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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:33 PM
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Ex-CIA Aide Says: Warnings On WMD 'Fabricator' Curveball Ignored
Warnings on WMD 'Fabricator' Were Ignored, Ex-CIA Aide Says

By Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, June 25, 2006; A18



In late January 2003, as Secretary of State Colin Powell prepared to argue the Bush administration's case against Iraq at the United Nations, veteran CIA officer Tyler Drumheller sat down with a classified draft of Powell's speech to look for errors. He found a whopper: a claim about mobile biological labs built by Iraq for germ warfare.

Drumheller instantly recognized the source, an Iraqi defector suspected of being mentally unstable and a liar. The CIA officer took his pen, he recounted in an interview, and crossed out the whole paragraph.

A few days later, the lines were back in the speech. Powell stood before the U.N. Security Council on Feb. 5 and said: "We have first-hand descriptions of biological weapons factories on wheels and on rails."

The sentence took Drumheller completely by surprise.

more at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/24/AR2006062401081_pf.html
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:44 PM
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1. gee, that's new? guess the intrepid reporter finally got around to
reading State of War, by James Risen.

or did he catch a tape of the numerous TV appearances, in which Drumheller said the same thing?



CIA operatives raise intel questions - Hardball with Chris ...Hardball has a Special Report on the CIA Leak case with Tyler Drumheller, ... that the reporting on the “Curveball” case, which was a big thing was bad, ...
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12601112/ - 59k - Cached - Similar pages


Did faulty intelligence make case for war? - Hardball with Chris ...Tyler Drumheller headed up the CIA’s convert operations in Europe until he ... hard intelligence that they had on it came from a source called Curveball, ...
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'Curveball' Debacle Reignites CIA FeudTyler Drumheller, former chief of the CIA European Division, ... GNN.tv has no affiliation with the originator of this article nor is GNN.tv endorsed or ...
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How US Fell Under the Spell of 'Curveball'A German intelligence official tells Tyler Drumheller that Curveball may be a fabricator. Drumheller tries to warn others at the CIA. ...
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The Strata-Sphere » Blog Archive » More Rogue CIA Agents In The MediaWe turn to CBS’ 60 Minutes report from Sunday where former CIA official Tyler Drumheller, who was head of covert operations in Europe, tells it just like ...
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AlterNet: An Intel Story Finally ToldThe shocking account of Tyler Drumheller, former top CIA spy in Europe, ... he himself informed the top CIA officials that Curveball was an outright fraud. ...
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AlterNet: An Intel Story Finally ToldThe shocking account of Tyler Drumheller, former top CIA spy in Europe, ... relied on the now infamous Iraqi defector "Curveball," whose statements so ...
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Salon.com Books | The yes man and the thugAnother time, Tenet ignored the warnings of Tyler Drumheller, who headed the CIA's European spy operations and had learned from German intelligence that a ...
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The Blog | Robert Scheer: Long-Delayed Story on Pre-War Intel ...--Tyler Drumheller, CIA's top spy in Europe. ... were no active WMD programs; and (iv) the WH reliance instead on the claims of the known liar "curveball. ...
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RS National Affairs Daily » IraqScheuer tells Australian TV that the real reason Zarqawi today is a sentient ... Not so in this case, Tyler Drumheller, the CIA’s top man in Europe at the ...
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:47 PM
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2. I just flipped through the Post story, and wonder if Risen doesn't
have grounds for accusations of plagiarism.

he sure doesn't attribute ANYthing to him, and that book came out when.....many months ago, that's for sure
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:57 PM
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3. A Kick And Recommendation For A Story That Will Never Get The
media attention it deserves. Thanks for reposting it.

CURVEBALL!

STRIKE THREE!

YOU DOUCHEBAGS ARE OUTTA HERE!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:31 PM
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7. that's right...he was on 60 Minutes in April, and they didn't even
discuss Curveball...it was all about yellowcake

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/21/60minutes/main1527749.shtml

again, this story isn't going anywhere, and I wonder what else, if anything, the Post has had to say about this creakingly old story
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:05 PM
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4. Kick! Bomb dropping!...
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:08 PM
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5. k&r
:kick:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:12 PM
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6. k/r
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:46 PM
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8. since the Post copped this from Risen, here's a MUCH more relevant
Edited on Sat Jun-24-06 11:53 PM by Gabi Hayes
story, as the Curveball thing is pretty much water under the bridge, as it applies the the obvious fact that the Saudis are SO much not with us on the socalled WOT....from a review of his book, summarizing part of Chapter 8. It's MUCH worse in the book:

Risen writes that after Abu Zubaydah was captured in March 2002, he was discovered to have had two bank cards on his person one from a Kuwaiti bank, and another from a Saudi bank, which Risen writes "had the potential to be keys that could unlock some of al Qaeda's darkest secrets. The cards 'could give us entrée right into who was funding al Qaeda, no link analysis needed,' said one American source. 'You could track money right from the financiers to a top al Qaeda figure.' But something very odd happened when the FBI and CIA team . There is little evidence that an aggressive investigation of the cards was ever conducted.

"Two American sources familiar with the matter say that they don't believe the government's experts on terrorism financing have ever thoroughly probed the transactions in Abu Zubaydah's accounts..." Risen later reports that his two sources believe that this is because of a lack of oversight, "rather than a political cover-up to protect the Saudis." Risen writes that a "Muslim financier with a questionable past, and with connections to the Afghan Taliban, al Qaeda, and Saudi intelligence agreed to work with " on this story. Risen says that the financier reported that in 2004, "18 months earlier, he said he had been told, Saudi intelligence officials seized all of the records related to ; the records then disappeared… The timing of the reported seizure of the records by Saudi intelligence closely coincided with the timing of Abu Zubaydah's capture in Pakistan in March 2002."

http://www.alternet.org/story/30404/


one of the criticisms of Risen is that he lays out lots of details, but pulls his punches, as in this summary. If one reads what he has to see, the conclusion can easily be drawn that there's WAY more going on in the myriad instances he describes as examples of "oversight" or "incompetence."

the Drumheller/Curveball/Powell segment is an excellent example, as well as the case of the thirty plus Iraqis who the CIA got to go back from the US to spy on/with relatives in order to find out how advanced the Iraqi nuke program was, only to find that EVERY single person told them that there WAS none, HADn't been since the first gulf war, when the only enrichment plant had been bombed to fragments. Guess what....the CIA chiefs didn't want to hear anything about that.

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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:51 PM
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9. Thanks
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 01:04 AM
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10. And yet, how the available intelligence was used remains unexplored,
no oversight, no investigation, no congressional inquiry.

In spite of the fact that Congress should have had prior knowledge and approval, based on one thing:

The United States Constititution.

I know some people don't like it. They've made it clear that they think the powers are improperly divided, especially between the Executive and Legislative branches.

But that's the whole point. The Executive branch asserts its full power, while the Legislative and Judicial branches do the very same. That's our Constitutional form of government.

But some people, having gained control of one branch, think that three co-equal branches is a deficient idea.

If these people swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, they have breached their oath, and their actions border on treason.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:16 AM
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11. We need to work this story!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:37 AM
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12. kick
kick
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 01:03 PM
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13. kick

Intelligence Officers, Learn From History - By Ray McGovern - t r u t h o u t | Perspective


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