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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:01 AM
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You can't sell milk anymore.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060628/ap_on_re_us/amish_raw_milk

we have become such wussies that the courts have to make raw milk illegal.

thank god i live in texas where i can still buy raw, whole milk straight from a jersey cow that is happy on a family farm.

this is completely ridiculous, raw milk does not cause disease or any other health problems.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:06 AM
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1. it does...
for the cloistered, sterilized people. They should get out more.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:06 AM
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2. What surprised me
... is that we actually have undercover milk agents to enforce these laws.

Sometimes I feel like I'm living in a very large, very complicated sitcom, written by scriptwriters with various mental illnesses and cortical brain tumors.

--p!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:14 AM
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4. They are aliens, plain and simple
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:35 AM
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12. Amen brother!!!
Raw milk makes for a perfect litmus test to see if someone is an alien lizard. Give it to 'em and stand WAY back!



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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:09 AM
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3. Raw milk doesn't cause any more health problems
than pasteurized milk does as long as it is used within 24/48 hours.

Some of the stuff they are feeding and injecting into the cows may not be healthy to humans, but that stuff is not destroyed in the pasteurization process.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:37 AM
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16. Tell that to my niece. she was one of those in SW Washington
who became gravely ill after drinking raw milk along with several other residents of the area.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:18 AM
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5. Neither does pot. Neither do sex toys.
How's Texas treat you if you want to buy them?
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:07 AM
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18. snicker snicker...
hahah
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:24 AM
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6. until the cow gets MDR TB....
And if you don't think cows don't carry multi-drug resistant tuberculosis, you really need to get out of the US a bit. We didn't eradicate TB when we had the chance, and now it's stronger than ever. There are a lot of people carrying it, especially people who are desperate for work. Unpasturized milk carries TB and cows can transmit it without being sick. MDR TB is not quite endemic in South and Central America, the Caribbean, Africa and Southeast Asia, where a lot of US farm workers come from. Since people can carry TB for several years without being obviously sick, and can transmit it to other people and cattle in that time, it makes sense to try to prevent the spread of the disease in as many avenues as possible. I also think that food handlers, retail personnel and others who contact the public should be required to pass a skin test, paid for by the employer. TB is no minor illness, especially if it goes untreated. It can't be cured by wishful thinking, ignoring it, or having one's chakras aligned. It takes very specific, expensive antibiotics that are getting less effective every year.

Besides, drinking milk is strange. It's meant for baby cows, not adult humans. If you must have raw milk, then it's probably time to start talking to a nursing mother.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:32 AM
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7. I Used To Get Organic, Cream-Top Milk
It wasn't raw; it just wasn't homogenized. I was told I was buying the last of it a few weeks ago as it was no longer legal to sell.

I'm not a big milk user or drinker, but when I do use milk, I prefer it not taste like ass.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:46 AM
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8. and they made it illegal to sell fresh apple cider in WI--now has to be
pasturized. So, when go to apple orchid in the fall--NO fresh apple cider. too expensive the growers say.
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organik Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:48 AM
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9. Milk is for babies - I don't touch the stuff.
Cow's milk does indeed cause a host of health problems, pasteurized or not.

I suggested reading some nutritional info about milk that's not from the dairy industry.

there is no such thing as a happy dairy cow, unless you think being raped and having your babies stolen makes one happy.


Who has the highest osteoporosis rate in the world, the u.s. - who has the highest calcium intake via dairy - the u.s. interesting huh?


Not to mention a link to heart disease, child onset diabetes, arthritis, etc.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:05 AM
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10. This is protection for the large commercial dairy interests.
Has nothing to do with anything more than protecting big business and making certain that everyone consumes only the products produced by them.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:18 AM
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11. raw milk is so much more nutritious n/t
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:40 AM
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13. I hate to inform you but in Texas
it is illegal to sell milk that doesn't come from a grade A raw milk dairy. It is even illegal to sell it labeled for animal use only. This has been the case for at least 15 years. It used to be legal to sell milk to those who came to the farm but no longer. The huge dairies in the Stevenville/ Dublin area are likely the lobbying culprits for making raw milk sales illegal.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:14 AM
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14. Sad, isn't it
I've only recently been reading about WAPF stuff and realized in NM you can only get raw goat milk.

Occasionally you run across a place that will sell raw milk cheese.

I'm amazed I can find grass fed meats....it wasn't without going on a wild goose chase.

Lots of people here get their raw milk shipped to them frozen from CA....I know I can't afford that.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:36 AM
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15. You Seem Suprised - You Shouldn't Be
Milk is, and has been one of the most regulated substances in our country. Its regulation has nothing to do with safety though, its pure economics. We, as a nation, have the ability to produce more milk than we could possibly use, and do. Consequently the marketing structure for milk was one of the earliest entrys of Government into the regulation of consumer products and more particularly food. You could still buy Opium legally when the first trade restrictions on milk were put in place.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 08:41 AM
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17. Milk needs to be homogenized or it could be harmful
Pasteurized as well. Those simple facts were learned a long time ago.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:10 AM
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19. In Michigan you have to buy a share of the cow
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 09:10 AM by gollygee
the law is that you can only drink raw milk from your own cow, so people will sell "shares" of the cow and anyone who buys a share (for a very small amount of money) can buy milk from the cow they partially own.
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