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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:04 PM Original message |
Southern Baptists say wives must "submit graciously" to husbands... |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. Southern Baptists disapprove of sex while standing up cuz |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
54. The way I heard it, "Why do Southern Baptists oppose sex?" |
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pstans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. The American Taliban would like to turn the clock back to 1850 |
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HawkerHurricane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Well, they couldn't turn it any further back than that... |
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DODI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. At least in 1850 abortion was legal. |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. sounds like a blank check for abuse to me |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. It is just that...a blank check for abuse. |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. it is so sad, we have a very blessed society |
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blue neen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
42. This is not love. These are not marriages. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 09:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
80. Yes, it's all about control. (nt) |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
4. The American Taliban. |
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blue neen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. I know of Baptist churches in Florida that require the women to |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
71. The Talibornagain |
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mumon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. What if.... |
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idgiehkt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. I heard this at both of my brother's weddings. |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. These men must have had a flag up for these women |
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kevinbgoode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 02:16 AM Response to Reply #26 |
87. I have often thought there were certain personality types who |
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Crazy Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. This particular baptist minister used to preach that exact..... |
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Humor_In_Cuneiform (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. Seems like an argument against marriage for women. |
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Joey Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
11. They truly are the American Taliban n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. And they blanket the South with their power....unfortunately. |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Is this it? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. That's it. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
98. Thank god I live in CT |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. I assume this refers to Southern Baptists |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Yes, there is a big difference. |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
66. And I'm sure the differences started in the formation. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. And the original Baptists believed very strongly in religious tolerance |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 02:53 AM Response to Reply #73 |
89. Yeah, I was originally raised Baptist |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
37. This Shows them to be a Minority Even In the Bible Belt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. It is the influence they have....25 to 50% can have big effect. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
79. They're the largest Protestant denomination in the US n/t |
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Joey Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Oh, they are BAD here in Oklahoma |
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Charlie Brown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
48. Sadly, that is true |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 03:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
57. Well, let's remember why they are called Southern Baptists |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
46. When the Baptists |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
14. They WOULD say that wouldn't they the randy boys? |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
15. Ironically, the same biblical passage that deals with this, |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. Beyond equal |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
16. No change in policy. *YAWN* |
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idgiehkt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. it seems to me that they are more outspoken about it now, though |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
17. Thereby creating the personality known as "passive aggresive"..n/t |
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Bob3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
20. two comments: |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. hahaha--I love Molly Ivins! |
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meow2u3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 09:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
81. I'd personally LOVE to baptize some of those Baptists |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
22. And wear a corset all the time |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
24. I still check out the SBC site every once in a while. |
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Charlie Brown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
51. It's very odd to me that Rice, a single career woman (and pro-choice) |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. The rules are different for those of the ruling class. |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
25. I don't like to use foul language, so I'm going to have to think carefully |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
27. Is this the same church from which Jimmy Carter.... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
93. Yep |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
28. Why do they care if a leader drinks, |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. It's their interpretation of the drinking verses. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
62. They're against drinking juice? |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 08:41 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. They're against drinking wine, so they interpret it as juice. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
30. And people wonder why I hate the SBC. They are the American Taliban. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
34. the IRC nuts who took over the Southern Baptists are after Protestants now |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
35. Southern Baptist is a very violent religion |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
36. These men are using religion as a means to dominate WOMEN |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
63. I don't recall ever having met any woman gullible to fall for such |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 08:42 PM Response to Reply #63 |
77. I have. |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
38. They are the real American Talibans |
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blue neen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
41. A man who requires his wife to "submit graciously" is NOT a man. |
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Charlie Brown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
43. I don't mean to gripe, but they made that declaration years ago, not 2006 |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. And the new president of the SBC made it a point to reinforce it. |
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Charlie Brown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Did he? I didn't read that in the link |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Perhaps I misread, but I'm not digging around on their site anymore |
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long_green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 04:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
97. That's an interesting step for them to take |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #43 |
58. They started the submissive thing years ago....they let it stand. |
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Charlie Brown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. there are a lot of other groups besides SBs and Catholics who oppose gays |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
47. They're not the only ones. |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
55. Why do they think only men can be ministers? |
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Nicole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #55 |
72. Because women are supposed to shut up in church |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
78. Only men were the apostles, is the usual argument. |
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Hidden Stillness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
56. This Ugly Filth is Not Christianity |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
60. I'm *SO* proud my city is hosting this. |
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The Flaming Red Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
61. That bunch of beer gutted fat assed hypocrites |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
64. It's not just the Southern Baptists, I'm afraid. My in-laws are Mormon, |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 02:07 AM Response to Reply #64 |
86. my in-laws too, and |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
65. Bet the hookers in Greensboro had a good week |
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lolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 07:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Maybe not so much |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
67. A real man wants a woman to want to be with him. |
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Biernuts (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
68. Not good enough - their wives should submit to ANY husband |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
69. "Southern Baptists go Dry"...more details about the drinking ban. |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. Jesus turned water into grape juice, after all |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
82. Often drinking isn't really part of their culture |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
74. Standard Republican method of courtship >>>>>>>> |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
83. They are out of their minds. |
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Corgigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
84. submit graciously" to husbands |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 10:44 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Chuckle. |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 02:33 AM Response to Reply #84 |
88. :D i always wondered when SB husbands submit to their wives |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 02:57 AM Response to Original message |
90. People and proclamations like that make me really glad |
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peekaloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
91. I need a drink after reading this article. |
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tinfoil tiaras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
92. I go to a Baptist church (in the south) |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
94. Good lesson for all women and their daughters....never marry |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
95. All the Babtists I know are ashamed that these people call themselves... |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
96. Is it ok for them to smoke pot? |
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ProgressivePatriot (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
99. Thier kids must submit to daddy, too., |
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