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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:41 PM
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Gangs in the Military
Edited on Tue May-30-06 01:56 PM by sparosnare
Someone sent me this video of a Fox News report on gang members who are joining all branches of the military. They serve, learn all about weapons and warfare, then use what they've learned against law enforcement on the streets. Disturbing to say the least - and I'm a bit surprised Fox would do such a piece that paints at least some soldiers in a bad light.

Just another indication our country is going down the drain.

http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/7978035/detail.html



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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:51 PM
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1. Try this one ;)
I've read a bit about this so did a quick web search, this might be the same video. Click the selection "Elizabeth Alvarez Reports On Gang Members Joining Military" in the "related" box

http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/7978035/detail.html

And a related article about it I'd posted here before.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-gangs01.html

How big or how real the problem is we don't know yet, could be overblown but according to the article they've found a high number who don't want to leave their gangs when done with service. It's normal to join to get away from the gangs but some are worried about this part.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:56 PM
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3. Thank you -
the report I watched was from LA - but I'll put this link in my OP, it's essentially the same info.

It seems they may not be joining to get away from gangs, but to learn stuff they can use on the streets once they return. I guess it's to be expected when the military is desperate for recruits and will take just about anyone.
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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:02 PM
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6. That's a possible concern
Another aspect I'm wary of though is the racism aspect bryant69 pointed out, although some gang members are among the most dangerous people I've ever seen most are just kids who want to belong somewhere. At least that's how they start out. We've had a bad record of hysteria with the "crack" epidemic and other things, it's worth making sure we've got a real problem and taking it slow. Otherwise we can end up doing more harm than good, crack down on what isn't such a problem and just make life worse for them, just increase the reasons they have problems in the first place.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:55 PM
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2. As for why fox would do this story
Consider the likely skin color of these soldiers/gang members.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:58 PM
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4. Yeah, you're probably right. Racially motivated. n/t
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:01 PM
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5. Keeps the population's fear level ratcheted up, too.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:08 PM
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9. I'd not be surprised to see a lot of shots of hispanics in those pictures
Since they seem to be the fear du jour.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:11 PM
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10. The video I've linked is from El Paso.
I watched another from LA - blacks, hispanics, even white supremacists were included.....maybe the angle here is to justify arming police more heavily as someone else suggested in this thread. Both videos are doused with a heavy dose of hysteria.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:07 PM
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7. Gives them reason to have militarized police.
That is what they're playing at here, heavily armed military type police officers.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:08 PM
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8. Gangs with military training + collapsing economy + high oil prices +
add a racially motivated attack = some truly scary shit of a future ahead.
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