Rove is trying to paint Dems as divided and weak

[Erika]

We've never been more united. That, not petty division, is the message that needs to be sent. You make the decision on your posts as to showing our unification or division. It's up to you.

[SeattleGirl]

1. KKKarl can go F himself.

Fuggin' piece of shit. A "genius"? Nope, he's nothing but a big bully.

[Erika]

4. We need to stop attacking other dems

John Kerry served with honor for two tours in Nam.

[LittleClarkie]

2. They're trying to use the 2 bills today, but they were nearly the same

one had a deadline, one didn't. Big whoop. As Kerry said, the message was the same. We must change course in Iraq, because "stay the course" without any plan doesn't work.

[seabeyond]

12. that is what i was asking htis morning. you could tell with king last

night and all the women senators. he kept saying dems split cause of bills the women said united, discussing method. and then this morning went into the great divide like the parting of the red sea

[ladjf]

3. Well, perhaps the Dems are somewhat divided and many are

weak, but, they aren't cardinal criminals, hell bent on overthrowing Democracy in the U.S., wiping out the middle class or selling off our assets to the highest bidders. The Democrats did a fine job of serving America for forty years. Yes, there were mistakes made, but, overall, the best interests of most Americans were protected without dominating the rest of the word.

[Erika]

7. Many dems are "weak" Where are you coming from?

You call Kerry, Cleland, and Murtha weak? Where are you coming from? Who is weak?

[ladjf]

18. I am "coming from" the numerous votes in the House and Senate

who the majority of Dems voted with the Republicans and in one very important one it included Kerry.
We've got Senators like Lieberman and Landreiu just to name a couple. Only an handful supported the two Democratic initiatives to deploy out of Iraq. How about the milk toast representation of the Democratic position by Donna Brazille or the middle of the polls positions of Senator Clinton, or the several times during the past few years the Byah has flat out supported Bush at crucial points?

Why would you ask me "where am I coming from"? I'm going to support the Democratic ticket whole heartedly. But, it won't be because we have a majority of brave Democratic leaders. We only have a handful, albeit a very good handful. It will because the Democratic Party is far more likely to take care of Americans that the Republicans and by and large, the Democratic Party is not a criminal enterprise nor do they want to declare war at the pleasure.

[Yollam]

29. All the dems who agree with Rove that the war should continue forever...

...are the WEAK ones.

[seabeyond]

15. you fell for it already and it is only day one or two????? n/t

[sandnsea]

5. Republicans support failed collision course

Democrats support transitioning out of Iraq and refocusing on the real war on terror.

[Erika]

11. Three years of W's war with no results n/t

[MannyGoldstein]

6. Well... We Are! (Divided and Weak)

We are divided and weak. We're not standing up against anything - a stunning breach or the Fourth Amendment (warrantless wiretapping), torture, secret prisons, citizens held without the right of counsel or habeus corpus, being lied into war, raging cronyism, flawed planning and execution of the war...,

Rove's right. We are utterly spineless. We're debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin when we should be in the streets with torches and pitchforks.

[Erika]

9. Murtha visits injured vets at Walter Reed every week.

That takes guts. You don't see any republican showing the same support or guts. Do you?

[MannyGoldstein]

19. Not Necessarily As Individuals

We're not necessarily weak as individuals - some of us are quite strong. But as an entity, the Democrats are weak and spineless. Look at all of the Democrats that voted against a withdrawal timetable.

Until we get our act together, as a party, the Rethugs will keep kicking our asses. The problem is that the Democratic Party doesn't really stand for anything anymore, other than a bunch of elected amoebae, frantically triangulating in the hopes of staying elected. When was the last time a Democrat stood up for the Middle Class? All we get is outsourcing, union busting, and protection of the gouging medical industry.

Wake up people! We need something worth getting behind, and we need to get behind it. Or the Rethugs will kick our asses again.

[ginnyinWI]

14. not compared to the Republicans!

Compared to them we are very strong and united. All they can do is throw poo all over everybody, because they have no ideas and no solutions. They are terrified of defying their idiot leader and his evil sidekicks. Few have any integrity left, so all they can do is point fingers and say, "how are you going to fix how we royally screwed up the country, huh?"

Give me a Democrat instead of a Republican in a foxhole any day of the week!

[Erika]

16. Yes! Could you find a republican in a fox hole?

Aren't they all like this chickenhawk administration?

[seabeyond]

17. dems have stood up and spoken out against all that. where were u

republicans are in the power and shutting down the investigations ect... everytime the dems have gotten up and spoken out agaisnt these things they have been untied and strong. get dems in and they will have the power. the only weak is they don't have majority. you are not even factually correct

[MannyGoldstein]

20. We Need Dems with Nads

There are a handful of Dems with real chutzpah - Feingold, Conyers, Boxer, Murtha, ... I'm sure that I'm missing a few. What happened when Feingold tried to censure Bush - most all the Dems scattered like scared puppies.

The Dems could cause a LOT more trouble - and they need to.

[seabeyond]

22. there is a difference from this post and your first post

and there are a whole lot more on the list. quit promoting the weak and spineless, it does nothing but hurt the process and isnt true. we gotta get past this just one small election, not attack our own. just a mere couple months of not roving our dems and buying into the repug and media bullshit

everytime we listen to our dems on the floor we are jazzed, damn they are kicking ass. then the glow fades and they are back to spineless

[Erika]

27. But W Bushbots rubber stamped W

Who had the guts? Us or them?

[upi402]

8. As opposed to a strong authoritarian corporate state Mr Rove?

:crazy: :silly: :wtf:

[seabeyond]

10. rove goes after strength not weakness. so lets not fall for THIS

one. like going after kerrys military.... or flip flopper bullshit. bush was the flip flopper and poor military

[Erika]

13. Exactly. The GOP is the party of bad results

They had total control and threw our government and people into total havoc.

[Monkeyman]

21. Hit Rove Back

Republicans say stay the course What Course tell Bush to come to the House and Senate and tell America what course we are on

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[seabeyond]

24. only if people sucker in. he is so obvious, not smart and people buy

into it. that is hte only way he wins if the dems allow themselves to be swuckered into roves really stupid and obvious game

[jaysunb]

25. He's succeeding too !

Just look around at the fractures right here at DU.

[Erika]

26. I'm thrilled with the responses

Should we attack each other or Rove?

[Hekate]

28. Amazing. Same old talking points from Turdblossom

Amazing. From the MSM it's the same old talking points from Turdblossom, about how the Dems can't find our butts with both hands.

From Dems like Howard Dean I hear we are unified and forging ahead.

Who are you going to believe, folks? The man who spins like a Gulf hurricane and a Kansas tornado, or the people who are taking this country back state by state?

Hekate