Subject: Jesus Camp -- For Real (new info)

[donsu]

http://www.buzzflash.com/mailbag/06/06/mai06150.html

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Dear BuzzFlash,

Thanks for your heads-up re the Heidi Ewing/Rachel Grady movie, "Jesus Camp." Having lived in some Red States, I very much want to see it.

Quick synopsis:

From SILVERDOCS 2005 award-winning filmmakers Rachel Grady and Heidi Ewing(THE BOYS OF BARAKA) comes this extraordinary film about the newest generation of Christian evangelicals, and the parents, teachers,preachers, and counselors who are committed to inculcating them from the start with radical fundamentalist beliefs. The film exposes astartlingly sizeable generation of young kids growing up in a somewhat alternate-universe from mainstream culture. They are largely home-schooled and raised on a creationist curriculum, with extracurricular activities chiefly dedicated to converting non-believers. Summers are spent at Becky Fischer's "Kids on Fire" camp in Devil's Lake, North Dakota, where they make new like-minded friends, pray together, and gain inspiration from Fischer's hyperbolic sermons. Often disregarded as extremist and marginal, this probing documentary reveals just how pervasive and potent this presumably "fringe"culture is, and the impact it may have-and has already had-on American politics.

http://www.silverdocs.com/2006/films/jesus.aspx

I sent this on to a friend who's homeschooling her daughter. Her reply below. This says so much about the cult now in power -- because it is indeed a cult.

She writes:



Yep - See a lot of this at homeschool conferences/open events.

Unless they are "harvesting" people to God, they stay completely away to themselves - like on park days, if our group is in the park, and the xxxx or xxxx or xxxx County Christian groups are there - there is NO contact permitted. If our kids run over to play on the junglegym , their kids move away to another area.

No contact = no contamination.

They rarely show up at the hs science classes, or at public homeschool events, because they can't control who the younger kids are exposed to. They always stay in a group - even at the book sales we see them at.

When they talked the local Y into having homeschool gym class, the Y told them they had to open it to any homeschoolers - we went once - not one of them would talk to either of us. It ended up being the Christian hs Y gym class.

Scary little people.

And their kids are robots - couldn't think their way out of a paper bag if it didn't have godly directions on it. Very very smart, but not capable of thinking outside the god box.

Scary stuff. And sad. As Dan Quayle said, a mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Strength and love to the Loyal Opposition.

Deborah Conner
http://themoonsfavors.blogspot.com
Virginia

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CULT

[Master Mahon]

1. Hmmm I wonder

If they'll have Osama Bin Laden on the camps board of directors.
After all, he has a lot of great experience indoctrinating young people
in the ways of radical fundamentalism!!

[Wheezy]

2. The thing that pisses me off

is that (from what you and your friend describe in the OP) people who would go to a "Jesus Camp" don't seem to mimic the actions of Jesus in any way. Jesus spent a lot of time out of the box.

I wonder if Jesus can sue for libel?

:)

[donsu]

3. interesting thought - lawyers for Jesus

nt

[Wheezy]

7. *chuckle*

And a whole new market opens up, creating thousands of jobs across America...

[patrice]

4. When you equate your mind or heart with "God" that's Blasphemy.

We are called to do our best, to reach as far as we can, without the narcotic of complete assurance. This "spiritually incestuous" group mistakes hubris (read that testosterone-high) for the kind of free strength that guides the blind through chaos.

[noonwitch]

5. Jesus did not call for christians to isolate themselves

The people involved here have every right to do what they are doing, even if I think it's bad for their kids.

Jesus told us to feed the hungry, clothe the naked and visit the imprisoned. You can't do that in isolation. Even the amish who live north of Lansing, MI, don't isolate themselves. They visit inmates in the county jail, sell furniture and other woodworking goods to the public, and are a visible presence in their community.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. I've known several kids...

Who were tricked into going to these camps by other kids who didn't tell them it was a religious camp.

Pretty rotten shit.

[Initech]

8. Just when I think the fundies couldnt get any crazier...

:eyes:

[lapislzi]

9. and this would be different from a madrassah....how exactly?

Oh, I forgot. The christian god is the "real" one.
:sarcasm:

[Sailor for Warner]

11. *chuckle, chucke snort*

:rofl:

[Sailor for Warner]

10. Oh whatever

silly ass kids, a bunch of them will rebel in college and the world will balance out once again.

[donsu]

12. you wish

nt

[Sailor for Warner]

13. A man can dream cant he

I could care less, Ive been dealing with Evangelicals for a long ass time (Anyone who lives in Jacksonville, FL, knows what I mean) and most are harmless and controlable. I have an advantage being a History and Religions Major to know their Bible better than them in most instances, I generally can keep them away from me for days by getting them focused looking up some obscure reference. :evilgrin: