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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 12:11 PM
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Why can't we leave Iraq now? We aren't protecting any Iraqis.
It's absurd to keep our troops in harm's way on the pretense of securing the country when the country isn't secure and our soldiers are committing atrocities themselves.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 12:18 PM
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That's not why we are there, the pretense is falling apart.
Atrocities have been commited for the last 3 yrs there, now getting more publicity which is good. Difficult to deal with since even I would prefer to keep my beautiful mind happy happy happy, but good since it may help bring an end to it. Keep asking this question, keep talking with people outside DU, don't let the people who have died or been injured (physically, emotionally, spiritually) have done so in vain.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 12:18 PM
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1. There Is, Ma'am
No particular reason not to commence withdrawl now.

It is quite certain the immediate result of our withdrawl will be a great increase in violence in Iraq, as the Shia militias will have to take over the main force duties in the country's civil war that the Shia leadership now relies on ther U.S. to provide. They are capable of doing this, but will do so in a much blunter manner, to put it mildly.

The U.S. will certainly lose prestige and embolden enemies by withdrawing, but it is doing that daily by the course of the occupation already, and as withdrawl is certain to come in time, and the cost of it in these items certain then to be paid, it is wiser to stop the additional daily accrual, and so minimize the total damage that will be suffered.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 12:20 PM
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3. Ha ha.
As if the "great increase in violence in Iraq" won't still happen when we pull out later.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 12:31 PM
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4. Whatever Point You Are Attempting, Sir, Regretably Escapes Me
There will certainly be an increase in violence in Iraq whenever the occupation force departs: this is one of the sonder arguments for departing sooner rather than later....

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 12:20 PM
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2. Think like a Conservative for a moment
You have never served in the military but you are an ultra patriot for no apparent reason. Our troops have committed zero atrocities, that is just lies from the liberal media. The reason we have to stay in Iraq:

More of our kids must be slaughtered in the desert of Iraq tomorrow so those who were slaughtered yesterday, were not slaughtered in vain.

Conservative logic in a nutshell. So when the last soldier dies in Iraq they all can come home.

And an excuse which is way up on my list - "well, we are already there."
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