Limbaugh claimed "you need abortions to get" embryonic stem cells

[RamboLiberal]

http://mediamatters.org/items/200607200011

Summary: Rush Limbaugh claimed that "the militant pro-abortion crowd" is "behind" efforts to legalize federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, "because you need abortions to get these ." In fact, embryonic stem cells "are derived from embryos that develop from eggs that have been fertilized in vitro ... and then donated for research purposes with informed consent of the donors."

On the July 19 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio program, Rush Limbaugh claimed that "the militant pro-abortion crowd" is "behind" efforts to legalize federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, "because you need abortions to get these ." In fact, as the National Institutes of Health webpage points out, embryonic stem cells "are derived from embryos that develop from eggs that have been fertilized in vitro -- in an in vitro fertilization clinic -- and then donated for research purposes with informed consent of the donors. They are not derived from eggs fertilized in a woman's body ."

Additionally, Limbaugh claimed that, in light of scientists' belief that embryonic stem cells could be useful in medicine, "we need to re-examine this whole term 'scientist,' " because "science is all about politics, and science has been so wrong about so many things."

During a discussion of President Bush's July 19 veto of a bill authorizing federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, Limbaugh stated that White House senior adviser Karl Rove "got in trouble the other day for telling the truth," when he told the editorial board of The Denver Post that research has shown "far more promise from adult stem cells than from embryonic stem cells." Noting that a July 19 Chicago Tribune article had cited "a dozen" stem cell research scientists calling Rove's statement "inaccurate," Limbaugh stated that "we need to re-examine this whole term 'scientist.' " He complained that "certain things in our culture ... are never questioned" and that "if a scientist says anything ... it's gotta be true" because "scientists have this aura." He further stated that "global warming has become a scientific thing" merely because "nobody can question science." He added: "Science is all about politics, and science has been so wrong about so many things."

Does listening to Limpballs make you a moran or do you have to already be a moran to listen to Limpballs?

[ComerPerro]

1. So how did all those snowflakes get adopted? Were they recycled?

Aborted and then re-inserted

[Vogon_Glory]

10. I Think Most Were Left-Overs From Fertility Treatments

I think that most of the so-called "snowflake" babies were derived from frozen embryos left over from fertility treatments.

The Radical Right made much of these "snowflake" babies and trumpeted efforts to have them adopted. I remember hearing a recent radio program saying that out of over 300,000 candidates, only about 110 or so were actually implanted and brought to term.

What I don't think that a lot of fuzzy-minded not-so-conservative Republicans have figured out yet is if abortion is outlawed, so will many fertility treatments shortly thereafter.

[ComerPerro]

13. Well, that's what I'm saying, but it sounds like Rush

is saying that the only way we get these stem cells is through abortions.

More of the "liberals think everyone should have an abortion" crap.

[Vogon_Glory]

16. The Only Good Thing About Limbaugh's Polemics

The only good thing about King George the Lesser's EIB court jester is that every time he shoots off, Republican credibility takes another hit.

I suspect that GOP stem cell politics are eventually going to prove a boon to the financial success of off-shore medical clinics.

[Democrats_win]

2. Great info. I didn't know they were not fertilized in a woman's body.

[DanCa]

3. Well at least I don't need viagra but seriously

Has this lying douce bag ever seen the inside of a stem cell lab?
Btw I miss the days when you needed a license to practice medicine.

[theoldman]

4. What do you expect from an idiot?

An idiot is one level below a moron. Since his followers have to be less intelligent than their leader, this puts them almost at less than human.

[msongs]

5. scientists are right about viagra nt

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[DanCa]

6. Why do people listen to his lies?

Turn him off Al Franken is much better.

[Vogon_Glory]

7. Miscarriages As A Source of Embryonic Stem Cells?

I'll be the first to admit it--I never was a science major. What I've been wondering lately, though, is whether or not the remains of miscarriages could be processed for stem cells. After all, if the fetus is a biological non-starter, couldn't it be suitable for harvesting?

Of course I've seldom taken Señor Viagra Dominicano's say-so as being worth very much.

[Arkansas Granny]

21. I've never seen this discussed, but I'm going to take a guess.

I think that probably an embryo from a miscarriage would be dead tissue and probably deteriorated to a certain degree.

[Canuckistanian]

8. Thanks for the info, Dr. Limbaugh

I always take OBGYN advice from an unmarried, childless old man.

[AnnieBW]

12. Like the Pope?

:D

[Canuckistanian]

20. Gzactly.

Just like the leader of a celibate caste of all-male dogmatists.

[NC_Nurse]

9. Science is all about politics?

No. asshole, YOU are all about politics! :eyes:

[tabasco]

11. Yep, Limbaugh lies a lot.

Not news to regulars around here.

It is simply amazing that anybody relies on the blowhard for information.

[DanCa]

14. Ah the words of a draft dodging drug addicted sex fiend.

Hey what was that thing about drug offenders serving a maximum sentence again?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

15. Adult stem cells will grow/regenerate kidneys, liver, brain

tissue, retinal tissue and many more. You can grow your own.... you normally have about one per pint of blood... this can be increased exponentially using natural supplements available here in the U.S.

[DanCa]

18. Can I have a link please.

To these facts thank you. There's no reason why we can't do both forms of research. None what so ever stem cell has nothing to do with abortion. www.parkinsonactionnetwork.org

[HysteryDiagnosis]

19. Why certainly.... in fact, you can be totally convinced by 20,

count them, twenty medical professionals who have witnessed organ regeneration, insulin sensitivity restored, and rheumatic conditions blown away. The book is titled, The Healing Power of Eight Sugars, and the link to an article that discusses the production of adult stem cells follows.

This book has a 5 star rating btw.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0973731702/sr=1-1/qid=1153441359/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-5930334-7926427?ie=UTF8&s=books




http://ezinearticles.com/?Stem-Cell-Breakthrough:-Can-You-Now-Make-Your-Own?&id=36423
Over the past few years, stem cells have been getting a lot of attention. What makes them so interesting is their ability to stimulate the production of many types of healthy cells. That means that a single stem cell can turn itself into brain cells, liver cells, skin cells, pancreas cells, and so on.

In February of 2003, an article about stem cells was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA). A team of researchers at Johns Hopkins Medical Center reported, for the first time, that undifferentiated donor stem cells were able to cross the blood brain barrier and morph themselves into neuronal cells.

This was an especially important finding because, of all the cells in the body, neuron cells are the most advanced and complicated. This is significant because it means that if stem cells can morph themselves into brain neurons, then, chances are they can transform themselves into other types of cells too.

In a separate but related area of science, there is a growing body of evidence that a specialized area of nutrition called “glyconutrition” is very likely responsible for causing the body to manufacture its own stem cells from its own bone marrow. This research is being overseen by Dr. Reg McDaniel M.D. at the Fischer Institute.

Until the JAMA article came out, Dr. McDaniel's team were in quite a quandary as to how people with varying neurological disorders such as Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, Children's Cerebral Palsy, Down's Syndrome, and Autism, were all experiencing increases in brain function when glyconutrients and other micronutrients were added to their diets.

After the initial discovery that stem cells stimulated the growth of neuron cells, researchers wanted to know if these newly created neuron cells worked correctly. To do this, they turned their attention to children in comas. One was a boy who had been in a coma for three years. Glyconutrients were added to his feeding tube and within five days his doctor started seeing changes in his brain function.

All this is became even more noteworthy when it was discovered that this wasn't an isolated case. Other cases have been reported in which children have been awakened from long-term comas after receiving glyconutritional supplements introduced through feeding tubes.

Following up on these findings, a group of pediatric neurologists have begun a glyconutrition study on 20 children who are in comas.

In yet another case study, a six-year-old boy had been in a coma for three years. During that time his EEG measurements were virtually flat. Glyconutrients were introduced into his diet and over a six-month period, his EEG activity increased significantly. Here again was a clear connection between the introduction of glyconutrients and restored neurological brain function.

In another study, Sara, a premature infant with fetal alcohol syndrome, who also had heart defects and cerebral palsy at birth, underwent a dramatic turn for the better when glyconutrients were introduced to her regimen. In this case, Sara was born prematurely and the only way to introduce glyconutrients into her little body was to rub a special glyconutritional cream into her skin. This went on until she was well enough to go home from the hospital. After that, her mother regularly added glyconutrients to her formula.

When she was four years old, she was examined by her pediatric specialist. Amazingly, he found no evidence of fetal alcohol syndrome or cerebral palsy. Even better, her little heart had developed normally and no longer required surgery.

One of the interesting aspects of this particular case history is that Sara was photographed when she was born and her face showed the obvious distorted characteristics of a child with severe fetal alcohol syndrome. By the time she was four years old, all of her facial anomalies disappeared. Her IQ also increased from less than 80 to over 100. For a child born with fetal alcohol syndrome, this type of recovery is virtually unprecedented.

Now, while these individual case histories are quite remarkable, they do not in and of themselves constitute scientific proof. However, they have generated a lot of hope and more importantly, have stimulated interest on the part of the medical community to conduct new studies and research in this exciting and fast growing area of nutritional technology.

[DanCa]

26. Check your pm :D It's good trust me. (nt)

[Atman]

17. But he also claims you need Oxy to hold you over till happy hour.

Sometimes he makes Bush look bright.

[wicket]

22. I wonder how many "snowflakes" he has frozen from his Viagra use

:hide:

[Crunchy Frog]

23. What an idiot.

You can't even get embryonic stem cells from aborted embryos. Embryonic stem cells are from before any tissue differentiation occurs. That's why the cell has the potential to become any type of cell in the human body. Almost as soon as implantation occurs, the cells differentiate into 3 different layers and lose that ability.

Sorry to get so technical, but I'm totally sick of RW scientific illiteracy.

[Ilsa]

24. I think all of devotees should line up for medical clinic and let Dr. Rush

treat them for their ailments, since apparently he thinks he knows so much about medicine, science, genetics, reproduction, oh yes, don't forget PHARMACOLOGY!

[AlCzervik]

25. He knows thats bullshit but his ignorant listener base doesn't and

they believe everything he says. The odds of Limbaugh and his boy-toy * actually giving a whit about abortion or 0 and none, it's all hype.

[Nikki Stone 1]

27. Rush has a brain for sin and a body for science

(at least for pharmacology)

:)