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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:24 PM
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Poll question: How many of your opinions require profanity to be expressed correctly?
Just out of curiousity. What percentage of the ideas, opinions, theories, notions, and what not that you like to share with people require you to use profanity in order to express them.

Bryant
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:26 PM
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1. Is this for that @sshole David Brooks?
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 03:27 PM by sfexpat2000
:)

/s
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:27 PM
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2. Zero ..
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:29 PM
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6. Come to think of it...don't think I've ever seen you cuss
:D
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:32 PM
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12. I just never do.. I always told my sons
that swear words just showed that you were not well read enough to know the proper word for the occasion:)

I'm glad to see you again.. I have a legal question for ya.. let me find the link I posted the other day.. it explains it.. maybe you can give some ideas for this poor lady...brb
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:34 PM
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15. I'm taking off...PM it to me..be glad to help
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:35 PM
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17. link
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:27 PM
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3. I'd say about fucking half of them!
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 03:31 PM by Vinnie From Indy
Depends on the occasion and the audience. Is this the only thing on your mind today?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:28 PM
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4. It can't be quantified.
Sometimes I think profanity can be used to drive a nail in...other times it is gratuitous. Either way, the DU rules permit it in most instances and limit it in others...we all post inside the confines of those parameters.

Do we really need a poll about this?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:29 PM
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7. No we don't.
But then 99% of DU we don't need either. But it's still nice to have around.

Bryant
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MikeH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:51 PM
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23. My thoughts too
I have often heard that a little goes a long way.

If one uses it all the time then it certainly loses any shock value, and I would think any other value. And if every other word is a profanity then it seems that it shows a limited vocabulary, or that one doesn't really know how to express oneself or one's thoughts.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:28 PM
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5. WTF? Who cares!
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 03:32 PM by Juniperx
It's not required but sometimes it feels better.

Have I said yet today that I'm sick and tired of these stupid holier-than-thou threads?

Yes. Yes, I have. And I will damn well say it again as necessary.
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:30 PM
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8. None/Other
I dont require swearing to make my point. But it sure fucking helps. :)
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:31 PM
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9. Just about all of them, these days.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:32 PM
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10. Just another means of marginalizing people
It's always stunning how easily people jump on a superiority bandwagon.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:06 PM
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32. Join me in farting in their general direction.
Pfffft!

:evilgrin:

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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:32 PM
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11. what is this "profanity" of which you speak?
Can you give me some examples?
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:33 PM
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13. I'm in the fucking Army.
Every other fucking word is "Hooah" this, and "Fuck" that. They look at you weird if you don't throw a fucking curseword in each sentence.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:52 PM
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24. When I was in the Navy we used to insert between words.




Fer instance .....


You better be-fucken-lieve it.



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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 05:07 PM
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44. Yep. "Fuck" and "fucking" are both syllables as well as words.
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 05:08 PM by TahitiNut
:rofl: As my DI used to say, "Outfuckingstanding!" and "Infuckingcredible!"
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:34 PM
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14. None of them require profanity of explain what I want to say BUT.........
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 03:35 PM by Minnesota Libra
....profanity sometimes gets the point across quicker and easier.

As for Mann C...her), that is breathing profanity in and of itself.

on edit, neocons/fundies aren't much better especially since they profess Christianity and talk about such violence.


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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:35 PM
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16. To quote Mr. Stipe's excellent Ignoreland:
The information nation took their clues from all the sound-bite gluttons.
Nineteen eighty, eighty-four, eighty-eight, ninety-two too, too.
How to be what you can be, jump jam junking your energies.
How to walk in dignity with throw-up on your shoes

They amplified the autumn, nineteen seventy-nine.
Calculate the capital, up the republic my skinny ass.
TV tells a million lies. The paper's terrified to report
Anything that isn't handed on a presidential spoon,
I'm just profoundly frustrated by all this. So, fuck you, man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ignoreland. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ignoreland.
If they weren't there we would have created them. Maybe, it's true,
But I'm resentful all the same. Someone's got to take the blame.
I know that this is vitriol. No solution, spleen-venting,
But I feel better having screamed. Don't you?
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:36 PM
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18. depends what counts as profanity/obscenity
Almost everything could be expressed with none, but it's so much more fun to use it.
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:38 PM
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19. It depends on the day, today...
Looks pretty fucking bad! Looks like the beginning of fucking WW3.

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:45 PM
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20. I pride myself on my huge vocabulary.
Precise and colorful word choice really comes in handy when expressing oneself.

I would say that in about 5% of my posts, I mentally regress, and resort to profanity.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:49 PM
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21. How many of your opinions require three-syllable adjectives?
The implication that an arbitrary group of slang words are somehow lesser than others and possibly unnecessary is elitist, obnoxious and rude even when framed as a question. The words people tend to refer to as profanity actually do have unique definitions and/or associative connotations, including their being considered to be profanity by some, which make them just as valid as any other word in language. "Feces" does not mean the same thing as "shit."

The classist idea that some language is "lower," or that it is only employed by the ignorant and uneducated, is total fucking hyporcritical bullshit.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:50 PM
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22. Ah. And possibly racist as well, I'd guess?
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:52 PM
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25. It certainly can be. - n/t
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:53 PM
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26. But assuming that you know me and know my motivations
in posting this is something else, I take it?
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:55 PM
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28. You are the one making assumptions, not me.
I wasn't personally attacking you, just the implications of your survey. If that gets your panties in a wad, that's your issue, not mine.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:59 PM
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29. My panties? That's an evocative phrase.
Of course I have a male name so possibly that's intended as a subtle form of insult?

My own feelings are that sometimes people need to use profanity to express themselves - but other times they use profanity because they are lazy and don't care. That's a very classist opinion to have, I know, but I'm pretty well resigned to it.

Bryant
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:05 PM
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31. Again, your issue, not mine.
Having one's panties in a wad is a common expression, used equally towards people of both sexes. Anything else you bring to that, you bring yourself.

Why do people use any words? It's ridiculous to single out profanity as some kind of cop-out, especially when it is no more or less valid a form of expression than any other. So, I call bullshit. Your feelings on profanity use are themselves lazy and classist if you think those are the only reasons profanity is employed, or if you feel that people should choose to express themselves otherwise, so I guess we're in agreement.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:36 AM
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50. It must be nice to be in such a bubble of superiority
Must feel wonderful.

I think it's funny that you would accuse me of being a classist while using sexist language. The reason "panties in a wad" is a good comeback is because it plays on the stereotype that woman are more prone to getting carried away with their emotions. It's sexist plain and simple.

I also have to fault your reading skills. I specifically said that at times profanity is sometimes justified and sometimes a sign of laziness, and you respond with "if you think those aer the only reasons profanity are employed."

Bryant
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:05 PM
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30. I don't appreciate the implications of that. n/t
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:08 PM
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35. The implications of what? That the act of believing certain language...
...is better than other language can be racist? You don't think there are people who think this way?
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:11 PM
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37. What does profanity have to do with race?
That's what I don't get. The question is not about Ebonics, or ESL.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:23 PM
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39. Profanity is an arbitrary classification of slang.
There is no question that different cultures and races employ different slang. Just because someone calls some of those slang words "profanity" doesn't mean they lose their cultural or racial associations, nor is acknowledging these associations somehow racist in itself. However, discriminating against profanity can be racist, if the discrimination is based on the cultural or racial association rather than on the word itself. I still don't see what you find offensive about that.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:36 PM
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42. Well, I think we are framing the issue differently.
You seem to be talking about ALL slang. I thought the question was about typical profanity words, such as fuck, shit, and a handful of other commonly *bleeped* words. (Which I myself occasionally use when I can't think of anything succinct and clever).

The only example that I can think of, that might be a cultural use of profanity, is referring to women as bitches, in the hip-hop community.

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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:42 PM
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43. Profanity is just a subset of all slang.
I didn't claim that all words considered to be profanity have a racial association, I was saying that treating profanity as somehow lesser than other language can be racist in response to a snarky comment from the OP.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:53 PM
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27. More like 1 - 2 %
I use profanity on occasion. But it's so much more effective when used discriminately.
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niccolos_smile Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:07 PM
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33. VERY few..

The only time I feel the need to use an obscenity is if I really want to stress my point on an issue, which is rare.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:08 PM
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34. Every fucking one! Next stupid fucking question....
;-)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:09 PM
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36. I have no fucking idea
what kind of bullshit asshole poll is this?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:16 PM
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38. As I dive into a snack of hummus..
... kalamata olives and Mezzetta Hot Mix (veggies in vinegar and heat) I cannot help thinking, this is the best fucking snack EVER!

Wifey's hummus is the shit - just the right amount of lemon and tahini.

I'll be damned if I interrupt my fucking awesome snack to answer a question like this again!
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:23 PM
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40. I don't *have* to put spice on my chicken.
But it's pretty fucking bland without it.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:26 PM
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41. Fucked if I know.
:evilgrin:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 08:11 PM
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45. As many as I fucking want?
NT!

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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 08:19 PM
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46. When you are describing
horrible things, using four letter words just goes with the territory. To be honest, I think using swears adds to the grit of the situation. It's not something you would use in some kinds of writing, but since we discuss mostly terrible situations and politics, it fits the subject matter.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 08:20 PM
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47. Depends on the subject
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 08:21 PM
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48. blah blah blah... Who cares?
See? I can be offensive without cursing. Feel better?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 08:25 PM
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49. About half
probably
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 09:38 AM
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51. Every goddamned one that relates to Bush!
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