They swore there were WMD's for 2 Years, yet we're to believe the Z story?

[Philosoraptor]

So forgive someone who doubts the official white house and official white house media stories.

I have learned over the last 6 years not to believe everything I hear from the very first minute I hear it from these habitual liars and mass murderers.

For all we know some soldiers may come forward with details that conflict the official stories, like with Jessica Lynch, and Abu Ghraib, etc.

Remember the Saddam Captured in a Spider Hole story? It was a lie, but no one knew till soldiers came forward.

It took 6 months for the truth about Haditha to surface, after the official story was proven to be a lie and a cover up.

We should all let things settle for a few days, or even a few hours as the lies are separated from the facts.

[fooj]

1. Well said. I couldn't agree more.

[Jigarotta]

2. yep. wait and see for me.

I rarely believe Anything that coils out from the shit tubes media at face value.

fucking liars, why would I start believing their details on Z's death now...

edit: tpyo.

[BlooInBloo]

3. It's hard to argue with that.

[Stand and Fight]

4. Recommended...

Because I haven't the energy to say anything more.

[Philosoraptor]

5. They've told 6,000 lies, but today, we can start believing them.

[The_Casual_Observer]

6. Wait another couple of weeks & see if this makes any difference.

That is the acid test isn't it?

[Philosoraptor]

7. The Haditha lies took 6 months to be proven.

The Nigerian Yellow cake lies too.

[The_Casual_Observer]

11. It won't take that long this time.

[treestar]

8. I agree, in fact it shows the limitations of the media today

We can never be sure what happened and it is smart to question the media's ability to swing things.

We have to assume that this guy had anything to do with Al Qaeda, that he is who they say he is, did what they say he did - really when you get right down to it, it is their ability to make things up that is the issue here - we should start demanding real proof of these claims. Real proof. Of course, they'd claim it would "compromise national security."

[Philosoraptor]

9. A photograph is proof here.

Remember the gigantic crowds pulling down Saddam's statue? Turned out it was staged and there were only a few folks and they were bussed in.

All is not what it seems.

[treestar]

14. Not to mention the doctoring of photos now possible - how many

doctored photos of Shrub are there on DU alone?

[TallahasseeGrannie]

10. Where did the capture story ever end up?

First it was a spider hole. Then a Leganese soldier said he'd been captured the day before in a small cottage. Then we hear the Kurds had him locked into a spider hole.

What was the final story? Has it come up at his trial?

[Jigarotta]

13. this story has Z handed over to the Iraqi's...

is what I read in some of the articles posted.

I don't understand that.
which Iraqi's - the police, the who? and why would the US 'hand over' one of the biggest Waldo's to those 'not quite prepared to defend themselves yet' Iraqi's?

maybe I'm missing something really obvious that would make this make sense, please let me know if so.

[deaniac21]

12. finally a reliable source!

http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

[Philosoraptor]

15. I'm not saying he's not dead, just that our govt. hasn't been too truthful

[slaveplanet]

16. believe it at your own risk

My bet is the US had nothing, Nada, Zip to do with Zarqawi's demise.
I believe he was taken out by Iraqis then the bombings were staged afterward to be shoved down America's throat.

He's probably been dead for several days while they figured out how to spin this.