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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:15 AM
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Interesting article from YESTERDAY: Zarqawi Scheduled for Martyrdom
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 02:19 AM by tritsofme
June 7, 2006: The relationship between terrorist leader Abu Musab al Zarqawi and and the mainline al Qaeda leadership continues to deteriorate. Zarqawi's recent audio messages have not only attacked the U.S. and the Shia-dominated government in Iraq, but also Iran. He's even claiming that the U.S., Iran, and Shia in general, are in cahoots to destroy Islam. He has also called for continued attacks against Shia.



Except for his verbal attacks on the U.S. and the Iraqi government, he is almost totally distanced himself from the central leadership. Other al Qaeda leaders have been trying to down play anti-Iranian and anti-Shia rhetoric, and have been strongly discouraging attacks on civilians.



Given that Zarqawi has become a loose cannon and that his actions are handicapping Al Qaeda's efforts, it seems reasonable to expect that an accident may befall him at some point in the near future. If handled right it can be made to look like he went out in a blaze of glory fighting American troops or that he was foully murdered. Either way, al Qaeda gets rid of a problem and gains another "martyr."

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmurph/articles/20060607.aspx

I found this when I was doing a wire search looking for internet confirmation of his death...

Intesting indeed...
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:23 AM
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1. Give that author a cigar! n/t
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:23 AM
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2. OMG!
"Given that Zarqawi has become a loose cannon and that his actions are handicapping Al Qaeda's efforts, it seems reasonable to expect that an accident may befall him at some point in the near future. If handled right it can be made to look like he went out in a blaze of glory fighting American troops or that he was foully murdered. Either way, al Qaeda gets rid of a problem and gains another "martyr."

:tinfoilhat:

:wow:

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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:18 PM
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43. DING! DING! DING!
Give that poster a cigar!
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:35 AM
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3. Say what you like about Al Qaeda...
...they certainly know how to get the job done when they put their minds to it. The Mafia could learn lessons from these guys in how to rub someone out.
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:50 AM
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29. Well the CIA and the ISI trained them well. n/t
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:20 PM
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44. Ayup!
File that under "things that don't get mentioned" by the press.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:42 AM
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4. bin Laden..
...likely just called up Dubya and told him where to bomb. Those two seem to have the same goals, and they both hate gays and "foreigners". Both had hedonistic youths before finding religion. Two peas in a pod.
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:51 AM
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30. Not to mention close family business ties. n/t
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:16 AM
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5. Wow - it's on google news
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=Zarqawi+Scheduled+for+Martyrdom&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn

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Zarqawi Scheduled for Martyrdom
Strategy Page - 22 hours ago
June 7, 2006: The relationship between terrorist leader Abu Musab al Zarqawi and and the mainline al Qaeda leadership continues to deteriorate. ...
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:47 AM
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6. Interesting that they are reporting on CNN
That people in the Al Qaeda organization are the ones who gave up his position.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:04 AM
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12. that's exactly what came to mind when I read the OP (n/t)
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:25 AM
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19. I'm glad somebody else heard it
Because I was starting to think I was crazy.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:38 AM
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7. Kickity kick this one won't sink!
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:24 AM
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14. Yay! I saved a worthwhile post.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:06 AM
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21. GREAT catch
Congratulations!
:toast:
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 07:21 PM
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46. Thanks!
:toast:
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:40 AM
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27. "Iraqi Insurgents FIRED Zarqawi In APRIL For Incompetence"
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:40 AM
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8. Well now, isn't that CONVENIENT?
Everybody do the Superior Dance!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:41 AM
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9. Very curious. I wonder how this plays into neocon plans to attack Iran?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:52 AM
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47. I'd say, this is part of a deal.
Does Zarqawi "Elimination" Signal Bush Deal With Iran?
by leveymg
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/8/74541/27082
Thu Jun 08, 2006 at 04:45:41 AM PDT
It's widely conceded within the U.S. intelligence community that Abu Musab al Zarqawi, a Sunni militant, has served as an asset in U.S. efforts to slow Iran's consolidation of control over Southern Iraq.

His killing by a U.S. air strike earlier today, following a tip received from the Shi'a controlled Iraqi gov't, comes immediately after an apparent deescalation in tensions between Washington and Iran.

leveymg's diary :: ::
Zarqawi, a Jordanian national, commanded Sunni militia responsible for numerous terrorist attacks targeting religious sites and the population of the 60 percent Shi'a majority in Iraq.

As ABC reported last year, the Bush Administration went out of its way to preserve Zarqawi as an ace up its sleeve to counter the Iranian-allied Shi'a majority regime that would likely succeed Saddam Hussein. According to ABC:

http://www.abc.net.au/...
May 1, 2006.

Abu Musab al Zarqawi ... Former spy says the US had the terrorism figure in its sights.

Bush turned down chances to kill Zarqawi: ex-CIA spy

A former top CIA spy says the United States deliberately turned down several opportunities to kill terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in the lead-up to the Iraq war.

Mike Scheuer headed the CIA's bin Laden unit for six years before resigning in 2004.

He has told the ABC's Four Corners program the Bush administration had Zarqawi in its sights almost every day for a year.

SNIP

Today, The Guardian (UK) reported that Iraqi PM, Nouri al-Maliki, who is Shi'a, announced that Zarqawi had been "eliminated" after high officials in the Shi'a dominated Iraq regime tipped off the U.S. military to his location. Local residents in Baquba, north-east of Baghdad, reportedly informed Iraqi authorities following a grizzly beheading of 17 Shi'a captives in the area. Zarqawi recently released a video in which he called on Sunnis to rise up and exact partisan reprisals. Zarqawi had previously escaped numerous efforts by American forces to locate and kill him. http://www.guardian.co.uk/...

The death of Zarqawi comes just as an apparent Bush Administration shift away from threats of military action against Iran toward a diplomatic solution to rising U.S.-Iranian tensions.

Far from the huge victory for the U.S. military that this is being portrayed, the killing of Zarqawi marks the beginning of the end of U.S. attempts to control the outcome in Iraq, and a compromise with Iran, which will surely now move to consolidate control over oil-rich majority Shi'a areas of southern and central Iraq.
____________
2006. Mark G. Levey

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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:47 AM
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10. Who are these people? who wrote this article?
This is too weird?
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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:16 AM
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24. CNN just said that someone within Zarqawi's organization gave him up
I guess this is the reason why.
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:58 AM
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11. It also pushes the Haditha murders to the back burner.
The radio report I listened to mentioned that the insurgency grew after Saddam Hussein was captured. This seems to be "big news" over what is probably an inconsequential event.

Thanks for posting this tritsofme.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:26 AM
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15. Yup
K&R
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:04 AM
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13. Wow - is it possible Al Qaeda fingered their own man?
Letting the U.S. get rid of a man who had become a liability and creating a martyr in the same stroke? That would have all manner of curious implications, wouldn't it.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:26 AM
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16. Ding....Ding....n/t
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 07:42 AM
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17. this makes plenty of sense
Great way to eliminate someone who is more trouble than they are worth. You have to figure that bush and company knew the same thing. Yet they pretend they have done something special for killing the man El Qaeda wanted dead.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:01 AM
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18. Kickin' this one
:kick:

Hasn't he been "killed" a dozen times? Seems like his name gets trotted out every time * needs a boost in the polls...I can't keep track any more....
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:03 AM
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20. Once again, Osama triumphs
He's gotten just about everything he really wanted. The infidels out of the holy land, an ascendency of militant Islam, demonization of the West and a new set of glorious martyrs to worship and inspire the people.

Thanks, Shrub. Thanks a lot.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:10 AM
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22. Exactly!
AND, that worthless piece of crap Zarqawi in now an asset in this asymmetrical war: a martyr.


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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:12 AM
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23. Kicked and Recommended great OP
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:25 AM
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25. kick
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:42 AM
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26. Dunnigan's predicted this for awhile, but he might have already known
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 09:51 AM by sofa king
For example, this post on December 13, 2005.

I pay a lot of attention to Strategy Page because author James Dunnigan has impressive sources within the Department of Defense and the intelligence community, and has had them for the better part of twenty years. But there's another reason, not unrelated.

There are persistent rumors that one of the more recent and valuable intelligence collection devices is some sort of mechanism by which the US intelligence community is aware of news stories as they are filed, rather than when those stories are actually published, even on the Internet (see NSA expert James Bamford's article on the Rendon Group here, where it's called "Livewire").

This tool was purportedly developed because the spooks were getting annoyed at being scooped by CNN on a regular basis. Among other things, "Livewire" potentially provides a 12- to 48- hour window of opportunity for the federal government to react to bad news--or to censor or contradict that bad news before it actually becomes public. It almost certainly involves intercepting stories as they are turned in to the editor, either surreptitiously or with the cooperation of the media.

Dunnigan's posting date of June 7 here in the U.S. does not necessarily precede Zarqawi's actual (supposed, this time) death at roughly 6 am. local time on June 8 in Iraq. Does Dunnigan have access to Livewire, or access to someone who does? Maybe. He probably also has access to people within SOCOM, so he may have heard of it directly from the horse's mouth.

Strategypage has also created a public version of the terrorist speculation market, part of the Total Information Awareness program that was to be run by Iran-Contra felon Admiral John Poindexter. It was ostensibly shut down, but Doug Thompson claims it was simply reopened in Arlington without Congressional oversight.

So I read Dunnigan's site occasionally just to keep my finger on the pulse of the neofascist shadow government which now controls our lives. That, I think, is called a "fair warning" to the rest of you.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:28 AM
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36. Thank You for pointing out that information source. DU'ers can be
so helpful and giving.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:49 AM
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28. yeah, like he ever existed to begin with
the guy in the video was incompetent. He couldn't lead pigs to mud.

and I'm really sure Bushco found him. For a group who can't find oil in Texas.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:08 AM
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31. Zarqawi was fired in March - link to kpete post about it.
Who had the authority to fire him? Shouldn't they be considered even more dangerous?
It makes sense that he was probably ratted out by his peers and the strike was made easier because THEY wanted to get rid of him.
I don't expect there will be a lot of change in the insurgency. We didn't get the current leader.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1381460
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:11 AM
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32. I'll keep this OP kicked up for sure. it needs no more votes
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:19 AM
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33. kick, kick, and kick some more (nt)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:21 AM
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34. K & R
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:22 AM
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35. Holy friggin' psychic powers batman!!
That's the best prognostication I have seen in a long time!!

Someone is paying attention.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:41 AM
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37. LOL! Headline reads "MURPHY'S LAW:Zarqawi Scheduled for Martyrdom"
Got that right.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 12:03 PM
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38. Someone from AlQ will probably claim the reward
Not good to have a price on your head and everyone not needing you any more.
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speedingbullet Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:51 PM
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42. Not Bad For a Days Work
I was wondering about this as well. Al Queda gets rid of a problem and a wins the lottery, too. $25 million will buy a lot of IEDs.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 01:16 PM
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39. Well then, it sounds as if there may have been motive for Zarqawi
to have been murdered by his own people. Then the U.S. trys to take credit for the kill. Typical propaganda.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:04 PM
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40. K & R
nice find...
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:44 PM
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41. Wow! Them schedules sure are good! Like Mussolini's trains!

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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 07:02 PM
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45. Olbermann talking about this now
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