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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:04 AM
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Is Jon stewart "bad for America"?
By now, most of us have seen the report claiming that regular college - age viewers of TDS tend to be more cynical towards American politics. The report therefore concludes that Jon Stewart is "bad" for America.

However, the report ignores the fact that previous reports show that regular viewers of TDS are better informed about American politics than viewers of other venues in the study.

It's not Jon that's making the students cynical - it's the pracitices of Politicians that are making them cynical.

Jon is simply one of the few reporters that's reporting the truth - Through "fake news", as ironic as that sounds.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:07 AM
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1. What reports?
Got links? :shrug:

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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:22 AM
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5. "Got Links"? Yep! Hoping you'd ask.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/28/comedy.politics/
....Dannagal Goldthwaite Young, a senior research analyst at the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, said "Daily Show" viewers came out on top "even when education, party identification, following politics, watching cable news, receiving campaign information online, age and gender are taken into consideration."


http://mediamatters.org/items/200605250003

In fact, studies have shown that viewers of Comedy Central's The Daily Show with Jon Stewart are consistently better informed about current events than consumers of other media, and Daily Show viewers are significantly better educated than viewers of The O'Reilly Factor. Further, consumers of Fox News in general have been found to be significantly more misinformed about current events than consumers of other mainstream media.


The Annenberg Survey press release:
http://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/naes/2004_03_late-night-knowledge-2_9-21_pr.pdf

Spread the Word!





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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:35 AM
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8. Buncha "stoner slackers!"
:D



Thanks for the links! :hi:
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:42 AM
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9. No prob! Love your work!
:toast:
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fearthem Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 07:35 AM
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19. Scarborough Country/MSNBC TV
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:08 AM
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2. TRUTH makes cynics; Jon delivers TRUTH.
This does NOT equal "Jon makes Cynics".
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:10 AM
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3. This is rovian propaganda
i.e. attack them on their strengths. Jon is an absolute ace.

Diebold is bad for america. Why vote if our vote doesn't count?

I only vote so I can bitch. How ridiculous is that?
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rfrrfrrfr Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:18 AM
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4. You need to go actually read the report.
The report doesn't say what the MSM has reported it does. They did some very selective reporting and spinning of what was actually said in the report. In short they took one small aspect of the report and reported as if thats all the report said. Which is farthest from the truth.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:23 AM
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6. True, I haven't read it. Do you have a link?
Here's the link to the previous Annenberg Survey I referred to:
http://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/naes/2004_03_late-night-knowledge-2_9-21_pr.pdf
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:28 AM
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7. Did you see tonight's Daily Show?
Jon showed a shot of an MSNBC show that had a graphic about him, but said they missed the part (audio) when they were talking about him.

Next replay is at 10:00am EDT
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 04:31 AM
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10. Yes, it's bad for America to know.........
the hypocrisy that envelopes it's political system. :eyes: Jon is the messenger, ALWAYS shoot the messenger! OF COURSE TDS is going to make people cynical and by doing so it just MIGHT spur them into DOING something about the teeming hypocrisy in our government. We wouldn't want THAT now, would we?

People certainly aren't going to get the unvarnished truth from the MSM but TDS strips all the veneer off and shows how ridiculous American politics really are.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 06:37 AM
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11. The day I see "Is Limbaugh Bad For America?",
"Is Bill O'Reilly Bad for America?", "Is Sean Hannity Bad for America?", or fercryinoutloud... "Is Ann Coulter Bad for America?" articles is the day I start to think these articles are coming from sincerely thoughtful journalists with legitimate concerns, and not just a memo on their desk from Karl Rove instructing them to go after, arguably, the Left's most powerful media weapon. He and Colbert are our big guns in the fight against the Right. DO NOT BUY THE BULLSHIT THEY ARE BAD FOR AMERICA! Don't buy into it.

TC
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 06:45 AM
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12. Exactly.
That was my first thought - what about O'Reilly and THOSE assholes? People actually take them seriously! Yikes!
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 06:54 AM
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13. Bad for fascists--good for America!
:patriot:
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 06:55 AM
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14. Mark Twain was doing this long before Jon.
No one was concerned that reading Mark Twain would lead to cynics. Perhaps it is just knowing the truth that leads to cynicism.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 07:03 AM
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15. the politicians never regret breaking the law
just getting that fact pointed out to the public.

imo, the Daily Show viewers were cynical because this administration is crooked and always has been.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 07:17 AM
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16. Cynical America=Awake American.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 07:17 AM
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17. Apparently "thinking" is bad for America
Or maybe waking up to reality is. All I know is that quite a few early-20-somethings in my classes watch him, as I do, and seem quite well-informed about current events.

It might be bad for the current "America," but it's good for the future America.
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fearthem Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 07:33 AM
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18. Just more poison planted by GOP, as in "should dems boycott elections"....
look for lots more to come -- they are desperate, pulling out all tricks -- they employ a team designed to specifically keep throwing out such things, just hoping something will "stick." We need to call them on it, get message out to the masses, those who just are not able to recognize these tactics -- so many just don't think or are brainwashed. I think Media Matters does a good job in running commercials, ads that sets the record straight, but how many log into Media Matters? We must help by talking to friends, family, co-workers, placing bumper stickers on our cars that are very succinct in meaning. It'll have to be a large-scale grassroots effort.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 08:48 AM
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20. Seen on Fox News crawler.."Is Jon Stewart a Danger?"
No Shit.......Jon had a screen capture of it on his show last night. They are scared real bad it would appear.
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