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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 12:57 PM
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GOP 20 points down for Congress - November asskicking to follow.
Here's a great entry from Griper Blade blog that's very encouraging:

http://griperblade.blogspot.com/2006/06/november-cant-happen-soon-enough.html">November Can't Happen Soon Enough

The latest AP-Ipsos poll gives Democrats a 20 point lead over Republicans on the question of who voters want to control congress. <snip>

It's going to suck to be a Republican in November, they're just not getting any love. I've heard a lot of people saying that conservatives will run on immigration in November, but that may not be the wisest idea. A CNN poll of people's priorities shows that the only thing people are less concerned about is, disturbingly, domestic surveillance. The priorities above it are terrorism, Iraq, gas prices, the economy, and government corruption - all issues where polling shows the GOP sucks in terms of public opinion. If they want to run on that, I say go ahead - no one's especially freaked out about it. <snip>


Entire article here: http://griperblade.blogspot.com/2006/06/november-cant-happen-soon-enough.html
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:12 PM
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1. The California special election has me convinced
that it will not be a romp. Bilbray ran a great campaign and Busby ran a horrible campaign. Bilbray outspent her by a wide margin, but when isn't that the case? The republican ALWAYS outspends. The republican always stands for something. The democrat, you never have a fricking idea what they are for. The voters aren't going to elect 'what's behind door number two' Duers in San Diego even said they had no clue what Busby stood for. Bilbray was for stopping illegal immigration - and he made sure everyone knew that. Busby was hoping Bilbray would be called back to his home planet before the election. No strategy. No message. No money. Every God damn time. I hope they prove me wrong, but this was very demoralizing for me. Even more demoralizing, my local candidates don't seem to be doing anything whatsoever, except Ben Nelson who is running commercials saying he's going to cut taxes and eliminate the "Death Tax" What a crap week!

sorry for the defeatist rant. I'll be better next week.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:23 PM
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2. Got Diebold?
You do.. I'm real sorry about that.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:33 PM
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10. Bingo. They won't give up power through a mere "election."
Tough to control all those congressional races, but martial law is for all in one swell foop. All they need is an attack on us. That can be arranged. Remember who we are dealing with.



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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:32 PM
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9. There is no cause for despair here.
The district is as red as Rudolph's nose. She was clobbered with money. They took a last minute statement and twisted it into something where she answered a question she had to clarify. Does anyone think Busby wants illegals to vote? Of course not, they twisted it. She still came within 4 points. Plus ballots are still being counted.

But the important thing, is Bilbray is right on the pointed end of a picket fence. Every step he makes in Congress can be cataloged. The first miscue he makes (and he will), what's his excuse going to be in November? He can't do anything about immigration because the two bodies are light years apart. This will cost him more votes in the November election.

The Democrats will be out in droves because this is the election of the millennium. All we have to do now is point out to the pukes how big of a mistake they made on the 6th. We only lost the battle, I think the war is looking real good. :beer:



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Griper Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:10 PM
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3. 20 points are hard to make up
Thanks for posting my article. It seems to me that 20% is a pretty wide margin to overcome. That same survey shows that 70% think that the country's headed in the wrong direction, so there may be a real 'vote the bums out' sentiment going on here.

As far as what dems stand for, it should be the issues that people care about - terrorism, Iraq, gas prices, the economy, and government corruption. If the republicans want to run on illegal immigration, we should turn it around on them and make the debate about domestic security; bring up the Dubai ports deal and the Canadian terrorism plot. 'Fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them here' isn't a very comforting strategy when 'over there' is 150 miles from Buffalo, NY. Since the polls show immigration is a relatively minor priority and terrorism is the top one, dems will be addressing an issue people are concerned about, while the republicans will be talking about an issue that doesn't concern a lot of people. This will look like pandering and most people aren't going to like that.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 03:26 PM
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12. Hi Griper!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 03:40 PM
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13. Welcome - comment makes all kinds of sense
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:16 PM
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4. The gerrymandering across the country may stymie that which
may seem inevitable. Delay's legacy.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:31 PM
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8. I agree... in a year that would have had a MAJOR shift
we will be unlikely to see huge movement...

The only question is will it JUST be enough to switch control.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:18 PM
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5. it is for the dems to lose
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 02:20 PM by mdmc
don't believe diebold
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:20 PM
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6. terror shouldn't even be on the list.
we've got MILLIONS of "soft targets", and yet none of them have suffered a single blow since the war on terra started. people have got to stop drinking the koolaid- there is NO terror threat in the u.s.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:30 PM
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7. Generic polls don't vote- nor are computer gerrymanders
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 02:30 PM by JCMach1
very moveable.

I hope to be wrong, but I am not extraordinarily hopeful...

Not to mention the voting machines, roll purges, and other grey and black vote suppression tactics...
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:55 PM
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11. In an ideal America
This would be a cinch.

Nothing is ideal. The Republicans discovered the effectiveness of playing
foul with the "Dirty Tricks" team in Nixon's 1968 campaign. Dirty Tricks
alumnus Roger Ailes now runs Fox "News." Some things remain a constant.

If we had a one man, one vote system, then yes, the Republican situation
would be looking pretty hopeless. But they have their voting machines, which
they program, they report the count, and they cart off the hard drives once
they report the results. Verification is not permitted. What they say goes.
Not surprisingly, what they say is that they won.

Add to that coordinated efforts at making sure that voters in heavily Democratic
precincts are prevented from voting, and then calling every such event an isolated
glitch, and you have a formula that Stalin or Saddam would be proud of, but
hardly Thomas Jefferson.

I wish I could be encouraged by the numbers. I guess I am, but not to the point
where I think they are indicative of what will be reported as election results. I
am sadly prepared for more "surprise Republican upsets."

Six months before the 2004 presidential election, I was asked for my prediction.
I said: "Kerry wins the election, and Bush remains in office." My friends all
wondered what I meant by that. They don't ask any more. They know.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 04:10 PM
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14. I can't wait!
Until we bury those shitheads twenty feet down.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 04:12 PM
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15. but in the Diebold states, the religious wack jobs
are gearing up for a miraculous victory
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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 05:01 PM
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16. Yes. Rove's secret voters will strike again. nt
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