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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:26 AM
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TIMEs Cover: Cowboy Diplomacy is OVER....AKA Failed Approach
Its not working...

even after 5 years, Bush has not had any degree of success to speak of.

Poor Bush, it must be discouraging/depressing....No matter what he sez, what he does, where he goes...its all DARK and GLOOMY.

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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:30 AM
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1. God, Is That Good News!
a Time cover can crystallize an entire mood in the country. Once that happens, it has words and a public space, and it will twice as difficult for Bush to pull any jingoistic shit with Iran.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:33 AM
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2. Its to the point, only canned groups clap for him. Real peeps throw pies
and rotten eggs....
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SensibleAmerican Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:43 AM
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4. A Time cover is only one media outlet out of many
Time merely reflects the national mood, it does not create it.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:02 AM
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6. It Reflects *AND* Creates, That's What Media Does Best
If it tries to create something out of nothing, it won't work. But it does more than reflect -- it crystallizes. For thoughts and opinions, silence is death.

And while it's true that Time is only one magazine, it has an iconic status in the magazine industry similar to the NYT among newspapers. There is only one Time Person of the Year.
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SensibleAmerican Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:30 AM
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10. I agree in part
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 03:31 AM by SensibleAmerican
4 years ago, you had Fox News extolling the virtues of Cowboy Diplomacy, even in the face of Time and other media outlets questioning going it alone. They can't do that anymore as the results are against them.

I believe that any media outlet's attempt to crystalize opinion is going to be driven in large part by whether the opponents of that idea can counter it. In this case, they cannot.

However, I don't believe one magazine article is going to change the ability of the government to enact its foreign policy. Bush did not have the option of going it alone in Iran before this magazine cover and regardless of it.

I guess my main thinking is that I don't believe the claims that "liberal media" can influence opinions in a free marketplace of ideas. The only reason liberal media is successful is because their reasoning is accurate and the people know it.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:21 AM
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9. It is a bit more interactive than that!!
Jeeze.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:41 AM
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3. you would think that by now he would be used to it
It must be lonely in bush's* world. If ever he was successful at anything I have never heard of it.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:46 AM
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5. CNN's Jack Cafferty said Bush was "All hat and no cattle".
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:19 AM
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7. As someone said, "Yee haa! is not a foreign policy". Or words to
that effect.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:20 AM
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8. Sorry, but...
..."cowboy diplomacy" won't be over until the (suburban) cowboy and his gang are ridden out of town on a rail.

People need to realize that, no matter how disparaged Bush may be, he's still in charge for the next 2 3/4 years, and still has a Republican majority for the foreseeable future. While that remains the case. and especially while he remains convinced that he's "annointed by God" to lead the country through this time of peril, he's going to keep doing what he's been doing all along. It doesn't matter how many pundits decree that, with his drop in popularity, he's going to have to "moderate" his approach. News flash: It. Ain't. Gonna. Happen. The same "experts" also said that, following the closeness of the 2000 election, Bush would have no choice but to adopt a centrist, bipartisan style of "caretaker" leadership. It didn't happen then, and it won't happen now. For Bush, it's "full speed ahead" until 1/20/09...unless we can take control of Congress this November, and apply the breaks to his insanity.


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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 05:06 AM
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11. We need the House this Fall....
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 05:40 AM
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13. If Bush has his way for another 2 1/2 years the party's over for
the USA forever!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:36 AM
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17. No more Luaus, no more Nascar, No more NFL, No More HOPE.
This Bush Dude has to be reckoned with right Pronto.

Its not Diplomacy he does...its Madness and Fantasy...
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 05:56 AM
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14. Bush insists that history will be kind to him, that it will validate......
his policies and prove him to be a great pResident. :rofl: That shows you how much boosh knows about history. History will cut him to ribbons. History has the luxury of time and being able to dig into all of the secrets and nuances of a situation and believe me, boosh has SOOOO many secrets it's going to take Historians decades to suss out the unvarnished truth. In they end they'll come to one conclusion: bosh was THE WORST President, EVER! No one else will come close and barring the actual appearance of an anti-christ or another Hitler he'll remain in that "top" spot forever. He was a mistake from the beginning and it never got any better from there.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 02:50 AM
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24. Fully concur.... Ya nailed it.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 05:30 AM
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12. Texas Chainsaw DIP-lunacy
Kid Derange-o is...just a "good ole boy" Hitler Wanna-be. Never meanin' no harm. Beats all you ever SAW, been in twouble with his maw, since the day he was born...startin' them wars the only way he knows how...his buushit's just a little more that the law will allow.

George why do you drink?
Why do you blow smoke?
Why do you Fuk up and then read "My Pet Goat"?
Why do you spread death and pain and world wide attrition?
If George gets stoned and kills all day long, it's a family tradition!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 03:08 AM
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25. DeChimp is Awash in Lies and Flip Floppin French Fries
Confused and Concerned for their own, they wander on aimlessly down the Altruistic Path to the point of getting LOST.

Mired in Minutiae, the Bushies return to the Path of ARROGANCE and EXPLOITATION.

They Drink of Domination till Obesity and beyond...
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 05:16 AM
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26. A Wimp, A Chimp, A Corporate Pimp And A Cheerleader, walk...
into the nearest bar and the bartender sez. "I see you're out drinking alone again Mr. pResidunce!"

Wimpy is is wimpy does! He gets the wimpy gene from his daddy and the prehensile face from his mommy and his Nazi Gold from old Prescott Booooooosh and Florida from Jeb. You put all them turds in a sack and shake them up and you're gonna come out with a sack of deep Doo-Doo!

The sucker had to turn out bad.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 06:04 AM
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15. Here is the pic...
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:04 AM
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16. oh brother
it's a whole lot worse than "cowboy diplomacy" ... this is just another effort to isolate Chimpy & Co. and absolve the media of their considerable role in promoting this outlaw administration.

Cowboys are heroes in American mythology. Let's not equate them with neo-Orwellian dictators. Unless you're talking about outlaws of the west.
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STENT Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 11:08 AM
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18. Yes...
...we'd no doubt be much better off letting the editors at Time mag dictate our foreign policy.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:47 PM
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19. We don't need no stinkin' dictators in the USA!
Let the people decide not the deciderer!
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:20 PM
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21. Unbrilliant
In fact, we very well may be better off. Not that i think they're qualified, but i KNOW the current administration is not.
The Professor
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 02:46 AM
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22. I have to tell ya, we would be better off big time. Them Bush guys
have not done America well.

We have had 5 years of DELUSION, Fanatical JINGOISM, and Photo Ops.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:16 PM
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20. His very existence is a failure
God really fucked that one up.


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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 02:48 AM
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23. Bush is meant to be an extreme example of a Rotten INEPT President
Damn....
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