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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:21 AM
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Dixie Chicks tour struggling in several markets
(anyway to verify this?? and sorry was found on DR)


NASHVILLE (Billboard) - Initial ticket sales for the Dixie Chicks' upcoming tour are far below expectations and several dates will likely be canceled or postoned.

Ticket counts for the 20-plus arena shows that went on sale last weekend were averaging 5,000-6,000 per show in major markets and less in secondaries, according to sources contacted by Billboard. Venue capacities on the tour generally top 15,000.

In contrast, the band's new album, "Taking the Long Way," sold 526,000 units in its first week, according to Nielsen Soundscan, the third-largest sales week of 2006. The album logged a second week in the period ended June 4, according to sales data issued Wednesday.

Despite those numbers, early ticket sales are clearly not meeting projections. The plug was pulled on public on-sales for shows in Indianapolis (August 23), Oklahoma City (September 26), Memphis (September 27) and Houston (September 30) because of tepid pre-sales in a national promotion with Target stores.

The Memphis show has been pulled off the route and the status of the shows in Indianapolis, Houston and Oklahoma City remains uncertain. Industry speculation has it that much or all of the tour may be postponed. At the very least, it is likely routing and capacity will be reconfigured.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=entertainmentNews&storyid=2006-06-07T230808Z_01_N07224908_RTRUKOC_0_US-DIXIE.xml&src=rss&rpc=22
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:24 AM
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1. Bummer. My daughter has two tickets to the OKC
show.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:25 PM
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43. Rolling Stone: Country Rockers the Dixie Chicks Stay on Top #1
"The Dixie Chicks held onto the top spot for a second consecutive week, with the much-hyped, more rock-tinged Taking the Long Way selling another 271,000 copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan."

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10509842/country_rockers_the_dixie_chicks_stay_on_top
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:25 AM
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2. they need to tour in the blue states
They'd get bigger crowds.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:28 AM
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3. At the rates Clear Channel's charging, I doubt ANY tour is doing well...
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 08:28 AM by ClassWarrior
...this summer. I bought tickets to another show recently, and the service charges nearly DOUBLED the already-expensive ticket price.

NGU.


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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:44 AM
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9. exactly class warrior I only paid $5 to see Jimi Hendrix for Christ's sake
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 08:46 AM by Jeffersons Ghost
on edit: Old hippie types are willing to buy their CDs but not pay today's ridiculous prices for tickets.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:46 AM
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10. You saw Hendrix!!? I'm not worthyyy...
:headbang:

NGU.


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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:20 AM
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22. I saw him too
at the University of Oklahoma greekweek hehe can you dig it?
1970
tib
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:54 AM
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26. I'm not sure what I paid for Hendrix....
It was at Houston's Music Hall & Soft Machine opened. Probably pretty cheap.

HOWEVER--we old hippy types need to get out of the house sometimes. Support your local musicians!

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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:04 PM
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41. I paid $3.50 to see him at Woolsey Hall - New Haven, CT
We had tickets for the second show, but we got there very early, climbed up the outside of the building to the exterior window wells (about 10' or so off the ground - thank you elm trees!) and watched the first show through the window!!
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:28 AM
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4. The Chicks need to stick to blue cities !
The red state goobers spend their entertainment dollars on cars driving around in a circle.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:38 AM
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6. I think sales are doing well in the blue states...
The tour starts here in Detroit and that show has sold quite well.
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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:41 AM
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8. Indianapolis:
Mayor Bart Peterson DEMOCRAT
US Congress Julia Carson DEMOCRAT
City County Council - split down the middle
More democratic state reps than any other county in the state.


I personally don't spend my entertainment dollars on cars driving around in circles OR listening to country music so this "red state goober" thinks YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!!!!
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Ex Lion Tamer Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:58 AM
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14. I wish it were so . . .
but I live here in Indy too, and I'd definitely say it's full of red state goobers.

Not including you and me, of course!
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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:37 AM
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27. Hi Ex Lion Tamer!
True, you can't shake a stick around here without hitting a right-winger but I can't let a sweeping generalization about my city or state pass without saying something.

Now I think I'll go shake some sticks because I kinda like hitting right-wingers with sticks.

BTW - If you want to meet other local DUers, check in at the Indiana forum. We try to get together from time to time.
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Ex Lion Tamer Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:49 PM
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29. I hope they're big sticks . . .
so that it hurts!

I'll check into the forum; I've never looked into those.
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:32 AM
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5. That sucks, I was going to go to the one in Memphis
How much are the tickets
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:40 AM
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7. Well, the original Billboard article is at
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002649839

I'm not surprised, either. I'm sure they're getting NO play in Clear Channel saturated markets. The only play they've gotten in this town is on the college station.

Plus, people aren't able to pony up the price of concert tickets plus the gas to get there and back. I doubt this is exclusive to the Dixie Chicks, but they're high profile so they get the story.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:49 AM
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11. They are high profile
AND everybody is SUPPOSED to hate them. They get no air play on country stations, and no doubt their tour gets no advertising on those stations as well. A segment of the industry is actively working against them so despite their best-selling album I'm sure there are a lot of people who have no idea they are even on tour, much less when they will be where.
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GR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:52 AM
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12. I Wonder If This Is Legit....I Couldn't Buy Tickets For KC Concert...
They were only selling internet tickets for those with special passwords...I wanted to buy tickets but couldn't but read in morning Star that August 20th date has been postponed...

They are $68 for the top ticket and there will be a service charge...of at least $12 on top of that...

But I'll still buy tickets, if and when they come on sale...
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:55 AM
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13. I think low ticket sales,
reflect the economy more then the DC's popularity.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:13 AM
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18. Well, the album sold almost 50% less this week than last
Enough to still keep them at #1 but it's becoming apparent that they've lost a significant portion of their base at least in the US.

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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 12:30 PM
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28. Well principal is important,
and if the DC stand on principal i'll stand with them.


Peace!
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:40 AM
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54. It's not unusual for sales to drop significantly from week 1 to week 2
especially on such a highly-anticipated album. I wonder how many copies the #2 album sold this week?
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:05 AM
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15. What would Billboard know about it. Sounds like a plant.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:54 PM
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30. Billboard's one of the major music related industry rags
I would think they have access to pretty damn reliable information when it comes to ticket figures.
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:57 PM
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31. And they have zero axe to grind, you can trust them.
darnit.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:51 PM
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34. Good Lord!
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 04:01 PM by theboss
That's like saying that Variety is not reliable on movie industry news.
Billboard is the only outlet that would have accurate ticket sale numbers.
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:54 PM
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35. The tip off is the name "deaniac."
If not for the name, I would believe the post was meant to be sarcastic, a swipe at those who have a knee-jerk denial of any news they don't want to hear. But the name Deaniac? It might actually be sincere, or else its a higher level of humor, playing off the very fact that someone who calls themself "deaniac" would be most likely to engage in rationalization and denial on hearing news they don't want to hear.

I am on the fence on this one.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:08 AM
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16. I wonder how other concerts at similar prices are doing in those markets.
This could be an issue of people just not having the spare cash to afford very expensive concert tickets.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:13 AM
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17. Here are prices for the Houston shows--now apparently cancelled....
The Venue is Toyota Center, where the Rockets play (or don't play). Prices? $180 to $240 apiece--sold in groups of 2 or 4 only. www.buyselltix.com/searchTickets.php

On the Chicks' site, Houston is "TBA." www.dixiechicks.com/06_ontour.asp

And Ticketmaster doesn't show any Houston show at all.

Touring bands OFTEN skip Houston--they'll hit Dallas and/or Austin, instead.

At those prices--I'll keep buying their CD's. Wish success to the Dixie Chicks & go see your local musicians!

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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:18 AM
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21. Geez, who could afford that?
I love the D-Chicks, but that is way out of my price range. Oh for the days of $10-$15 concerts.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:15 AM
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19. It's not a big surprise. Concerts are expensive, and the
so-called disposable income is getting hammered.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:15 AM
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20. Well Dee Dee Dee Tennessee.
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:28 AM
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23. They haven't gone on sale..
..in the cities mentioned. Cancel a concert based on Target promotion sale? I've ordered tickets for the Houston show using the promotion, but the concert is not available yet on Ticketmaster.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:53 AM
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25. That gives me hope for Houston.....
Although I'll probably miss the show. Those prices!

(Since you live in the Woodlands--I'd like to salute the Cynthia Woods Mitchell pavilion, with its cheap or free "lawn" seating. Too bad it's a long drive from Downtown.)





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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:32 AM
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24. This is going to happen a lot to a lot of groups
This summer is chock-full of festivals with pricey tickets. But they give you 10 or 12 bands per day for about the same as a ticket to see a single band. It may be $80, but you get your money's worth. A lot of shows that were tentatively scheduled for Chicago have been postponed or canceled because virtually every weekend has some major package going on, from Pitchfork to Lollapalooza, etc.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:02 PM
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32. I'm a fan of theirs
but I haven't had a bona fide paycheck in two years. I can no more afford to go to a major concert like that than I can afford to buy a yacht.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:49 PM
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33. I don't think this bodes well for them long term
I am now extremely curious to see how their next album does. It seems like they marketed their album as some sort of a political statement. And people are willing, I think, to make a political statement for a one-time $15 purchase.

But you need your hard-core fanbase in order to sell concert tickets. And they have apparently lost their hard-core fan base.

You can blame on whoever you want, but the Dixie Chicks not being able to sell out arenas in Texas is like Springsteen failing to sell out the Meadowlands, Billy Joel struggling on Long Island, or Mellencamp having trouble in Indianapolis. It's a bad sign.

And a country act that has to rely on New York or Massachusetts is having issues.

Obviously, they are not going to go hungry. And obviously, they still move a lot of product. But they are now a mid-level act at best. You can have a long and lucrative career at that level. (Ask REM). But they are no longer at the Kenney Chesney/Tim McGraw/Faith Hill level in country music.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:55 PM
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36. What a Bullshit title for the article
Dixie Chicks debuted #1 on Rolling STones & Billboard charts. And althought they may not sell well in areas where they are previously a mainstain (red state country music areas) they are doing well in other regions where they preivously had no market.

This is just bullshit
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:57 PM
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37. They're way better looking than M-ann Coulter to boot.
;)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:58 PM
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38. And in Greensboro, which isn't exactly in a blue state
(pre-sale tickets are doing very well)
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:04 PM
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40. Concert sales are more important to artists than album sales
Artists makes most of their money on tour.

And I think that it is significant that what was once the most popular country group in the country has to cancel shows in Texas - where they got their start - for lack of ticket sales.

As I said earlier, this would be like Jimmy Buffet suddenly unable to sell out venues in Florida.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:13 PM
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52. But Jimmy Buffett doesn't limit himself to just florida
if that was the case - he'd be screwed.

Dixies are proving to be quite popular in new areas and especially in areas with higher population counts and average incomes. Perhaps it was fulling of the Dixie Chicks to think they could stride into Country Music strongholds like Oklahoma or Tennessee and expect soldout crowds. Had I been their tour organizer I would have sticked to the market areas where their albums are selling well and allowed 'word-of-mouth' excitement grow about what a great album this CD is. I'm not keen on their earlier work because it is too countrish for me. But this album I do like. Perhaps I'll see if I can get some tickets for here in Philadelphia area.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:09 PM
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42. I would have been shocked if they hadn't debuted at #1
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 04:09 PM by Mike Daniels
The build up and controversy was enough to guarantee that people who were going to buy the album would rush out that first week as a sort of statement.

The test is how much of each prior week's sales do they retain. They had an almost 50% drop in sales from last week to this week. That indicates that the majority of people likely to buy the album bought it the first week it was on sale.

One can try to be as optimistic as they want but the figures are not showing a positive long term trend for this album at this time. Even debuting at #1 they sold less albums that first week than they did with the prior studio album.

They aren't going to be out of a job but I wouldn't be surprised to see them focus more on the overseas sales and concert market from here on out for a couple of years.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:29 PM
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45. They still have viable careers
But you can pretty much end the "Superstar" chapter of their career.

Do country artists do well overseas?
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documaker Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:02 PM
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39. Rock on, ladies!
Stood their ground and came back swinging.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:29 PM
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44. Rolling Stone Magazine: Country Rockers the Dixie Chicks Stay on Top #1
“The Dixie Chicks held onto the top spot for a second consecutive week, with the much-hyped, more rock-tinged Taking the Long Way selling another 271,000 copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan.”

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10509842/country_rockers_the_dixie_chicks_stay_on_top
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:30 PM
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46. ALL summer tours are suffering....
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 04:32 PM by zulchzulu
Let's see the Freep Sheep mention this teensy weensy little factor...

http://money.cnn.com/2004/06/25/news/newsmakers/summer_concerts/

Snip:

Singin' the summer concert blues
Music industry feels the pain as Christina, Britney and Marc bow out of tours. Are fans in revolt?
June 25, 2004: 3:00 PM EDT
By Krysten Crawford, CNN/Money staff writer

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - The summer concert season is looking a bit sickly these days, and not just because Britney Spears has a bum knee.

At least four top draws -- Spears, Christina Aguilera, Marc Anthony and Jessica Simpson -- have cancelled some or all of their tours, costing themselves, promoters and T-shirt vendors, not to mention people like stadium security guards, millions of dollars in lost ticket and merchandise sales, publicity, and income.

But these bowouts tell only half the story.

The other half: ticket sales have slowed across the $2.5 billion concert industry.

In response, Clear Channel Entertainment, the world's largest producer of live entertainment, has slashed ticket prices twice in recent weeks.

In two markets, San Antonio and San Francisco, the company has recently offered up lawn tickets to all of its shows for just $10 and $20 apiece.

"It's almost like the business went off a cliff and it has not come back yet," said Gary Bongiovanni, the editor-in-chief of Pollstar, a weekly magazine that tracks the concert industry.

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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:15 AM
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53. That article is two years old
I don't think Britney's bad knee is affecting 2006.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:32 PM
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47. how much are tix?
the touring business is in a slump. unless you're u2 or bruce, you're going to be struggling. (incidentally, the best seats in u2's audience were only $45, which may explain why they survived while other tours struggled to fill to capacity)
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Innocent Smith Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:22 PM
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48. They canceled their Fresno stop
The local news quoted their manager as saying it was because their European Tour was going so well. I didn't really buy the explanation.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:09 PM
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49. I wouldn't worry about it, though....
Fresno's not a big college town.

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Innocent Smith Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:30 PM
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51. I think Fresno is a country music type of place
Fresno now has the big Save Mart Center which seats something like 15,000 people so it is getting more big acts. CSNY is coming in July and I'd be tempted to go if the ticket prices weren't so high.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:24 PM
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50. Their new release is selling well
considering the lack of airplay. As far as the tour goes, I have no answer except I have tickets to a show. You can help get them on the air.
http://www.dixiechicks.com/06_request.asp
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