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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 08:38 AM
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As ANGRY as I get at the global warming skeptics, my RAGE is for EXXON.
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 08:48 AM by Harper_is_Bush
This company needs a wakeup call.
They pump millions into institutes and policy centers and foundations that in turn give it to global warming skeptics.
Here's a primer on their campaign to fund deceit:

Global Warming Skeptics: A Primer
Guess Who's Funding the Global Warming Doubt Shops?

In 1998, Exxon devised a plan to stall action on global warming. The plan was outlined in an internal memo (see the memo ). It promised, "Victory will be achieved when uncertainties in climate science become part of the conventional wisdom" for "average citizens" and "the media."
The company would recruit and train new scientists who lack a "history of visibility in the climate debate" and develop materials depicting supporters of action to cut greenhouse gas emissions as "out of touch with reality."
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The information below is from Exxon documents and the organizations' Web sites: Exxon's 2003 contributions and Exxon's 2002 contributions .

Read the rest here: http://www.environmentaldefense.org/article.cfm?contentid=3804&CFID=21084385&CFTOKEN=29888831

It goes on to identify all the "skeptics" (liars, I calls em) and detail their connection to EXXON.

For example:

Myron Ebell

Director, Climate Change and
international environment program
Competitive Enterprise Institute
The Competitive Enterprise Institute has received $870,000 from ExxonMobil since 2002.

I'm thinking of organizing a visit to my local ESSO station complete with signs and information to hand out to a public who is largely ignorant of their deception.
edit: in the USA it's Mobil and Exxon stations. Also "on the run" convenience stores.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 08:39 AM
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1. Yessiree!
Look at this as well. It disgusts me. http://cherylsealreports.com/corporatescience.html
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:08 AM
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3. grrrrrr. The more I see the more I want to make EXXON pay for its
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 09:08 AM by Harper_is_Bush
lies.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 08:45 AM
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2. Must be the genius behind the "I love CO2 campaign".
:eyes:
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blueinchicago Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:09 AM
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4. It's not them, it's us.
Want to stop Exxon. Recall that 50 percent of the crude imported into the states is burned up in the corporate feedlot cattle industry, according to Jeremy Rifkin. Along with Big Oil, Big Ag is also funding the corporate takeover of America.

If you really want to fight, alter your consuming habits. Do not eat any corporate beef. Switch to local, organic GRASS FED beef or to bison, or simply eat way lower on the food chain. Two University of Chicago scientists proved that eating a diet based on mostly vegetarian and/or poultry would drastically reduce your carbon footprint.

It would also take the money out of the pockets of corporatists (Exxon) so they could no longer fund right wing think tanks and flakkers.

Just an idea.

Blue
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:12 AM
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5. welcome to DU & good post.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:31 AM
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6. It's a good idea, but I want to make them suffer through humiliation also.
You're right we need to consume less.

But as well EXXON needs to just get on with it's own business and not throw money at political insitututes and policy centers to influence the global warming debate with deception.
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blueinchicago Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:10 AM
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7. Too true.
But I've found that whenever you try to target one company, another company rears its ugly corporate head and fills in the gap.

For example, I was only too happy to quit Sam's for Costco. Then I find out there's a boycott against Costco for destroying Mexican cultural heritage, and other things.

You target Exxon, then (allegedly) Shell kills a bunch of people in Nigeria. You try Citgo, but find they violate EPA laws. Unless you can make your own gas, what can you do?

Okay, you can walk, ride a bike, carpool, or take public trans. Not only does it serve as a protest against Big Oil, but its quiet, so you avoid (for a time) the flak attack.

"The revolution will not be televised" is not just a slogan.

Thanks for letting me get that off my chest, and thanks to you who welcomed me.

Blue

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:18 AM
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8. Hi blueinchicago!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:22 AM
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9. "Fish, plankton, sea greens... protein from the sea! "
One of your comments reminded me of this line from "Logan's Run".

:D

You are of course correct!

Welcome to DU!
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blueinchicago Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:59 AM
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10. Hi
I was so new yesterday, I couldn't navigate back here to thank you all for welcoming me.

Have a happy Fourth!
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:04 PM
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11. that's why I stopped eating beef and pork
years ago. I eat poultry occasionally; trying 2 eat 'closer 2 home'; that 3,000 mile caesar salad is not for me - but then I've never been a big caesar salad fan anyway.
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OhNoTheyDidNot Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:20 PM
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12. You would stop eating poultry if you knew what they were pumping them full
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 12:21 PM by OhNoTheyDidNot
of before they reach your dinner table. Did you know that most chickens can't even stand up after they are 7 weeks old because they pump them so full of steriods that their bodies become so heavy thier little legs cant't hold the weight of their bodies, so for their remaining 5 or 6 weeks, they just lay there -- unable to stand up cuz they are too heavy ..... the fact that people know this and eat meat anyway surprises me on so many levels
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:20 PM
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13. I have raised free range chickens, so yes I know
that poultry are raised no differently on corporate farms than beef or pork. I guess I should have qualified what I wrote. I will occasionally buy a free range raised chicken but it is rare and I use it for as many meals as possible. Having had an organic farm, I'm am probably more aware of my carbon footprint than the average bear.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:25 PM
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15. The problem with that strategy is that it won't work. These guys need to
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 01:28 PM by w4rma
be targeted directly so that laws can be written to prevent what they are doing and so that other folks will know about what they are doing in secrecy. Anyway, Exxon is definitely the worst of the big oil companies and I would say that Citgo is the best of them.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:23 PM
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14. There's not really such a thing as a "global warming skeptic."
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 01:23 PM by Bornaginhooligan
A skeptic is somebody who looks at all of the evidence and comes to a conclusion based upon it. The overwhelming weight of scientific evidence indicates that global warming is occuring, and it's anthropogenic. Thus, any real skeptic falls on the side of anthropogenic global warming.

People who deny global warming are just plain liars and/or fools.
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