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Mon Jun-19-06 10:20 AM
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What does "Love it or leave it" mean to you? |
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To me, it means "Love Bush or leave it"
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:26 AM
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Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 10:31 AM by Marr
It's clearly not "my team, right or wrong", since the people spouting that phrase were certainly not "loving it" when Clinton was in office. Like all right wing slogans, it's hollow, self-contradictory, hypocritical bullshit meant to shut down debate- not facilitate it.
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:26 AM
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profess to love America, but in reality don't actually use/celebrate any of the rights which people have died defending and/or creating. Or leave it.
And if the President is a liberal, then it is your duty to use all of those rights (and then some) in the attempt to bring him down.*
* I added this because I don't recall Lefties ever telling the Montana Freemen or "small government" activist Repukes or "keep your hands off my trust fund" Libertarians to "love it or leave it" during Clinton's terms.
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:26 AM
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who cares what you think you are expendable get out!
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:27 AM
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It's been around for many years, and I always found it quite a contrary phrase. It was used during the Vietnam era, and it was essentially, go to Vietnam as a soldier for the US, or get the hell out of the country, period.
The unfortunate thing is, some people DID decide to leave, and got into trouble as conscientious objectors. So how wrong is that? They WANT you to leave, but block your path to leaving!
I would like to rephrase it: "Love the rich, protect us, or be sent to jail." Doesn't that sum it up a lot better?
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:27 AM
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4. i see that bumper sticker |
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occasionally, where i live, and i think about a dem dominated administration, and how they will feel then? will this adage still be operable for these people then?
somehow, i doubt it.
then they'll be screaming: "take our country back!"
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:28 AM
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5. When corruption and greed are |
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where they like it, that's when they spew "Love it or Leave it".
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:28 AM
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6. Oh, I'm sure that's the type of people who usually say that! |
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That ONLY works if a group is in total control and with such a large majority there's no chance of ever changing things. I'm sure that's what they'd like to think, but it sure looks to me like they're loosing their supporters. Perhapse, in the near future, youll be able to use those sames words back to them!
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:31 AM
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7. When I hear "love it or leave it" |
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I think - sad, sad person. Lot of fear and misdirected anger behind those words. If ignorance is so blissful, why are these people so miserable?
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:51 AM
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<< If ignorance is so blissful, why are these people so miserable? >>
:thumbsup:
:hi:
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Mon Jun-19-06 01:43 PM
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Maybe they don't know what's causing their misery? Maybe that's the blissfully ignorant part?lol...I dunno...but they - they being the self-loathing and fearful - are some truly miserable folk.
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:31 AM
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:32 AM
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9. Back 35 years ago when I saw it on bumper stickers |
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I thought it meant "I'm a knuckle-dragging simpleton who'll eat any shit I'm fed and ask for seconds."
But I haven't seen it or heard it for a long time. And I live in a very red part of the world.
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:32 AM
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10. It tells me there is a dumbass inside of the vehicle it is attached to |
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A cretin who thinks I have no constitutional rights since I choose to disagree with a criminal administration and warmongering Congress. That my military service entitles me to nothing, but that their faux news watching makes THEM an uber-patriot.
Most of all it tells me they are completely ignorant about what this Country is about.
If they put their money where their mouth is and said here is ten grand to get lost, I would take them up on it.
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:36 AM
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11. To me, it is an indication |
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that the person who said it is a f*cking idiot and no further conversation is necessary.
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:39 AM
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12. It tells me that the deadly serious culture war that started |
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in the 60s (or really a bit earlier) is still going strong and that in fact we are losing.
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:48 AM
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13. "I like catchy phrases as long as they're catchy" |
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"I'm a dim bulb"
"Robb is a dingbat"
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:49 AM
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As a 'Nam campaign vet, to me it meant....."Oh yeah!!! How 'bout "America, change it or LOSE IT"!!! If we don't get to changin' quick, we will lose it to the people who could give a shit about vets or anyhting else, with that turd with legs Rove being the worst thing that ever happened to this country. Goddamn it, what the hell did I serve for, for this shit we've had shoved down our throats!??? NOT!!!
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Mon Jun-19-06 10:53 AM
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16. It means that every Conservative should have left the US during the 90s |
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because, when Clinton was president, they hated everything about this country
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Mon Jun-19-06 11:20 AM
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17. Just another trite saying to appeal to morons. |
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It says, "Don't think. Just take it (their crap) or take off."
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Mon Jun-19-06 11:21 AM
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18. Battered Country Syndrome.... |
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Mon Jun-19-06 11:44 AM
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19. It means whoever utters it is an unthinking jingoistic moran |
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Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 11:45 AM by mcscajun
and of course, for the target of the utterrance, "Why don't you shut up and go away?"
John Quincy Adams is who I think of when this stupid phrase comes up, as these fools don't know what loving their country truly means.
"I can never join with my voice in the toast which I see in the papers attributed to one of our gallant naval heroes. I cannot ask of heaven success, even for my country, in a cause where she should be in the wrong. Fiat justitia, pereat coelum*. My toast would be, may our country always be successful, but whether successful or otherwise, always right." -- in a letter to John Adams (August 1, 1816)
He was referring to a contemporary and popular phrase "My Country, Right or Wrong!" taken from Stephen Decatur's famous toast: "Our Country! In her intercourse with foreign nations may she always be in the right, but our country, right or wrong."
*Let justice be done though heaven should fall.
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Mon Jun-19-06 11:49 AM
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20. I means the person has absolutely no clue what this country is about |
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Not one fucking clue what ideas and principles this country was founded on.
It means fascism.
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