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scoopmeister Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:33 PM
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Dems can't win in '06 if they don't talk about the WAR

http://www.attytood.com/archives/003514.html

Incredibly, the Dem insiders think they can just breeze their way to victory in November by only talking about middle-class utopia -- even as an 800-pound gorilla named Baghdad is doing the macarena up on stage right behind the podium. And you know, it could work -- if the mess in Mesopotania were just one of a dozen or so things on the minds of voters.

But it's not.

This poll taken last month by CBS News shows that more voters -- when asked to volunteer the biggest problem facing America -- mention Iraq than anything else, and that number is growing. Some 28 percent mentioned Iraq and only 15 percent cited the next highest, jobs and the economy.

So hitting the campaign trail with a plan for America that doesn't mention America's biggest problem? Good plan!

...read the rest.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:40 PM
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1. Kerry... Resolution for Pullout...
Murtha Pullout... come on. NOT talk about Iraq?
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:56 PM
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5. Yeah, but will Democrats vote for the Kerry Resolution?
I'm not so sure they all get it yet. Certainly Feingold does, as Kerry now does, but the rest of them?

Ask yourself why Frist would allow a vote on the Kerry Resolution if he thought it would line up the Democrats united against the war versus the Republicans united for the war. Frist could kill the Kerry amendment on procedural grounds, but he apparently isn't. Why not?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:47 PM
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2. The democrat plan is for timetables for exiting.
As John Kerry rightly pointed out, this so-called Iraqi government can't produce unless we set a timeline. Kerry and Murtha both have war experience, something the Bush chickenhawks know nothing about.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:54 PM
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4. Even on the Democratic side, many of those willing to stay the longest
have no service - Clinton, Biden, Bayh, Warner, and (I think) Reid. (That Kerry, Murtha, Cleland and Kerrey all together says something.)
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:53 PM
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3. You are 100% correct.
The extent to which the Dems avoid talking about the Iraq situation and the other ChimpCo failures is the extent to which they LOSE in November.

The extent to which they run a strictly so-called positive campaign, while the Repugs run rip-shod all over them, is the extent to which they LOSE in November.

The extent to which they try to run a so-called centrist campaign on so-called centrist issues, is the extent to which they LOSE in November.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:57 PM
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6. If the dems win it won't be because of anything they have done
but rather what the repukes have done
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:23 PM
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8. That's not something the Dems should boast about
When you win solely because of the incompetence of your adversary and not necessarily because of anything you did (or did not do) to win. That kind of strategy is why so little of the electorate is ever invigorated enough to vote.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:59 PM
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7. Agreed - It's all that people who aren't pol junkies like us talk about
"Let's get the hell out of Iraq now" is all I keep hearing from friends and relatives who aren't political junkies like I am but know that I am really into it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:30 PM
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9. What's new? That's why we lose......
Some cede National Security and Foreign policy to the Repugs. :eyes:

Guess the GOP have got the Dems believing that the GOP have the upper hand on this issue.....which they don't.

The Democrats who don't want to discuss the War in Iraq will not win. We must talk as the "full service" party that we are.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:36 PM
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10. Don't talk about the war
talk about LYING. Lying about WMD. Lying about Iraq & 9/11. Lying about Saddam. Lying about hugs & flowers. Lying about uranium from Niger. Lying about how many troops we need. Lying about "Mission Accomplished". Not allowing caskets to be seen. Smirk not attending any funerals.

Wars happen - Clinton & Clark liberated Kosovo & put down Milosevic. It's the lies, stupid.
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