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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 09:58 PM
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G.O.P. Senator Resisting Bush Over Detainees
By KATE ZERNIKE
Published: July 18, 2006

WASHINGTON, July 17 — Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina often plays the contrarian, the conservative Republican willing to poke a stick in the eye of the White House.

Now Mr. Graham is playing an even higher-profile variant of that role, as the Senate’s foremost expert on military law in the midst of the emotional debate over what rights to provide to terror suspects.

A former military lawyer who is also a reserve judge on the Air Force Court of Criminal Appeals, his influence is shaping up to be pivotal in forming the Congressional response to the Supreme Court ruling striking down the White House’s plan for bringing terror detainees to trial.

Mr. Graham advocates using the existing court-martial system as the basis for trying suspects, a position that has drawn fire from many other Republicans. They say it could cripple the government’s ability to protect the nation by giving detainees too many rights and making it harder to use highly classified intelligence against them.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/18/washington/18graham.html?hp&ex=1153195200&en=044baea5f5792f04&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 10:00 PM
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1. Kate Zernike
must be insane. Graham pokes it in alright.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 10:18 PM
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2. Graham votes with the fascists 90+ percent of the time
He's an asshole just like every Republican on the hill. Why are they calling him a "maverick"?

BULLSHIT.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 10:42 PM
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3. See your point, but don't discount his influence on this issue.
His opposition is a wedge on the detainee legal situation.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 10:45 PM
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4. Agreed. We gotta use these Cons whenever we can.
Divide and conquer.

NGU.


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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 10:47 PM
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5. Keep falling for it folks.... Just like DUers fall for...
Edited on Mon Jul-17-06 10:49 PM by BlooInBloo
... "the Specter tough-talk"

Suckers.


EDIT: Democrats should really take what TPM said to heart: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/009059.php - and stop falling for the silly "oh this could change it all!" crap.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 10:48 PM
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6. Oh yes, it's better to divide us with names like "suckers," right?
NGU.


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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 10:51 PM
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8. (shrug) If pointing out repetitive, silly errors is "dividing", then yes.
But notice it's only "dividing" if those making the errors don't care about making errors. Like in the Leopold debacle.

If people actually care about not making errors, it's not dividing.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 10:51 PM
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7. Point to where the poster said "oh this could change it all"...
I'm waiting...

Oh, that's right, the poster said this could be a useful wedge.

Sheesh.

NGU.


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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 11:09 PM
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9. I'm not saying this "could change it all", nor do I believe for
a minute that one comment makes for anything momentous.

It's an interesting comment from a hard core RW'er in a position (committee) of influence...It's been reported in the press. Nothing more nor nothing less.
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