Not so fast, the worm is turning.

Gore is turning into the darling of the media.

Look at this excellent report and interview by Katie Couric (now, there's a phrase I never expected to type.... ):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032633/?ta=y

[Gabi Hayes]

14. I sure hope you're right, but their track record on him is even worse

than you might remember

it he starts pursuing office again, I hate to think how fast these worms will turn again

[johnaries]

16. Ahhh, but you forget how fickle the MSM is.

Even Katie (in a voice-over) mentioned that the argument over global warming is not "if" but "when".

Yes, they may turn again, but they never turn on a dime. There is a momentum to these "patterns of reporting".

The momentum is building in our favor.

[Doctor_J]

6. Maybe Smirk can give a lecture on something HE's good at

There's getting drunk, taking vacation, and killing people. Which of those can you make a movie about?