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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:00 AM
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Ever hear of a federal program called Troops to Teachers?
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/06/25/veterans_take_charge_in_us_classrooms/

Veterans take charge in US classrooms


BOISE, Idaho -- Within a year, Luke Miller went from raiding insurgent strongholds in Iraq's volatile Anbar province to preparing math final exams for seventh- and eighth-graders at West Junior High School. snip

Many troops enter through a federal program called Troops to Teachers, which places veterans and reservists with college degrees in teacher certification classes. More than 1,500 graduates -- and many more combat veterans unaffiliated with the program, like Miller -- are working in schools across the West, from California to Colorado, said director John Gantz. More than 4,500 are teaching in the South. snip

``The focus of the military is mission accomplishment and that translates to teaching in so many ways," Miller said, sitting before a classroom wall tacked with pictures of platoon mates in fatigues. ``You climb the ranks and are expected to teach newer guys. So, teaching is a major component of the military." snip

Troops to Teachers, whose mantra is ``proud to serve again," offers a $5,000 stipend, plus another $10,000 if graduates choose to teach in poorer areas. The program was created in 1994, but was dormant for six years until Congress reauthorized spending in 2001 to help lure the type of ``highly qualified" teachers required by the No Child Left Behind Act.

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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:07 AM
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1. Yep. Don't see anything wrong with it.
It helps vets get jobs.

AFAIK, many of the teachers in this program go to less desirable school districts.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:13 AM
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2. I just see one proble..............
....but let me say first and foremost that I think it's great:patriot: veterans :patriot:are getting jobs and we certainly need all the teachers we can get.

Ok, that much having been said, the only problem I see with this is the extra foothold recruiters will now have into the classrooms of America.:grr:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:18 AM
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4. Yea it wouldn't be easy explaining to my kid that his teacher was...
...full of shit for glorifying the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

But I would anyway.

Don
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:25 AM
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6. Why do you think all Iraq vet teachers would act this way?
Do you have sonme examples of these teachers doing this or are you just making it up?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:29 AM
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8. Start with the one in the article I posted above
That qualifies. I wouldn't want my 13 year old son looking at military stuff stuck up on the wall in his mathematics class.

If you don't mind that is fine with me.

Don
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:36 AM
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9. Maybe there should be a prohibition on veterans being teachers.
Yeah, that would be better.

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:41 AM
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10. Calm down now
Edited on Mon Jun-26-06 09:41 AM by NNN0LHI
A prohibition on veterans plastering military propaganda up on the walls in their classrooms would suffice.

Don
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:45 AM
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12. No pictures of families or other items that
"(form a) kind of display (that) is not proper unless it relates directly to the subject matter being taught"

not your quote, I know.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 10:09 AM
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15. I would draw the line at military propaganda
I consider glorifying war to kids child abuse.

Don
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 10:12 AM
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16. If I have a picture of me and my soldiers, I consider that
a tribute to honorable service. But, thanks for denigrating that.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:46 AM
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13. What if they put up a Peace symbol?
:eyes:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 10:04 AM
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14. Peace means life. War means death
I would want my children to be celebrating life not death during their forming years.

Call me old fashioned.

Don
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:13 AM
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17. More Likely Explaining How Full of Sh!t ** Was for Invading
I don't have the impression that Bush**ler is all that popular with the troops.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:22 AM
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5. They're not recruiters, they're teachers.
People who get out of the military can tell the truth about the military to young people.

I know a lot of vets and a good protion of them would tell young people to stay the hell away from the recruiters.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:16 AM
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3. great for recruiting kids isnt it???
"...sitting before a classroom wall tacked with pictures of platoon mates in fatigues."

this kind of display is not proper unless it relates directly to the subject matter being taught.

its recruiting and propaganda.

getting former military a teaching job IF QUALIFIED is not the same as opening a recruiter office in the school.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:28 AM
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7. As an active duty soldier, this sounds like a great program.
I am planning on becoming a HS teacher (math, earth sciences) when I reach my 20-year mark in the Army. I'm glad to see a program that will help me in that endeavor.
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:44 AM
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11. This is nohing more than a Recruitment program...
Train the fodder of the future!!!...

Don't kid yourselves. The attempt is to instill the desire and "patriotism" of the children, so that in Americas future wars they will have more young brainwashed men to die in vain !
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:44 AM
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19. Not necessarily.
I know some vets, and they're not as gung-ho "patriotic" as the average Freeper. Remember, most of the republicans doing the *worst* shit are chickenhawks.

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RiDuvessa Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:36 AM
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18. Good program.
Here's a link to the Department of Education website:

<http://www.ed.gov/programs/troops/index.html>

The program was started under the Clinton Administration in 1994 to help address the lack of qualified teachers. The thought was that soldiers and sailors help teach and train their juniors in the military, and would thus make excellent teachers in the civilian sector. Further, it was thought that since many people in the military came from underprivileged or rural backgrounds, teachers that had served in the military might be able to connect better in these areas. The program gives teachers that choose to serve in these areas get a $10,000 bonus.

I don't think that this is really a recruitment program, or a program to indoctrinate students. It is a program that tries to help place veterans in good jobs and use the resources available to help educate our young people. Now obviously, you are going to have teachers who enjoyed their time in the service, who if asked, will recommend it to others. But you will also get military members who didn't like their time in the service, and who won't recommend it to students. Anyone who meets the requirements of the program is eligible. It does not require slavish devotion to the military.

As far as the pictures mentioned in the article, it does not say that the wall is covered in pictures, and it doesn't say that he has recruiting posters on the wall. (I am pretty sure the article would have mentioned it if he had.) I would say that a couple of pictures of his friends in fatigues is a far cry from "glorifying the invasion and occupation of Iraq" or "plastering military propaganda up on the walls in their classrooms" or "recruiting and propaganda"
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:46 AM
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20. How about a "Pimps to Teachers" program?
``You climb the ranks and are expected to teach newer guys. So, teaching is a major component of the military."

As I understand it, pimps do much the same. Although what they're "teaching" is a bit different than what the military does.
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