Eric J in MN
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:13 PM
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Why can't we have a Democratic version of Fox News? |
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Are there not enough Democrats in the television business?
I don't get it.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:15 PM
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1. Well we have Democracy Now |
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but nobody watches it. I think maybe Amy Goodman (whom I love) is just a bit too grim. (which is why I like her, but maybe it doesn't play well in Peoria)
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:17 PM
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Pacifica is like Fox for the left--only with information |
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:19 PM
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6. DemocracyNow is the one hour of must listen radio everyday (LINK) |
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Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 05:29 PM by yurbud
Before Air America came on, Democracy Now was like Radio Free America for me--a thread of sanity and truth to hold onto while our country was going Khmer Rouge. http://democracynow.org/
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:23 PM
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10. Don't you just love Amy? |
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She is just so damned sincere. Kind of reminds me of some really serious nuns I had in grade school. Full of burden for the world.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:16 PM
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2. We would have to tell the Truth.. |
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..and Frankly..Americans can't handle the Truth.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:16 PM
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3. You want public dishonesty, lies and ignorance? |
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Jeeze, we already have a handful of left wing disinformation on a small scale now....
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:17 PM
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4. F that! Why can't we get some Fair and Balanced News? |
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I don't need LW propaganda, I want the truth.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:22 PM
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8. I thought we had Wolfie and CNN? |
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:spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:57 PM
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We do have a couple of honest people, but they all have to mix it with comedy. Where's the credibilty in that?
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:17 PM
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5. Mergers and megamergers have shut the left out of major media |
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and funding for cable media has been very hard to come by.
Besides, people on the left side of the political spectrum are unlikely to sit there, hour after hour, chewing their cuds as the pretty colors roll by on the crawl underneath the bottle blonde talking head. We tend to analyze too much of it and ask too many questions.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:20 PM
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7. Why can't we have a Dem version of CNN? |
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Or the NBCs? Cuz the CORPORATIONS WANT A FASCIST AGENDA and the GOP is the ONLY party for fascists.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:31 PM
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17. CNN=Continuous Non News |
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A couple of months ago, I was CNN in the gym.
The first story was Michael Jackson
The second was the runaway bride
The third was the lost girl in Aruba
And now to sports and weather...
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Eric J in MN
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Fri Jan-13-06 06:00 PM
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24. There should be more substantial international news on IWT |
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Independent World Television.They plan to start in 2007. To do that, they need donations in 2006. I've donated.
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Fri Jan-13-06 06:51 PM
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:22 PM
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9. I don't want the Dem Version of anything,,,, Just Truth and |
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Investigative Reporting and Facts.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:28 PM
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:applause:
But haven't you heard? Truth is now a liberal value. :sarcasm:
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:23 PM
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11. You need corporate bucks |
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Liberal ideology ,generally, doesnt put corporate wants and needs above the needs of the normal Joe. Conservative ideology does, therefore we have no corporate backers willing to take chances on a risky venture like this. Thats one reason IMO.
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Sun Jan-15-06 05:37 PM
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I think yours is the number one reason.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:25 PM
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12. Fox News is tabloid trash |
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I'd hate to see us have to sink to that level
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Eric J in MN
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:38 PM
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20. Ideally, neither Republicans nor Democrats would have a TV channel |
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which demonized the other side.
But since we can't stop the Republicans on Fox News from demonizing Democrats, at least there should be a channel which does the same to Republicans.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:25 PM
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13. We should, Eric. And why not some of its Board of Directors |
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be comprised with progressive bloggers?
How about Board membership -- I'm serious -- from DU, KOS, you, etc.?
A LOT of us would support that enthusiastically.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:26 PM
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14. Because fascist states do not promote messages or propaganda that is not |
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:29 PM
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16. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart? |
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Just need more news stories and less interviews with so called moderates.
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Eric J in MN
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:40 PM
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22. When the Daily Show presents video of Bush and then |
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Jon Stewart goofs on it, that is the kind of thing I want more of on TV.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:31 PM
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18. if the media did their job and reported the facts truthfully..... |
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....both parties would be held accountable and we'd have a real democracy. without a free and fair media, that's impossible. it just so happens that the current media is corporate owned and in bed with the repukes, so we get watered down news regarding our current republican controlled government.
so i agree with the people here that say that they don't want a dem version of faux news.....that would equate to left wing spin and propoganda. what good would that do other than give the dems cover to start being as corrupt as the repukes.
having two opposing parties is OK, as long as there's a balance representative of the electorate. so, something as vital as the media should not be controlled by corporate cronies, dirtbags like murdock or anyone else with an agenda.
unfortunately, i guess that's asking too much.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:32 PM
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19. Closest we have is Countdown with Keith |
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Olbermann and The Daily Show.
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Fri Jan-13-06 05:40 PM
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Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 05:40 PM by gkhouston
two shows that take the truth seriously while often appearing to take nothing seriously. CNN could learn a few thousand things from Olbermann and Stewart.
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Fri Jan-13-06 07:04 PM
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Eric J in MN
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Fri Jan-13-06 07:12 PM
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27. Al Gore raised the money needed to start "Current TV," so |
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why can't someone do that for a Democratic version of Fox News?
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Fri Jan-13-06 07:18 PM
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28. It takes HUGE money.. and since there are only so many |
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licenses, a willing SELLER..and then a total overhaul of satff..
It takes YEARS... The repubes have been building and fine-tuning their media empire for THIRTY YEARS..
If Soros & Turner bought CNN back, and cleaned house, there would be hope, but I don;t see that happening..
Murdoch, mellon-scaife, et al are cagey slippery types and they will not let go of what they have..
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Fri Jan-13-06 07:19 PM
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29. Thats like saying that heaven should have it's own version of satan |
Eric J in MN
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Fri Jan-13-06 07:39 PM
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30. How about: "We need Air America Television, |
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not just Air America Radio."
Would you agree with the concept of Air America Television?
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Fri Jan-13-06 08:09 PM
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31. I don't think we should become a beast to destroy a beast, |
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Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 08:09 PM by Raydawg1234
I think news should be un-biased, people should decide for themselves.
But that is a problem, People have now come to rely on the TV to provide their opinions for them. Not an easy problem to solve.
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Fri Jan-13-06 09:12 PM
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32. Do you like "Air America Radio?" |
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Fri Jan-13-06 09:18 PM
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33. News should be apolitical. |
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Commentary should be two-sided. A liberal TV netowrk is not the answer. It will just preach to the choir. If we have apolitical news and balance in commentary, that will be enough for me.
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Fri Jan-13-06 10:01 PM
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35. Commentary should be honest. |
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Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 10:07 PM by Zen Democrat
Allowing dishonest discourse in the name of "balance" is absurd. That's why we're in the fix we're in now. What we have now from Wolf Blitzer, Tim Russert, et al., is feeding softball questions to the Rebublicans and challenging anything substantive said by the Democrats. It's not fair and balanced in any way.
I would like to see a network that was honest, with interviewers who are INTELLIGENT, and capable of calling people down on their inaccuracies and spins.
Sometimes Jim Lehrer does that on PBS. Sometimes Charlie Rose does ("and that's important because...?). Olbermann, of course. Maybe Aaron Brown. Definitely Bill Moyers. The Democracy Now Hour. Bill Maher doing the "Larry King"-type show. Perhaps some new-oriented comedy like Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, maybe Al Franken producing an SNL type skit show on Saturday nights. News and entertainment that's intellectually honest. I could go for a network like that.
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Fri Jan-13-06 10:49 PM
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36. I think Fox News is helpful to the Republican Party. Do you? |
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Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 10:50 PM by Eric J in MN
I think a Democratic version would be helpful to the Democratic Party.
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Fri Jan-13-06 11:10 PM
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39. I'm not fond of group think. |
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Just give me information an unbiased fashion and I can make my own decisions. I think most people would as well.
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Fri Jan-13-06 09:48 PM
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34. I don't think we want to cloud the truth? |
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Do you?
The Right will consume itself. It might take time but when people truly start to feel what's happening, it will be hard not to seek justice.
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Fri Jan-13-06 10:56 PM
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37. Because "Natalee Holloway: Day 275" Gets Better Ratings |
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Whenever Olbermann criticizes Fox or O'Reilly, they always bring up ratings as though that's what makes someone right or wrong.
Americans are stupid. They are drawn to stupid things.
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Fri Jan-13-06 11:09 PM
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Freepers seem to think they have Fox News and the rest are liberal media. :eyes:
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Sat Jan-14-06 12:06 PM
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40. I'd like a lineup of hosts which includes Tim Robbins, Sam Seder, etc. |
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Sat Jan-14-06 12:11 PM
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41. Have you heard about IWT (Independent World Television) ? |
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Independent World Television is building the world’s first global independent news network. Online and on TV, IWTnews will deliver independent news and real debate from professional and citizen journalists -– without funding from governments, corporations or commercial advertising. http://www.iwtnews.com/http://www.iwtnews.com/http://www.iwtnews.com/ SPREAD THE WORD!! http://www.iwtnews.com/
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Sun Jan-15-06 04:10 PM
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42. Yes, I've promoted IWT News at |
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www.speakspeak.org multiple times.
However, because of the international focus, IWT News seems more like CNN in the Ted Turner days than like an answer to Fox News.
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Sun Jan-15-06 04:15 PM
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44. I hope my cable service will carry it! |
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It looks like it's going to be great!
John
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and the media is owned by FIVE, yes you read right, FIVE major RIGHT WING LEANING concerns...
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Sun Jan-15-06 05:32 PM
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45. I'd like something like NOW and The News Hour combined. |
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