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Revolution_July4 Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:40 AM
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Cindy Sheehan to provoke the Second American Revolution July 4th, 2006
Hunger Strike at White House!

Gold Star Families for Peace will announce a historic hunger strike against the war in Iraq. At 5pm, they will sit down in front of the White House to eat their last meal and hold a press conference before beginning the fast at the same location in the morning of July 4 at 10am.

“We’ve marched, held vigils, lobbied Congress, camped out at Bush’s ranch. We’ve even gone to jail. Now it’s time to do more,” says peace mom Cindy Sheehan. “While others are celebrating July 4th with barbeques, we’ll be showing our patriotism by putting our bodies on the line to bring our troops home.”

Hundreds of celebrities, veterans, mothers, and concerned citizens across the country will participate in a rolling fast. Strikers include musicians Willie Nelson and Michael Franti, actors Danny Glover, Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon, Gold Star parents Cindy Sheehan and Fernando Suarez, legendary faster and comedian Dick Gregory, environmental activist Diane Wilson, Iraq war veteran Geoffrey Millard and Gulf War vet Michael McPherson, labor leader Dolores Huerta



JOIN CINDY SHEEHAN AT THE WHITE HOUSE!!



If you cannot join Cindy in DC, please do something to provoke the revolution in your hometown As the July 4th weekend approaches, we want to encourage your group to think about planning antiwar actions during the holiday weekend. July 4th celebrations take place in cities and towns, communities small and large, urban centers and rural locations.

Sometimes antiwar organizers have stayed away from these highly "patriotic" gatherings, assuming an unfriendly response. But this year, given the deep public sentiment against the war in Iraq and the very low approval ratings for President Bush, it might make sense to organize something that will allow more people to express their own opposition to the war.

You’ll know what’s most appropriate for your community, but here are several ideas of things you could plan:

1) Organize an antiwar contingent in the official July 4th parade in your area. If you do this be sure to invite as many people as possible to join your contingent, you’ll want to look as strong and as representative of your communities as possible. An alternative to marching in the parade is to have your folks line up along the parade route. If you do this you’ll want to be in a location that affords the most visibility, both for the people in the parade and for other folks watching it, including the media.

2) Hold a vigil or picket, or set up a literature table, in a busy shopping area. The July 4th weekend is usually a major shopping period with lots of folks hitting the malls. Try to hand out educational materials, gather signatures on petitions, or get people to sign letters or postcards to their elected officials. Use this as a time to gather signatures on the Voters for Peace Pledge (http://www.votersforpeace.us/) and/or the Declaration of Peace nonviolent action pledge (http://declarationofpeace.org).

3) Use the weekend to get your message into the local media.

* Organize people to call into your local radio talk shows throughout the weekend. * Plan ahead to send in letters to the editor in order to get them printed on and around the holiday. * Call your local paper to see if someone from your group can submit an Op Ed piece for publication over the holiday weekend. http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/06/24/18282599.php


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Revolution_July4 Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:44 AM
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1. did everyone hear about this already?
I logged in just so I could post this because I hadn't seen it anywhere.

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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:46 AM
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2. I hadn't heard of it.
Thanks for letting people know.
:hi:
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nolies32fouettes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:56 AM
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3. We have to make sure people who didn't know or those who forgot
what Cindy has been through to help end the war.

First, the things she endured in Crawford last year.

Then which each arrest the police became more brutal!

And the way they arrested her at the SOTU was a complete violation of And some 'righties' even think this isn't a war! What would Cindy say about that?

So everyone please do what you can to continue to support Cindy and to make the Republicans pay for what they've done to families like Cindy's across America!
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:50 PM
Response to Reply #3
38. Great reminder links. Especially to share with people who don't
know what she went through and just heard the media spin.
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gobstopper Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:14 PM
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4. Sorry,
but I can't give up my steak, brats, and beer this weekend.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #4
24. Interesting first post...
Welcome to DU
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #24
64. My thought exactly. nt
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 09:55 AM
Response to Reply #64
75. I'll Third That Thought!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #4
72. Can you give up your freedoms, your life, others' lives?
:shrug:
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #4
78. And why would you?
Why would you give up beer,brats and steak?
Pardon some of us here, we actually still hold out hope for the backwash demographic.
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #78
82. "the backwash demographic" - !
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #4
83. Hold your "brats" close, One of my children
is in Iraq... Hold them close to you and remember what we are trying to do here.....

dogday
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #4
84. Um the fast starts on Monday night
which isn't the weekend.

You must have been absent the day they taught the calendar at Freeper Elementary School. :rofl:
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #4
114. How do you feel about pizza? n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:23 PM
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5. k&r
:kick:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:37 PM
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6. kicking to the top of the page
:loveya: Cindy :loveya:

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:42 PM
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7. what a bunch of crap...
if they're going on a "real" hunger strike- they should be prepared to stick it out to the death if necessary.

otherwise they're just a bunch of laughable poseurs.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. that's such a defeatist attitude
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #8
15. i think this charade is an insult-
to those who have performed REAL hunger strikes...

oooh...those poor americans...they're going to go without brats and burgers for a couple of days....oh, the horror- what if, god forbid, they should get a little light-headed...
:rofl: :rofl:

like i said- if they make it a REAL hunger strike- THEN i'll be impressed.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. I guess it's good that you are not the only person in America
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. i'm also not the only person on this thread who feels the same way...
and we're a friendly audience.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:36 AM
Response to Reply #21
143. I doubt that
very much.....
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #15
32. That's what I want to know. Is it tag team hunger striking or what?
What the flying fuck on a stick is a rolling fast?

No one seems to know.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 02:18 AM
Response to Reply #15
68. The point is not to impress you
The point is to gather a lot of people, in order to show dissent.

Obviously certain people have an interest in that not happening.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #68
110. one can show dissent without impugning the integrity and acheivements...
of REAL hunger strikers.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 04:44 AM
Response to Reply #110
132. You're one of a small minority that has a problem with this
Who cares.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:06 AM
Response to Reply #110
135. Wow, that's rich. You sit here impugning the integrity and
achievements of someone who has done far more to shed light on the cockroach-in-chief than most ordinary citizens could ever dream of doing (including you, unless you've got something more on your list of accomplishments besides "voting democratic") and you point fingers at her? WOW.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:10 AM
Response to Reply #135
158. she's also done more to inspire derision than most...
remeber her lame-brained low-class disrespectful stunt with stupid t-shirt at the SOTU...?

cindy sheehan has made herself into a laughing-stock in the eyes of MANY.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #158
171. That wasn't a stunt
Edited on Sun Jul-02-06 09:32 AM by proud2Blib
You obviously know nothing about Cindy. She wears an anti-war t-shirt almost every day, regardless of where she is.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #171
186. and there are some places where that isn't the proper thing to do-
no matter what someone's personal beliefs are.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 10:17 AM
Response to Reply #186
196. It's not proper that a war criminal be in the Oval Office and
yet there he sits. Exactly how tall *is* that high horse you're on?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #186
198. So now you are the manners monitor too
LOL This is getting interesting.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #158
205. I don't remember any such thing. I DO remember Cindy
protesting the same way she always has, tirelessly, unafraid to speak the truth to power. And yes, wearing a T-SHIRT (*GASP*) to the SOTU. WOW, SOMEONE LOCK THAT WOMAN UP! Surely that must be a crime on par with stealing elections, making up lies to go to war, and being responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans and Iraqis. How DARE she disrespect the people responsible by WEARING A T-SHIRT! The nerve!

I'm sorry, but I think in order to be the victim of disrespect, one needs to be inherently worthy of some respect in the first place. Bu$hCo has not earned that, and the SOTU was a farce worthy of far more derision (or at least as much as you choose to pile on Cindy).

"cindy sheehan has made herself into a laughing-stock in the eyes of MANY."

What risk-taking, grass-roots activist/leader hasn't done that? You think even the best and most famous activists weren't derided and mocked along the way? It's not an easy road to take, otherwise a lot more people would be doing it. But it's truly sad to see someone supposedly on the same side as Cindy second-guessing, deriding, and mocking her every decision without taking any of the risks she's taken, or having suffered the loss she's suffered. It's one thing to disgree with her tactics, it's another to be hateful about it.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:37 AM
Response to Reply #110
144. Well put your food where your mouth is
or rather is not and show us how a real hunger strike is done.. Do it for my Son who fights...
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:08 AM
Response to Reply #144
156. why would i do that...?
especially for some war-mongering idiot who CHOSE to join the military...?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #156
159. Just as I thought
you are doing nothing for the troops, cause you hate the troops.. Not all of these soldiers are war-mongerers... What does that say for you who wants to stay in Iraq???

Are you one of the war-mongering Idiots?????
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:23 AM
Response to Reply #159
164. the troops are there by their own choice.
we have a VOLUNTEER army- NOBODY was ever forced to sign up- if there weren't soldiers, there wouldn't be wars- so YES...ALL of the people who sign-up are war-mongering fools who get exactly what they deserve.
and since they went in and destroyed the already limited infrastructure in iraq, and disbanded the military- it's their responsibility to repair what they have broken- no matter HOW MANY american lives it takes- it's OUR country's R-E-S-P-O-N-S-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y, no matter how many people disagree or don't like that inconvenient FACT.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #164
166. Don't spell out the word responsibility
when you have 0 meaning of the word....
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:29 AM
Response to Reply #166
168. the people who feel we have no responsibility to the people of Iraq...
Edited on Sun Jul-02-06 09:29 AM by QuestionAll
are the idiots who don't understand what R-E-S-P-O-N-S-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y really is.

it's sad, really...
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:34 AM
Response to Reply #168
175. This administration is responsible, but I have
Edited on Sun Jul-02-06 10:19 AM by dogday
yet to see you post that,, I wonder why that is... You would rather blame the soldiers than the Administration.... You don't know anything really about this war and why we are there and how long they plan on us being there...
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:49 AM
Response to Reply #175
189. the administration of OUR country.
like it or not- it's OUR responsibility, since it's the admimistration of OUR country.

which you are free to leave anytime you no longer want to be a part of it.
and you're free to work for change, if that's what you want-

but we ultimatly asre responsible, as a nation, for the actions of our government- even if we don'ty agree with them, or didn't vote for them...

that's how it's supposed to work in this country.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:53 AM
Response to Reply #189
191. What a load of crappola
This congress had given this President more authority than should be allowed...


What Sheehan and the other are doing is to effect change, yet you bitch about it... Make up your mind

They are trying to do something, you do nothing....
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:35 AM
Response to Reply #15
81. I agree with you-- I have IMMENSE respect for hunger strikes...
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 11:35 AM by mike_c
Hunger strikes are one of the most powerful protests on earth, IMO, but only if the strikers are truly committed to dying rather than living under the conditions they're striking about. Otherwise it's just a publicity stunt. I'm glad for any publicity the anti-war movement gets, but using hunger strikes for publicity demeans the deaths and the suffering of those who really meant it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #15
86. Read the links
It's more than a couple days. I also think sitting in front of your computer screen calling what Cindy and Code Pink are doing "an insult" is FAR more insulting than their hunger strike. :eyes:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #86
109. when they start dying for their cause, it'll mean something.
just as it has for REAL & LEGITIMATE hunger strikers throughout history- if cindy and crew are serious enough about this to see it through to the death, if that's what it takes, then FINE.
otherwise, they're just a bunch of pathetic poseurs, demeaning the true value of what TRUE hunger strikers have done in the past.

wht they're doing is a publicity stunt NOT a hunger strike- educate yourself on the difference.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 10:37 PM
Response to Reply #109
121. Sounds like you are the one who needs to educate yourself
Cindy lost her son and has directed every bit of energy she has to work at ending this war. Her life stopped and completely changed direction when her son died. I find a great deal to admire in her work. She is roundly criticized by the RW as well as a few misguided 'leftists'. Yet she continues to do more than most to protest against this insane war. She has been arrested numerous times, as have been many of the other leaders of the peace community who are joining her in this fast. I call that a noble effort. I am not the least bit concerned with how long her fast lasts.

To read insulting comments here, of all places, is disturbing. She has many supporters here. I am going to assume they outnumber her detractors.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #121
123. cindy sheehan jumped the shark with her stupid t-shirt stunt at the SOTU.
and if she was such a loving mother- she never should have supported her son joining the military in the first place.

btw- you seem to follow her a lot more than many people, so you must know- what plan does cindy support for the defense of the people of iraq when our troops leave?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #123
126. It wasn't a stunt; she wears that t-shirt all the time
Why does Cindy need a plan for the people of Iraq once our troops leave? You should be asking that question of the politicians who make these decisions.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:40 AM
Response to Reply #123
182. BTW.. What's YOUR plan to defend the people of Iraq???
Is it even possible to defend people in the middle of a civil war? Are we defending them currently with our presence or just giving the insurgents a good excuse to cause violence?

I don't have a good plan and I assume you don't either, but I know that staying there isn't working. It isn't working and it is destroying this Country.

Whenever we leave, whether today or in years, Iraq will still have factions that want to fight each other.

We pulled the pin on the Iraq grenade and now we have to hold on forever.

Must Cindy have a "plan" to want peace??

Have a happy Independence Day, if you think your independent.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. Wow, I guess this link would be my response to you...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x5314748

-snip-
"...why do some people feel compelled to piss all over someone's idea because they think it's stupid or won't work...?"

-snip-
"...I don't see why someone who chooses to do nothing would take the time to try to make me feel like a fool for trying."
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. it's fine by me if they want to do a REAL hunger strike-
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 01:36 PM by QuestionAll
as in NOT EATING A DAMN THING until their goal/demands have been met.

lots of brave and committed people have done so in the past- all the way to the death if need be.

but these people are just pathetic poseurs.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #18
40. But what are *YOU* planning to do? Because unless you're planning to do
one better than Cindy and the others and stage a "REAL" hunger strike, you're name-calling rings a bit false to me.

And by the way, plenty of brave and committed people have fasted to bring attention to a cause. They didn't need to actually commit suicide to raise awareness.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. Well, I suppose he could pretend to start a revolution
as long as we're talking about pretend things, instead of the real thing.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #41
45. So basically, if a person wants to do something to affect change, raise
awareness, or spark a debate, anything less that committing suicide is "pretend" and makes them worthy of be called pathetic poseurs? Well, good luck signing people up for your version of protest.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #45
50. Maybe I'd be less flip if I could get even one of my questions answered
What. is. a. rolling. fast?

Why. is. Mr. Gregory. considered. a. legendary. faster? As in, has he fasted for causes, or are you talking about his capacity as a diet expert?
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 04:25 PM
Response to Reply #50
53. You never asked me either of those questions before. And quite honestly I
don't think I could give you a satisfactory response, no am I going to pretend. But what I do know is that I wouldn't be so quick to judge people on our side for trying to accomplish something, even if I didn't fully understand it. I think the onus may be on you to research the answers to your questions before you start criticizing.
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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #50
128. It's a three syllable phrase for 'diet'
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 11:15 PM by cigsandcoffee
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #40
42. doing "anything" isn't necessarily better than doing nothing-
especially when it's something that gives the other side something to justifiably mock for it's ignorance.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. Oh for cliff's sake. The "other side" will make up shit either way.
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 03:24 PM by grace0418
I don't think this is a justifiable reason to mock them, but it wouldn't stop the other side either way. And anyway, if it does start a debate, doesn't that raise awareness? And isn't raising awareness the point?

Look, you can disagree all you want, no one is stopping you. But why does your disagreement have to include such bile for people ON OUR SIDE? Who are doing good work? Whether or not you agree with their methods hardly makes them worthy of such vitriol.

edited to add: Who needs the other side to mock Cindy when we have so many here on DU willing to step in at the drop of a hat?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #44
49. somebody has to add balance-
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 03:57 PM by QuestionAll
to those people here who seem to think that the sun rises and sets out of cindy's ass.

pretend stunts don't do anything to raise awareness of anything- it just gives the participants a reason to pat themselves on the back...and everyone else something to mock for it's half-heartedness.

get back to me when cindy's into her third FULL week of her complete hunger strike.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #49
51. Believe me, the right-wing fuckers offer plenty of "balance"
to those of us who think Cindy is an incredibly brave lady who's done more to shift the tide than most people here on DU sitting around bitching about her. Maybe you can save your negativity for someone a little more deserving.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #51
54. um...okay...
:eyes:

cindy jumped the shark at the SOTU.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:15 AM
Response to Reply #54
136. Apparently you can't save your negativity for someone
more deserving. That's too bad. There are so many other evil, horrible people out there deserving of your angry words. If you'd rather sit here and attack someone on our side rather that focusing your efforts on the real problem, that's a shame. You talk about Cindy giving the other side a reason to mock us. I think the other side gets far more ammunition from watching folks on *our* side harping on the efforts of people like Cindy. But, by all means, keep up the good work.

:eyes: back atcha
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #49
85. And what are you doing to end the war?
To make the public aware of what a lie this war is... I admire the hell of Cindy, I don't think the sun comes out of her ass as you say... My Son serves in this war and I appreciate anything anyone does to bring attention to the cause of ending it.....


What are you doing to help end this war? :shrug:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #85
107. i voted democratic.
personally, i don't think the troops should come home just yet- we broke it, we bought it, and it's now our responsibility to fix it.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #107
112. Who asked you?
I really could not care what your opinion is about the war...

Just like I thought, you just run your mouth off about the works of others...



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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #112
115. who cares what you think?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:32 AM
Response to Reply #115
141. I have read your half-assed opinions
Edited on Sun Jul-02-06 08:39 AM by dogday
you can read mine... So intent on saying this is a shame, go on a hunger strike yourself and show us how the big boys do it... You are oh so knowledgeable and yet put your money literally where your mouth is or shut up....
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:05 AM
Response to Reply #141
152. i don't think the troops should just be brought home-
without something being done to insure the protection of the innocent people of iraq- WE destroyed their infratstructre and disbanded their military- it's OUR responsibility to fix it- WE broke it- WE bought it.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:06 AM
Response to Reply #152
154. Then enlist and go help them
with the occupation..
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:34 AM
Response to Reply #154
174. i'm too old, and i'm disabled.
but the way things are going that might change- they've already got the enlistment age up to 42.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #174
178. Don't let that stop you
do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars....
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #112
117. You did
see post #85

:eyes:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #117
139. Voting Democratic is not a way to
end this war and it's answer was a cop-out... That's what you get with someone who has all mouth and no moves....
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:07 AM
Response to Reply #139
155. having common sense is much better than making stupid moves...
klike an ignorant charade of a "hunger strike" that will just inspire derision for the people doing the half-assed job of carrying it out.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:10 AM
Response to Reply #155
157. Doing something is better than doing nothing
which all you do is criticize others with a plan to help... Your plan consists of sitting on your ass and bitching... Get over it and help the troops come home.. Oh that's right you don't want them home!!!!
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #157
177. not when it's a stupid and sensless display-
of people standing around patting themselves on the back.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:36 AM
Response to Reply #177
179. That is not what it is,
Edited on Sun Jul-02-06 09:38 AM by dogday
that is your interpretation.. Guess they said that about her camping in the gutter at the ranch... Look how that turned out... Negative much?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:41 AM
Response to Reply #179
183. "look how that turned out..."
okay- fill me in- what did her camping in the gutter actually accomplish?

what concrete changes in our national policy were brought about directly as a result of camp casey?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:46 AM
Response to Reply #183
187. National opinion
Edited on Sun Jul-02-06 09:46 AM by dogday
made a dramatic shift.. She made people aware of this war and that it was based on lies... That is the absolute truth...

National opinion shapes national policy....
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #183
200. You honestly don't know?
12,000 people showed up in Crawford last August. Yet you ask what her camping (in a ditch, not a gutter) accomplished? :crazy:


Read up on the movement she created and get back to us. It appears you have plenty of time to do so.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #107
140. Just as I figured you
sit on your ass and open mouth and insert foot...
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #140
163. it's a free country-
and everyone has a right to have and express their own opinions.

even me.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:29 AM
Response to Reply #163
169. Yes, that is what my Son fights for
or believes he fights for.... Your fight to put him down and Cindy Sheehan, who has done more to change the attitude of war in this country than anything else....

Thanks a whole hell of a lot friend.....
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:31 AM
Response to Reply #169
170. if that's what your son honestly believes-
then somebody didn't teach him very well about the reality of life.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #170
173. I taught him to stand up and protect others
You on the other hand will never get it.. To have to say that about my child... I sure hope you haven't spawned anything, you are evil...
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:38 AM
Response to Reply #173
181. then why don't you want him to stand and protect the people of Iraq-
that the army he volunteered for illegally invaded and disbanded the military?

it seems that you would want your son to live up to his responsibility...or is all that you say just so much talk?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:43 AM
Response to Reply #181
184. The Army did not do that,, Get that straight... You act like
Edited on Sun Jul-02-06 09:45 AM by dogday
these soldiers had any input into this mess. Our Government, Your President is responsible for all of it... He has been living up to his responsibility, you have not... Yours is to support everything you can to end the effort... The Iraqis want us out of there..


He has been in Iraq since November, so I would say he is doing just that....

ON EDIT: you should thank your lucky stars that we have a military... What would happen to us if we were really invaded... Bet you would change your freaking tune then...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #163
176. And we have the right to disagree with your opinions
which become more and more revolting with each post.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #176
185. you certainly do.
Edited on Sun Jul-02-06 09:49 AM by QuestionAll
and i wouldn't want to deprive anyone of the right to frely express their opinions- something which isn't true of a lot of people who post here- who would seem to prefer some type of single-sided "discussion"- kinda like they have in north korea.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #185
188. You are entitled to your opinion
that fact that you have made it a mandate on this post is another matter....
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:51 AM
Response to Reply #188
190. a "mandate"...?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

you seem to put a lot of authority in my opinions-

i guess i should be thanking you for the flattery....
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #190
193. I put ZERO authority in your opinions, it is the
constant expressing of the same one over and over that I find to be a mandate.


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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #193
197. you should invest in a dictionary.
nt
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 10:32 AM
Response to Reply #197
202. Definition of Mandate
mandate —n. 1 official command or instruction. 2 authority given by electors to a government, trade union, etc. 3 authority to act for another. —v. (-ting) instruct (a delegate) how to act or vote.

I would say you fall under the how to act or vote... You are trying very hard to say that Cindy should fast or starve herself in a certain way.... And you post it every change you get....


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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #163
207. There's a difference between disagreeing and disrespect.
When you immediately resorted to name-calling ("pathetic poseur" was the term I believe you used) you crossed that line IMHO. Especially since you were so quick to chastise Cindy for being disrespectful by wearing a t-shirt to the SOTU.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #49
89. IT IS NOT A PRETEND EVENT
Do you actually ever read links or do you just come on here to take a quick look and then criticize? Sheesh.

I guess we won't be seeing YOU in Crawford next month.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #89
106. so they're going on a total and complete hunger strike until the war ends?
oir are they just going to pretend for a couple of days?

btw- the last pictures i saw of cindy, a hunger strike wouldn't be the worst idea for her anyway...:evilgrin:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #106
119. Her plans are for a hunger strike through August.
Nice dig, BTW.

Tell me, what are YOU doing? How many of your kids have died in Iraq?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #119
122. continuous- through august- NO food on her part..?
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 10:44 PM by QuestionAll
or is it some kind of "rolling fast?" whatever the hell that is- if people add qualifiers- it usually means that it isn't the real thing.

and- in answer to your question- i wouldn't be dumb enough to let my children join the military. you can't have wars without soldiers.

i'm not doing anything- i never supported the war, but now that we've invaded a soveriegn nation, ousted their leadership, disbanded their military and savaged their infrastructure- it's our responsibility to put it back right- we broke it we bought it.
i DO NOT support bringing troops home until the problems have been addressed...and until there are UN peacekeepers to take the place of the u.s. troops- we HAVE to stay.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #122
125. So you support the occupation of Iraq
No surprise there.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:12 AM
Response to Reply #125
160. we broke it we bought it.
before we can just leave, we have to provide for the defense of the country that we illegally invaded and disbanded the military.

it's no surprise to me that so many americans are so selfish and self-centered about this issue as they are with so many other things.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #160
194. There is a lot of selfishness right here in this thread.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #122
129. What's this "we" crap?
When are YOU going???

Poseur! :grr:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:45 AM
Response to Reply #129
147. Amen Sister
and another Amen...
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:14 AM
Response to Reply #129
161. i couldn't go-
i'm too old and disabled.

that's what we have a VOLUNTEER military for.
let the people that signed up for the job DO the job.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #122
145. You won't be dumb enough???
I guess Me and Binka and some other Moms on this board should set you straight... You don't get a choice when your child turns 18, uless of course you still plan to be breast-feeding yours when they are that age....

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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:16 AM
Response to Reply #145
162. if people raised their children right-
they wouldn't have to worry about them making stupid choices like volunteering for the military.

without soldiers- there wouldn't be wars.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:23 AM
Response to Reply #162
165. And without idiots
Edited on Sun Jul-02-06 09:23 AM by dogday
there wouldn't be special schools...


Raising one's child to love his country and take responsibility for one's actions is pretty bad..


You wouldn't know A thing about any of it since you lack the social skills to even take the responsibility in the first place....
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #165
167. "...take responsibility for one's action's"
i'm all for taking responsibility for our actions-

we ILLEGALLY invaded another sovereign nation and disbanded the military...now it's our RESPONSIBILITY to make amends for our ACTIONS and FIX what we broke.

why do so many people here want to set a lesson of national irresponsibility for our nations youth???
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #167
172. What the hell do you think they have
been doing over there all these years? How can they make amends with Bush & Co at the helm deterring any of the efforts... You don't know much about this war do you? This is supposed to be a permanent situation from the Administration's point of view.... They intended on breaking it...

It is our soldiers who have been paying the price for their sloppy politics and it is time we bring them home.. This will never be settled, don't you understand that????
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #42
87. I get you -- like Saddam's 1-meal hunger strike. But IMO it's also about
keeping the MSM's very short attention span focused on the issue. I agree that hopefully, they'll at least go 24 hours without eating, so it's able to withstand criticism.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #87
90. READ THE LINKS
Go to the Code Pink website. It is more than a day's fast. Sheesh.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-03-06 09:00 AM
Response to Reply #90
212. read the information here
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #42
204. The other side can kiss our asses
we know whatever is done, they plan a swiftboat action against us.. Kind of like what you are doing to Cindy, ya know :shrug:
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Response to Reply #13
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #57
65. a charade of a hunger strike is an insult.
plenty of people have performed REAL hunger strikes for their causes- even to the death.
why aren't cindy and her crew prepared to do the same? aren't they REALLY committed to peace and bringing the troops home?

a half-assed attempt at a phony hunger strike shows EXACTLY what their actual level of commitment is.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #65
88. The only insult I see is you insulting
someone for even trying to do something to end this war...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #88
92. Amen!
Than you for speaking out. This is so insulting I can't even believe it.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #92
104. the real insult is comparing this charade to gandhi...
which a lot of people seem to be doing.

:eyes:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #104
118. Actually the real insult is criticizing this action
while doing nothing - other than criticizing.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #118
124. whatever...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

just doing "anything" isn't necessarily better than doing "nothing"...especially when the anything includes something as inane and ridiculous as a pretend hunger strike, which just opens up your cause to some well-deserved ridicule.

besides- just shouting "bring the troops home" without having a solid plan in place to protect the people of iraq- seeing as we disbanded their military- is just plain ignorant, and it isn't going to happen. and it shouldn't.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:35 AM
Response to Reply #124
142. It is not called whatever
Edited on Sun Jul-02-06 08:49 AM by dogday
It is called rudeness with a dash of flaming.. Why don't you go and fuck with some of the Republican's causes instead of members of your own party.. That is to say if this is really your party...
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #142
148. um...it's called a discussion forum....
not everyone has the same ideas and views on every aspect of every issue.
if you want homogenous group-think, maybe north korea would be a better place for you to live...
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:05 AM
Response to Reply #148
153. You would know
You seem to be the one going around on this forum trying to slam people for their efforts not me...
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #104
146. Ghandi is dead, get over it
the living are who we are trying to save....
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:02 AM
Response to Reply #146
149. by dsemeaning REAL heroes...?
good plan...:eyes:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:05 AM
Response to Reply #149
151. By trying to get the real
lives ones home... Ghandi is what he is, these guys are alive... Your logic makes zero sense...
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #88
103. a fake hunger strike does NOTHING to end any war.
if she/they have so much commitment, it would be just as easy for them to perform a REAL hunger strike.

they just don't care that much.
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Brian Stevens Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #65
102. Sadly that is the problem.
There should be more action and less talk
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RangerSmith Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:17 AM
Response to Reply #65
138. I have to agree...
Edited on Sun Jul-02-06 08:21 AM by RangerSmith
this will bring more negative... or maybe humorous... responses than it will positive responses.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:02 AM
Response to Reply #138
150. exactly my point.
nt
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 02:57 AM
Response to Reply #7
70. The last thing Cindy Sheehan is is a poseur!
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 03:06 AM by TheGoldenRule
That's a fairly unkind and insensitive comment given what Cindy and her family have sacrificed for this country. If you can't support how she is protesting this illegal sham of a war, you can at the VERY least support her and not call her names! :(

Edited to add: GO CINDY GO! I support you 100%-you are one of my Heros!

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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #70
105. the let her perform a REAL hunger strike to end the war...
if she REALLY cares do much.

btw- cindy sheehan jumped the shark with her idiotic t-shirt stunt at the sotu speech.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:37 AM
Response to Reply #105
180. So are you saying she has to die to earn your respect?
Would that be a real enough hunger strike? Or could she just get really really sick?

Do you consider Ghandi's hunger strikes real?
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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #70
131. That would be heroine, not hero. NT.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #131
206. I know that. But "Hero" sounds a helluva lot better.
Edited on Sun Jul-02-06 01:29 PM by TheGoldenRule
Thanks for the lesson though. :hi:
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:57 PM
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9. Well that's a misleading headline
So the people in the White House who don't give a crap, are going to finally break because people are starving themselves? More petitions too. I guess they have more to fear than the British Empire.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:00 PM
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10. What's a rolling hunger strike?
?
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Skelington Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. or a "legendary faster" ? Professional hunger strike ringer maybe?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Not exactly conjuring up images of Gandhi, is it.
Sounds like a bit of a cheat, maybe.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #12
28. Only if one
is unfamiliar with Dick Gregory.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #28
33. Or Richard Simmons.
Will they be sweating to the oldies for peace as well?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #33
35. sad n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #35
61. in the extreme
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 06:42 PM by leftchick
:eyes:

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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 09:49 AM
Response to Reply #35
73. It Sure Is
H20 Man.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #33
91. Must be nice to be so judgemental
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 11:54 AM by dogday
I don't care if they all mooned the WH at one time.. Any effort to bring attention to this lie of a war should be praised not judged.... What are you doing to help further the cause? :shrug:

My son serves in this war and take it from me, I am happy to see anything done, I don't care how they do it, or when they do it, or where they do it, just that they do it....

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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-03-06 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #91
211. A mass mooning would be awesome
Hell, I'd show up for that.

And unlike this fasting thing, it would send a clear message, quickly and dramatically.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #33
93. What a revolting and insulting comment
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 10:02 AM
Response to Reply #12
77. Incredibly Sad
Why are you being so incredibly cruel to these people whom are doing way more then just typing from a keyboard?

A Reminder of the original post:

“We’ve marched, held vigils, lobbied Congress, camped out at Bush’s ranch. We’ve even gone to jail. Now it’s time to do more,” says peace mom Cindy Sheehan. “While others are celebrating July 4th with barbeques, we’ll be showing our patriotism by putting our bodies on the line to bring our troops home.”

Hundreds of celebrities, veterans, mothers, and concerned citizens across the country will participate in a rolling fast. Strikers include musicians Willie Nelson and Michael Franti, actors Danny Glover, Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon, Gold Star parents Cindy Sheehan and Fernando Suarez, legendary faster and comedian Dick Gregory, environmental activist Diane Wilson, Iraq war veteran Geoffrey Millard and Gulf War vet Michael McPherson, labor leader Dolores Huerta."
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:00 PM
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26. A diet?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #10
111. a sham of a publicity stunt.
nt
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:27 PM
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14. To all those making disparaging remarks about this fast, have
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 01:28 PM by pberq
you ever heard of a guy named Mahatma Gandhi?

He used fasts as an important weapon in his arsenal for nonviolent resistance.


http://www.mkgandhi.org/momgandhi/chap36.htm

Fasting And Satyagraha

Weapon of Satyagraha

FASTING is a potent weapon in the Satyagraha armoury. It cannot be taken by every one. Mere physical capacity to take it is no qualification for it. It is of no use without a living faith in God. It should never be a mechanical effort or a mere limitation. It must come from the depth of one's soul. It is, therefore, always rare. (H, 18-3-1939, p. 56)

There can be no room for selfishness, anger, lack of faith or impatience in a pure fast....Infinite patience, firm resolve, single-mindedness of purpose, perfect calm, and no anger must of necessity be there. But since it is impossible for a person to develop all these qualities all at once, no one who has not devoted himself to following the laws of ahimsa should undertake a Satyagrahi fast. (H, 13-10-1940, p. 322)

Fasting is...fierce and not altogether free from danger. I myself have before condemned fasting when it seemed to me to be wrong or morally unjustified. But to shirk a fast where there is a clear moral indication is a dereliction of duty. Such a fast has to be based on unadulterated truth and ahimsa.
(H, 28-7-1946, p. 235) . . .


(edited for spelling)
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. Gandhi actually went on real hunger strikes.
Satyagraha without personal sacrifice is not satyagraha.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #14
27. But did he call these fasts 'hunger strikes?'
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #14
34. Oh jeez...Sheehan is NOT Gandhi!
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 02:13 PM by IA_Seth
And a "rolling" hunger strike is nothing like the work of the man you have pictured as your avatar.

This is a publicity stunt, not a true hunger strike.

I laud her efforts this far, but this one is silly.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #34
39. I would go on a hunger strike for my kids. I'd do it for now publicity
Cindy Sheehan is like that too. I've actually met her. She's a wonderful caring sweet woman. She's like me. We'd do absolutely anything for our kids. The fact that her child has already been murdered doesn't mean that she wouldn't try to prevent the same crime from happening to other peoples' children.

Therefore, it's not publicity. It's action from the heart. To Fight for what her son lost--his life--and to fight the raging facism of this government and to save others.

Go Cindy Go!

http://www.progressiveu.org/201041-erosion-of-our-freedom-speech-part-2
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #39
47. And I understand that...
I am not saying she isn't doing this from the heart, what I am saying is that this isn't a lot of anything.

I would go on a "rolling hunger strike" for a stranger...it's not like its a true hunger strike.

If it isn't for publicity, what is it for? It's not going to change anything, besides perhaps drawing attention to her cause, is it?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #34
43. Esp. when they talk about putting their bodies on the line
when they're doing nothing of the sort.

Is a rolling fast like a tag team fast or something?
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AllNamesHaveBeenUsed Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #43
195. I thought the same thing...
Will they take turns fasting? I'd like to know what a "rolling fast" was before lending support.
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AllNamesHaveBeenUsed Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 10:27 AM
Response to Reply #195
199. I think I found the answer...
Here is an example of a "rolling fast" from 2000:

http://www.50years.org/cms/ejn/story/213

As part of this 100-day-long chain of prayer and fasting, each person or community stopped eating for at least one day (most took only juice). Some fasted one day a week. Others did a solidarity fast, eating for the entire 100 days a very simple diet of foods that might be available to people living in poverty under the burden of debt. Participants were from every walk of life, of every age, and of different religious traditions.

Pardon me, if I am not impressed... :eyes:
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Brian Stevens Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #14
101. Oh please,
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 04:16 PM by Brian Stevens
and what did Gandhi get for his troubles? He got shot. Fastings and hunger strikes don't work. Just get utterly ignored.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:33 PM
Response to Original message
16. Crush them all, Cindy!
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:46 PM
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20. Legendary faster?
That's the oddest label I've ever read.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. It's accurate.
Dick is a great man.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:51 PM
Response to Original message
22. As a Mom of a soldier who
is in Iraq.. I am so proud of these woman and their efforts to get the message out.


I guess I could stand to lose a few pounds myself and strike in my own way for the effort.....
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #22
46. Apparently that's not good enough for some folks here. Unless you're
willing to starve yourself to death, literally, you are to be considered a pathetic poseur. Nice, huh?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #46
59. Well, unless you're willing to do just that, then don't call it a hunger
strike. It implies more risk that these folks are actually going to take. Don't talk about putting your bodies on the line when you're not going to put them on the line.

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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #59
94. Who are you? What is so special about you
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 11:52 AM by dogday
that your opinion means squat to me... Get off your ass and help the effort, if not, then just shut up... What are you doing to help further the cause except judging people????

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #59
97. And other than insulting Cindy Sheehan, what are YOU doing?
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #46
76. Apparently, Not!
I read a lot here daily from behind. Don't always post but this steamed me enough to log-in.

What is with certain people, is beyond me. Sad, huh! Unbelievable!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #46
95. I guess Ghandi's fasts are now meaningless too
Since he didn't die every time he fasted.

I am just completely stunned by the ignorant comments on this thread.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:59 PM
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25. article on fast from codepink
http://www.codepinkalert.org/article.php?id=1040

<snip>
Join Cindy Sheehan, Dick Gregory Daniel Ellsberg, Col. Ann Wright, Michael Berg & CODEPINK to Launch TROOPS HOME FAST in Washington DC

The fasters will stay in front of the White House every day until August 14th, when they move the hunger strike to Camp Casey in Crawford, Texas. Join the Troops Home Fast at our kick off July 3-4 and ongoing actions in DC!


(more at link . . .)
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:01 PM
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29. I appreciate the effort...but
If a "rolling fast" is what I think it is, it doesn't really seem like it is going to be effective.

A fast works when those who you are protesting against see the seriousness of your commitment by actually putting your health and possibly your body on the line. And it usually only works when the person fasting is beloved. Ghandi of course is the prime example of this.

Not sure what the benefit of this will be.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. I don't know about the affects, but I do know that there is
genuine intent to end the war and for that I applaud them! :applause: :thumbsup:
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PaganPreacher Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #30
71. Skip lunch- that'll show them!
SKIP LUNCH FOR PEACE!

Gods, it makes me teary-eyed just writing it.

:eyes::eyes::eyes:

The Pagan Preacher

I don't turn the other cheek.

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #71
79. ...in front of the WH, with a couple of thousand like minded people
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #71
98. and skip every other meal as well
for a month.

Yet another non link reader. :eyes:
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PaganPreacher Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #98
113. I DID read the link, smarty-pants....
which is why I gave it three eye rolls, beating your single eye roll by 200%!

To quote from the link: "We're inviting people around the world to show their support for this open-ended fast by fasting for at least one day." (http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/06/24/18282599.php)

A fast of one meal, one day, or one month is meaningless. The whole idea of a hunger strike is to say "Give me what I want or I'll starve myself to death", not "Give me what I want, or I'll go an hour (or a day, or a month) without food and then begin eating again."

What's next, holding your breath until you're blue?

The Pagan Preacher,
I don't turn the other cheek.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #113
192. Which part of "at least one day" do you not understand, smartie pants?
This would mean that SOME fasters will fast for a day, but certainly not ALL. Tell you what, when I go to Crawford in August, I will see these fasters in the flesh and I will be more than happy to report here how long their fasts have lasted - it will be about 6 weeks by then. So you can sit there at your keyboard, in air conditioned comfort, and read all about the fasters who have come to 100+ degree Texas in August to show their support for Cindy and for ending this war.

If you are not fasting for even one day, then you are making a fool of yourself by criticizing those who are.

Maybe some of these fasters will be very ill or even dead by August. But somehow I doubt even that will impress the keyboard warriors here who criticize them. sheesh

I honestly have more respect now for the freepers who showed up in Texas to speak out against Cindy than for anyone here who sits behind a computer typing disparaging comments about her work.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:05 PM
Response to Original message
31. Great.
Dick Gregory is a great American. It's sad to see that even among DUers, there appears to be a significant lack of awareness of who he is. Dick has been serving as a conscience of the United States since the old days, when he was good friends with both Malcolm and Martin.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. I know who he is. But the kind of fasting he does is diet related,
isn't it?

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #36
55. I do not think
you have a clue who he is.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #36
56. Some ...
http://www.dickgregory.com/dick/aboutdick.html

A Tidbit About Mr. Gregory

Comedian, civil rights activist, nutritionist; born in St. Louis, Mo. Known for his ground-breaking
use of socially conscious racial humor, Gregory overcame his origins in extreme poverty to become
the first African-American comedian to perform for white audiences.

After attending Southern Illinois University on an athletic scholarship and serving in the U.S.
Army (1953--56), he rose to national prominence at the Chicago Playboy Club (1961). Throughout
the 1960s his fame as a civil rights activist and nightclub performer made his name synonymous
with progressive social and political causes.

He ran in Chicago's mayoral race (1966) and for the U.S. presidency (1968) to publicize human
rights issues. Embracing vegetarianism through his commitment to nonviolence, he became a
radical nutritionist and nutritional proselytizer and founded Dick Gregory Health Enterprises
(1984).

Famous for using fasts and marathons as activist tools, his many popular records and writings.
An Autobiography (1964, 1970).
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #36
99. You really ought to walk away now
Go read up on Dick Gregory - a truly legendary political activist - and get back to us.

Oh but he, like Ghandi, didn't die every time he fasted, so maybe he isn't a good enough activist for you.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:46 PM
Response to Original message
37. What's the point of a fast that isn't a hunger strike???
nt
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #37
58. and how are they "putting their bodies on the line" if it's not?
And no one can tell me what the hell a "rolling" fast is.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 03:30 PM
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48. I've always been puzzled by hunger strikes.
My first thought, when hearing someone is on a "hunger strike," is . . . so what? Unless they really plan on fasting to the death and dropping like flies in front of the White House, I don't think it will have much of an impact. What happened to events like the March on Washington to end the Vietnam war? Now that was impact.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 04:23 PM
Response to Original message
52. July 4th -- Peace Is Patriotic!
July 4th -- Peace Is Patriotic!


http://www.unitedforpeace.org/

http://www.troopshomefast.org/

If you don't stomp and shout, who will? :shrug:

:kick: and recommended!

Welcome to DU! :patriot:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 06:37 PM
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60. excellent!
thank you for the link and welcome to DU!

:hi:
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 10:07 PM
Response to Original message
62. If You Hear Drums...
That's from the Religious Freedom Rally that's being held two blocks away, in Farragut Square. Please stop by and say hello!

http://www.witchvox.com/

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Buxtehude Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 10:22 PM
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63. K&R
okay 1 more for 20.
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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:10 PM
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66. Thank You--K*R for sure!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:52 PM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 02:41 AM
Response to Reply #67
69. I'm joining CodePink here in San Francisco in a related effort.
Was very happy to meet a few of the organizers this evening.

Go Cindy, Medea, and Go CodePink!

:kick:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #69
100. Good for you!!
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 12:01 PM by proud2Blib
And I second all those "Go's"!!

:yourock:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #67
80. Right on!!!!!
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 10:25 AM by Breeze54
:woohoo: :woohoo:

Well said!!! :thumbsup: and a hardy Saturday morning :kick:

;)
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 09:54 AM
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74. I Applaud all of your Efforts for at Least Doing Something!
Sure beats sitting on our butts keyboard-complaining.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:53 AM
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96. I applaud your post for saying it so simply...
Get off your asses and stop judging others and help further cause to end this lie of a war....
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 05:43 PM
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108. I heard about it but only on AAR
You know with the way any protestors have been treated I am really concerned . I hope they get the results they want to achieve but I certainly don't trust this government or their thugs the least bit .

So far Bush has kept all protestors far away in a closed group because he is an insecure freak who is afraid to hear the hate that he truely deserves . So much for freedom of speech .
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Freedom_Aflaim Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 08:51 PM
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116. Whats a "rolling fast" ??
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 08:55 PM by Freedom_Aflaim
If its what I think it is, I think I did one of those last week accidently.



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AllNamesHaveBeenUsed Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 10:32 AM
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201. Here is an example of a "rolling fast" from 2000
Edited on Sun Jul-02-06 10:43 AM by AllNamesHaveBeenUsed
http://www.50years.org/cms/ejn/story/213

As part of this 100-day-long chain of prayer and fasting, each person or community stopped eating for at least one day (most took only juice). Some fasted one day a week. Others did a solidarity fast, eating for the entire 100 days a very simple diet of foods that might be available to people living in poverty under the burden of debt. Participants were from every walk of life, of every age, and of different religious traditions.

Heck, I've been "fasting" for years. :eyes:

Edit to add:

It is a "tag-team" event. From: http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=3295

You can fast as an individual, or organize a rolling fast (each one taking one day) in a public place such as a Congressional office, a recruiting station, a federal building or a religious institution.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 11:30 PM
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130. "I'm just a shrimper whose gonna stop eatin' to stop the war!"
An interview with Diane Wilson by Medea Benjamin
http://www.codepinkalert.org//article.php?id=1015

Diane Wilson, a fourth-generation shrimper from Texas and mother of five, has become
legendary for her struggles to stop chemical companies from dumping devastating toxins
into the Gulf Coast, as chronicled in her new book:

"An Unreasonable Woman: A True Story of Shrimpers, Politicos, Polluters and the Fight for Seadrift, Texas."


Diane, a founding member of CODEPINK, announced at the Mother's Day peace vigil
in Washington DC on May 14 that she was going on a hunger strike to bring the troops
home from Iraq and invited others to join her.
The Troops Home Fast, which will begin
on July 4, has already attracted hundreds of supporters.



Diane Wilson - a founding member of CODEPINK

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This interview, conducted by CODEPINK co-founder Medea Benjamin,
explains Diane's reason for calling for this fast and what she hopes to accomplish.


We were in Iraq with a CODEPINK delegation before the war began.
How did your experience with the Iraqi people affect you?


I'll never forgot my time in Iraq. People were so friendly, so polite, even when
they knew our country was fixing to invade their country. We'd wander around Baghdad
day and night, and whenever I'd get lost, a child or a man would always offer to bring
me straight home. Now it's too dangerous to even go there. That's what this war did.

I can't even imagine what life is like for Iraqis today, with death and violence all
around them. It breaks my heart to think that those children we met are dying.
It truly does.


Snip-->

Q. - You've done several hunger strikes before. What has your experience been?

I learned in my struggles against the chemical companies that a hunger strike
can be a very powerful action. I did a two-week fast against Formosa Plastics to
get the EPA to do an environmental impact study, and sure enough, EPA agreed to do it.
The longest hunger strike I did was 31 days. That was 1998 and I was trying to get
Dupont to recycle its waste water. I started it alone, and then others joined in,
and we eventually won. I did a 29-day-fast to support the people of Bhopal.
We had support that time from CODEPINK women, and over 1,000 people joined the fast
in 8 countries. The Indian government was going to let Union Carbide off the hook,
and thanks to the fast, they changed their policy.


Q - How long will you go on this fast?

My goal is to bring the troops home, to stop killing the Iraqi people.
I don't know how long I can fast, but I'm making this an open-ended fast.
I plan to take this as far as I've ever taken anything in my 58 years.
I think that everything in my life has led me to this point.
I fear our future is at stake, and I'm ready to make a major sacrifice.


Q - Are you fasting with only water, or will you drink other liquids?

I'm hard line; I'm doing a water-only fast. Others who are joining plan to do juice
or no-solid-food fasts. A lot of people have families to take care of and work obligations
or busy travel schedules. For those people, a liquid fast makes more sense.
They can drink fruit juices, or anything that's liquid--just no solid food.
People can make their choice about how to fast-whether water only or a liquid fast.


Q - Some people make a distinction between a fast, which is more religious,
and a hunger strike, which is more political. Is this a hunger strike or a fast?


I'm a fisherwoman, a shrimper. I battle with fish, not with words. I don't get into
that intellectual stuff battling with worlds. I don't really care what you call it;
I'm just gonna stop eatin'. I'm just a shrimper whose gonna stop eatin' to stop the war.
<--Snip

MORE AT LINK....... http://www.codepinkalert.org//article.php?id=1015

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 10:34 AM
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203. Diane has participated in many fasts
But since she has not died yet, I guess some posters on this thread think she is just staging publicity stunts.

Thanks for this info. Diane is one of my heroes. Meeting her in April at Camp Casey was a highlight of my life.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 07:12 AM
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133. Sorry - I just don't see the connection -
- between a 24 hr rolling hunger strike and bringing our boys home. My own 14 yr old son does a 30 hour fast annually (he's done it for 3 years at age 12, 13 & 14) to bring awareness to the plight of the homeless and the truly hungry. He collects canned goods for the local homeless shelter during the 30 hours that he is fasting. There is an obvious connection between a 30 hr fast and the plight of the hungry. I just don't see a connection in this case.

Seems to me if my 14 year old pizza-loving son can fast for 30 hours that this should be more than a 24 hour rolling event to really have any impact.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 07:19 AM
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:34 PM
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210. The OP only gives half the story. It's not just that, and though some
are only doing the rolling thing, some have committed to long term.

One of the founders of Code Pink has gone a month before without eating, only drinking water. I imagine Mr. Gregory has done the same, though I haven't looked him up yet. Cindy has committed to being a "long-termer" aka hunger striker as well. There are the names of several others at the link, but you have to look around a bit.

I said the same as you a couple of days ago, and felt like a horse's pattottie when I read the link and realized it was a bit more than the OP was indicating. I will grant you, it sounds pretty lightweight if all you read is the OP. But go to the links and see for yourself. It looks like it's a bit more than a 24-hour mini fast symbolic thing, at least for several of the participants.

I couldn't do 30 days or more. Hey, I'd be skinny, and that would be a plus, but no, I need to keep the household running. So I'll try to do the 24-hour fast in solidarity for those who are going to do more.

But make no mistake, it appears that there are those who WILL be doing, and have done, more than a "rolling" fast.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:16 AM
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137. This is a language problem. They should call it a fast,
instead of a hunger strike. I'm not critizing. I think it's a great idea. But expect the RW to make a big deal when they don't die for their beliefs.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:27 PM
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209. But it looks like, according to the links as least, that some really are
going on a hunger strike. Mrs. Code Pink, for one. And Cindy as well, it seems. They are the "long range" fasters (aka hunger strikers) near as I can tell.

Others may do the "rolling" fast if they like. Commit to at least one day, but more would be great, it says.

I feel kinda bad that I didn't read the link until yesterday. It really does explain things better than the OP alone.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 07:05 PM
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208. I would like to apologize for being a horse's ass upthread
And commit to at least a 24-hour fast.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-03-06 09:04 AM
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213. Takes a big person...
... to admit, they hadn't even followed the links and read about it, before they went off.
Surprised to read you will be fasting. Good luck!
:thumbsup:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-03-06 09:21 AM
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214. I would be honored to join you
and ask any DU members who would like to participate, to do so... I am very proud of you for posting this... It is hard to admit when we make mistakes, and it takes a heck of a person to come out and do it publicly....


Here's to you

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